[Lnc-business] Token Time - some practical considerations

[Tim Hagan]

I won't be co-sponsoring nor voting for any of the proposals. I trust 
the Convention Oversight Committee to take the suggestions and concerns 
expressed along with their knowledge of space availability, schedule, 
logistics, budget, etc. to put on a most excellent convention. We don't 
need to turn this into a 25-member convention oversight committee.

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Tim Hagan
Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee

On 2018-06-03 04:36, Joshua Katz via Lnc-business wrote:
> It's almost like a board stepping into a connected set of committee
>    decisions at the last minute, to specify details without having been
>    involved in the details, doesn't work out well.
> 
>    Joshua A. Katz
>    On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 3:22 AM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business
>    <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> 
>         I already have the token artwork loaded in a virtual shopping
>      cart on
>         the vendor's website, ready to order.  I was holding out for a
>      couple
>         of days only to see if I could luck into a sale price to save 
> us
>      a few
>         bucks.  Now there are several different motion proposals that
>      leave me
>         in a very inconvenient limbo.
>         One proposal would specify that I must include certain things 
> on
>      the
>         tokens, including some specific provision for NOTA.  With the
>      design
>         already sitting in the shopping cart, the tokens contain a 
> large
>      blank
>         in which the delegate writes the name of a candidate.  
> Dictating
>         anything else will require me to re-design for no good reason,
>         especially since nothing prevents them from writing "NOTA", or
>      the name
>         of a non-candidate, or drawing a picture instead.
>         Some propose that we do petitions instead of tokens, maybe with
>      no
>         restrictions on who is even eligible to sign, with one person
>      able to
>         sign multiple petitions.  Even if we say only delegates can 
> sign,
>      I
>         don't know how we would validate such petitions in a timely
>      fashion.
>         Sadly, even in a party which opposes fraud, we do have 
> delegates
>      who
>         will cheat the system if they think they can get away with it, 
> so
>      some
>         consideration of process integrity is needed.  With tokens, at
>      least we
>         know that only delegates get them, and they are traceable to 
> that
>         delegate if any questions arise.  If the LNC is going to 
> dictate
>      at the
>         last minute that we will use petitions instead, then I 
> shouldn't
>      incur
>         the cost to order the debate tokens at all, only the platform
>      tokens.
>         We are currently 27 days before on-site registration, when the
>      tokens
>         need to be ready.  I don't have the luxury of waiting 10 days 
> (or
>      more
>         if other motions pop up later) to see how this all plays out
>      before I
>         finalize the designs and hit the "order" button.  It takes time
>      to get
>         them printed, time to ship them to me, time for me to stuff 
> them
>      into
>         envelopes, and time to get them shipped to New Orleans.  This 
> is
>      not
>         the only task remaining on my plate to prepare for the
>      convention.
>         Just sayin...
>         -Alicia
> 
> References
> 
>    1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org