[Lnc-business] Judicial committee
Elizabeth Van Horn
elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
Thu Jul 5 20:27:44 EDT 2018
Caryn Ann, I was thinking state chairs or people they appoint. Which
could be some of the people you're thinking might be good.
A 50 person committee would be too large (someone from each state
affiliate), but Regions could send one or two people. Eight regions and
two from each, so maybe 16 people. (Or, could be smaller)
They could work on "improving the election scheduling, balloting, and
tabulation process", and report sometime in 2019 to see what
improvements could be made.
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Elizabeth Van Horn
LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
LP Social Media Process Review Committee
Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
http://www.lpcaucus.org/
On 2018-07-05 20:12, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> It needs a much larger and more diverse committee that doesn't have the
> LNC's thumb on it like every other committee. Many many many
> qualified
> people offered, including former LNC people who have been to this
> rodeo.
>
> On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 6:06 PM, joe.bishop-henchman--- via
> Lnc-business
> <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> Good questions. My answers would be that the only way this works
> is
> if everyone feels like they have a seat at the table. Timing wise,
> this gives them time to collect ideas and feedback while giving us
> time to address it if they can't come up with a consensus
> recommendation.
> It's also more than just technology - it's also whether we do
> plurality or IRV or approval, it's whether we do combined ballots
> or
> all separate, it's whether we need three days or four or five.
> There's off-the-shelf electronic voting things we can rent - I've
> done elections with them before - but I think our Party members
> would without buy-in reject them as centralized and potentially
> not
> secure. The solution may just be some new bylaws changes and more
> tellers and computers, and no new technology. I'm not sure.
> JBH
>
> On 2018-07-05 19:56, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote:
>
> Why start a new committee? Shouldn't this fall under the purview
> of
> IT?
> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> Cell [1]217-412-5973
> ------ Original message------
> From: [2]joe.bishop-henchman--- via Lnc-business
> Date: Thu, Jul 5, 2018 6:32 PM
> To: [3][2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
> Cc: [4][3]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org;
> Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Judicial committee
> I've been thinking about this since the night of the At-Large/JC
> election and I do share Ms. Harlos's frustration. I had perhaps
> 100
> delegates who were going to support me already leave by the time
> we
> got
> to the At-Large election. Complaining about how long balloting and
> tabulation took is already the #1 feedback topic I'm getting from
> Party
> members.
> That said, I agree with Ms. Van Horn that the Convention did
> perhaps
> the
> least worst option under the circumstances. I worry that anything
> we
> do
> that departs from that, be it putting our own people on or keeping
> the
> dead hand of the last JC or sending a mail ballot to all Party
> members
> or some rump thereof, is even more disconnected from the rules we
> should
> be following and destined to be viewed as illegitimate and
> post-hoc.
> I would like to fix it for next time, as I know many of you do.
> Taking
> Mr. Goldstein's suggestion, I took a stab at tackling three birds
> with
> one stone:
> WHEREAS, the Libertarian National Convention on July 3, 2018 voted
> that
> the top vote-getters in the At-Large race fill all available
> At-Large
> seats on the LNC; and
> WHEREAS, Rule 9 directs that the election of Judicial Committee
> members
> be conducted as the same manner as specified for at-large members
> of
> the
> National Committee; and
> WHEREAS, LNC action pursuant to Bylaws Article 7, Section 7 would
> clear
> all potential doubts as to who the new LNC members are;
> THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that Joshua Smith, Bill Redpath, and
> Alicia
> Mattson are added to the LNC as At-Large members for a two-year
> term;
> and
> BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the LNC acknowledges the election of
> D.
> Frank Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl Perry, Ruth Bennett, Geoff
> Neale,
> Jim Turney, and Tricia Sprankle to the Judicial Committee for a
> four-year term; and
> BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that a special committee be established to
> present a consensus recommendation to the LNC by September 1, 2019
> for
> improving the election scheduling, balloting, and tabulation
> process
> of
> LNC elections, with said committee to consist of:
> (1) the Party Vice-Chair, who will act as chairperson
> (2) the Party Secretary
> (3) a designee of the Bylaws & Rules Committee
> (4) four Party members appointed by the Party Chair, from among
> the
> various caucuses in the Party.
> JBH
> On [5]2018-07-05 18:04, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
>
> Since we apparently closed the convention without a procedure for
> populating the JC, is anyone in the mood for a motion to
> appoint
> the
> top seven vote winners as the JC for this term? I suppose we
> can
> be
> anarchists and live without a JC this term or solicit
> applications
> from
> people who were not nominated at convention.
> I don't have the top seven names handy, we would have to verify
> they
> have been members for four years.
> --
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> [6]317-850-0726 Cell
>
> References
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> 2. [4]http://joe.bi/
> 3. mailto:[5]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 4. mailto:[6]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> 5. tel:2018-07-05 18
> 6. tel:317-850-0726
>
> --
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
> Washington)
> - [7]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
> Communications Director, [8]Libertarian Party of Colorado
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
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>
> References
>
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> 2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> 4. http://joe.bi/
> 5. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 6. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> 7. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 8. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
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