[Lnc-business] Token Time - some practical considerations

[Joshua Katz]

It's almost like a board stepping into a connected set of committee
decisions at the last minute, to specify details without having been
involved in the details, doesn't work out well.

Joshua A. Katz


On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 3:22 AM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

>    I already have the token artwork loaded in a virtual shopping cart on
>    the vendor's website, ready to order.  I was holding out for a couple
>    of days only to see if I could luck into a sale price to save us a few
>    bucks.  Now there are several different motion proposals that leave me
>    in a very inconvenient limbo.
>    One proposal would specify that I must include certain things on the
>    tokens, including some specific provision for NOTA.  With the design
>    already sitting in the shopping cart, the tokens contain a large blank
>    in which the delegate writes the name of a candidate.  Dictating
>    anything else will require me to re-design for no good reason,
>    especially since nothing prevents them from writing "NOTA", or the name
>    of a non-candidate, or drawing a picture instead.
>    Some propose that we do petitions instead of tokens, maybe with no
>    restrictions on who is even eligible to sign, with one person able to
>    sign multiple petitions.  Even if we say only delegates can sign, I
>    don't know how we would validate such petitions in a timely fashion.
>    Sadly, even in a party which opposes fraud, we do have delegates who
>    will cheat the system if they think they can get away with it, so some
>    consideration of process integrity is needed.  With tokens, at least we
>    know that only delegates get them, and they are traceable to that
>    delegate if any questions arise.  If the LNC is going to dictate at the
>    last minute that we will use petitions instead, then I shouldn't incur
>    the cost to order the debate tokens at all, only the platform tokens.
>    We are currently 27 days before on-site registration, when the tokens
>    need to be ready.  I don't have the luxury of waiting 10 days (or more
>    if other motions pop up later) to see how this all plays out before I
>    finalize the designs and hit the "order" button.  It takes time to get
>    them printed, time to ship them to me, time for me to stuff them into
>    envelopes, and time to get them shipped to New Orleans.  This is not
>    the only task remaining on my plate to prepare for the convention.
>    Just sayin...
>    -Alicia
>
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   It's almost like a board stepping into a connected set of committee
   decisions at the last minute, to specify details without having been
   involved in the details, doesn't work out well.

   Joshua A. Katz
   On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 3:22 AM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business
   <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

        I already have the token artwork loaded in a virtual shopping
     cart on
        the vendor's website, ready to order.  I was holding out for a
     couple
        of days only to see if I could luck into a sale price to save us
     a few
        bucks.  Now there are several different motion proposals that
     leave me
        in a very inconvenient limbo.
        One proposal would specify that I must include certain things on
     the
        tokens, including some specific provision for NOTA.  With the
     design
        already sitting in the shopping cart, the tokens contain a large
     blank
        in which the delegate writes the name of a candidate.  Dictating
        anything else will require me to re-design for no good reason,
        especially since nothing prevents them from writing "NOTA", or
     the name
        of a non-candidate, or drawing a picture instead.
        Some propose that we do petitions instead of tokens, maybe with
     no
        restrictions on who is even eligible to sign, with one person
     able to
        sign multiple petitions.  Even if we say only delegates can sign,
     I
        don't know how we would validate such petitions in a timely
     fashion.
        Sadly, even in a party which opposes fraud, we do have delegates
     who
        will cheat the system if they think they can get away with it, so
     some
        consideration of process integrity is needed.  With tokens, at
     least we
        know that only delegates get them, and they are traceable to that
        delegate if any questions arise.  If the LNC is going to dictate
     at the
        last minute that we will use petitions instead, then I shouldn't
     incur
        the cost to order the debate tokens at all, only the platform
     tokens.
        We are currently 27 days before on-site registration, when the
     tokens
        need to be ready.  I don't have the luxury of waiting 10 days (or
     more
        if other motions pop up later) to see how this all plays out
     before I
        finalize the designs and hit the "order" button.  It takes time
     to get
        them printed, time to ship them to me, time for me to stuff them
     into
        envelopes, and time to get them shipped to New Orleans.  This is
     not
        the only task remaining on my plate to prepare for the
     convention.
        Just sayin...
        -Alicia

References

   1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org