[Lnc-business] Judicial committee

[Joe Bishop-Henchman]

Appreciate the input. Since it sounds like we may tackle how to move 
forward on balloting/tabulation at the September meeting, or through 
alternative proposals, and the consensus is only immediately handling 
the JC issue, I'd like to seek co-sponsors for the following:

I move that the Libertarian National Committee acknowledge the election 
of the following to the Judicial Committee for a four-year term: D. 
Frank Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl Perry, Ruth Bennett, Geoff Neale, 
Jim Turney, and Tricia Sprankle.


I use the phrase "acknowledge the election of" instead of your 
suggestion, Mr. Goldstein, because the LNC neither has appointment power 
for the JC nor are they subordinate to the LNC. This is more in the 
nature of our acknowledging the legitimacy of the new JC members.

JBH


On 2018-07-05 19:57, Sam Goldstein wrote:
> Joe,
> 
> Arguments are not usually included in LNC motions because they are not
> resolutions but calls for action.  I don't think we need to address
> the At Large positions because the delegates did express their desire
> in that election to suspend the rules despite Ms. Harlos' objections.
> 
> I can't remember if the four year JC term passed.  If it did then the
> proper motion would read something like this:
> 
> "I move to fill the vacant Judicial Committee for a four (or two) year
> term with those candidates who finished in the top seven in voting at
> the 2018 LP Convention provided each candidate is eligible."
> 
> That takes care of the immediate problem.  I don't want to rush into
> appointed an Elections Committee since I think the entire process
> deserves and in depth discussion at the next LNC meeting.  We don't
> have another election for 2 years so let's get it right.
> 
> Live Free,
> 
> ---
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> 317-850-0726 Cell
> 
> On 2018-07-05 19:32, joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org wrote:
>> I've been thinking about this since the night of the At-Large/JC
>> election and I do share Ms. Harlos's frustration. I had perhaps 100
>> delegates who were going to support me already leave by the time we
>> got to the At-Large election. Complaining about how long balloting and
>> tabulation took is already the #1 feedback topic I'm getting from
>> Party members.
>> 
>> That said, I agree with Ms. Van Horn that the Convention did perhaps
>> the least worst option under the circumstances. I worry that anything
>> we do that departs from that, be it putting our own people on or
>> keeping the dead hand of the last JC or sending a mail ballot to all
>> Party members or some rump thereof, is even more disconnected from the
>> rules we should be following and destined to be viewed as illegitimate
>> and post-hoc.
>> 
>> I would like to fix it for next time, as I know many of you do. Taking
>> Mr. Goldstein's suggestion, I took a stab at tackling three birds with
>> one stone:
>> 
>> 
>> WHEREAS, the Libertarian National Convention on July 3, 2018 voted
>> that the top vote-getters in the At-Large race fill all available
>> At-Large seats on the LNC; and
>> 
>> WHEREAS, Rule 9 directs that the election of Judicial Committee
>> members be conducted as the same manner as specified for at-large
>> members of the National Committee; and
>> 
>> WHEREAS, LNC action pursuant to Bylaws Article 7, Section 7 would
>> clear all potential doubts as to who the new LNC members are;
>> 
>> THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that Joshua Smith, Bill Redpath, and Alicia
>> Mattson are added to the LNC as At-Large members for a two-year term;
>> and
>> 
>> BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the LNC acknowledges the election of D.
>> Frank Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl Perry, Ruth Bennett, Geoff
>> Neale, Jim Turney, and Tricia Sprankle to the Judicial Committee for a
>> four-year term; and
>> 
>> BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that a special committee be established to
>> present a consensus recommendation to the LNC by September 1, 2019 for
>> improving the election scheduling, balloting, and tabulation process
>> of LNC elections, with said committee to consist of:
>> (1) the Party Vice-Chair, who will act as chairperson
>> (2) the Party Secretary
>> (3) a designee of the Bylaws & Rules Committee
>> (4) four Party members appointed by the Party Chair, from among the
>> various caucuses in the Party.
>> 
>> 
>> JBH
>> 
>> 
>> On 2018-07-05 18:04, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> Since we apparently closed the convention without a procedure for
>>>    populating the JC, is anyone in the mood for a motion to appoint 
>>> the
>>>    top seven vote winners as the JC for this term?  I suppose we can 
>>> be
>>>    anarchists and live without a JC this term or solicit applications 
>>> from
>>>    people who were not nominated at convention.
>>> 
>>>    I don't have the top seven names handy, we would have to verify 
>>> they
>>>    have been members for four years.
>>> 
>>>    --
>>>    Sam Goldstein
>>>    Libertarian National Committee
>>>    317-850-0726 Cell

-- 
JBH

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Joe Bishop-Henchman
LNC Member (At-Large)
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