[Lnc-business] Token Time - some practical considerations

[Elizabeth Van Horn]

Same.  I also trust the COC to figure out the details.

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Elizabeth Van Horn


On 2018-06-03 10:36, Tim Hagan via Lnc-business wrote:
> I won't be co-sponsoring nor voting for any of the proposals. I trust
> the Convention Oversight Committee to take the suggestions and
> concerns expressed along with their knowledge of space availability,
> schedule, logistics, budget, etc. to put on a most excellent
> convention. We don't need to turn this into a 25-member convention
> oversight committee.
> 
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> Tim Hagan
> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
> 
> On 2018-06-03 04:36, Joshua Katz via Lnc-business wrote:
>> It's almost like a board stepping into a connected set of committee
>>    decisions at the last minute, to specify details without having 
>> been
>>    involved in the details, doesn't work out well.
>> 
>>    Joshua A. Katz
>>    On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 3:22 AM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business
>>    <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> 
>>         I already have the token artwork loaded in a virtual shopping
>>      cart on
>>         the vendor's website, ready to order.  I was holding out for a
>>      couple
>>         of days only to see if I could luck into a sale price to save 
>> us
>>      a few
>>         bucks.  Now there are several different motion proposals that
>>      leave me
>>         in a very inconvenient limbo.
>>         One proposal would specify that I must include certain things 
>> on
>>      the
>>         tokens, including some specific provision for NOTA.  With the
>>      design
>>         already sitting in the shopping cart, the tokens contain a 
>> large
>>      blank
>>         in which the delegate writes the name of a candidate.  
>> Dictating
>>         anything else will require me to re-design for no good reason,
>>         especially since nothing prevents them from writing "NOTA", or
>>      the name
>>         of a non-candidate, or drawing a picture instead.
>>         Some propose that we do petitions instead of tokens, maybe 
>> with
>>      no
>>         restrictions on who is even eligible to sign, with one person
>>      able to
>>         sign multiple petitions.  Even if we say only delegates can 
>> sign,
>>      I
>>         don't know how we would validate such petitions in a timely
>>      fashion.
>>         Sadly, even in a party which opposes fraud, we do have 
>> delegates
>>      who
>>         will cheat the system if they think they can get away with it, 
>> so
>>      some
>>         consideration of process integrity is needed.  With tokens, at
>>      least we
>>         know that only delegates get them, and they are traceable to 
>> that
>>         delegate if any questions arise.  If the LNC is going to 
>> dictate
>>      at the
>>         last minute that we will use petitions instead, then I 
>> shouldn't
>>      incur
>>         the cost to order the debate tokens at all, only the platform
>>      tokens.
>>         We are currently 27 days before on-site registration, when the
>>      tokens
>>         need to be ready.  I don't have the luxury of waiting 10 days 
>> (or
>>      more
>>         if other motions pop up later) to see how this all plays out
>>      before I
>>         finalize the designs and hit the "order" button.  It takes 
>> time
>>      to get
>>         them printed, time to ship them to me, time for me to stuff 
>> them
>>      into
>>         envelopes, and time to get them shipped to New Orleans.  This 
>> is
>>      not
>>         the only task remaining on my plate to prepare for the
>>      convention.
>>         Just sayin...
>>         -Alicia
>> 
>> References
>> 
>>    1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org