[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-11: ACKNOWLEDGE ELECTION OF JC
Joe Bishop-Henchman
joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
Mon Jul 9 17:16:08 EDT 2018
I get the anger. I'm angry. When we ultimately do get the state-by-state
tallies, I'm sure we'll find that hundreds of delegates didn't even vote
in the two races because we put them off so long. In the 2016
convention, whole states didn't cast votes in the At-Large and JC races.
Them's the rules - elections are won by those who stay and vote - but oh
my did we make it hard. The combination of voting methodology,
tabulation method, and scheduling left us in a bad place.
All that said, I don't want to just be angry and complain. As far as
actions that can be taken, this resolution is the most reasonable. Other
possibilities - revotes or mail votes of all Party members or us filling
the JC seats or setting multiple JCs in motion - are even more violative
of the Bylaws and Rules.
I do not dispute that one can reasonably argue that every JC candidate
was disapproved and that it should sit empty until 2022. The contrary
view admittedly rests on a thread of legality: the delegates expressed
their wish to take the top at-large candidates and the Bylaws say the
same applies for the JC. There's also no doubt in my mind that had they
been asked they would have done the same for the JC. A room of several
hundred Libertarians were not coerced into doing that - they went with
what Nick suggested because that's what they wanted to do. He just told
them how. They didn't want the LNC fighting over who would fill the
seats if they were left vacant.
I doubt I'm going to convince you but I did want to write this to
emphasize that at least I am not sanguine or sweeping anything blithely
under the rug. I expect rethinking how we do elections will be a big
priority for many of us.
JBH
On 2018-07-09 16:46, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> Suspension of the rules has to be specific and there is no way around
> the fact that we used the number 5 over and over.
>
> This is taking things to an even deeper level of improper. I object
> to
> the whole at-Large process- I don’t think the delegates made an
> independent choice and now to just infer this upon that is two
> bridges
> too far.
>
> This is a big screwup and I won’t be part of sweeping it under the
> rug.
>
> It alarms me to no end how blithely the whole situation is being
> taken.
>
> There are people looking at us and seeing nothing different than the
> government we wish to reform.
>
> There was a controversial election and at least one state chair and
> candidate has been asking for the state by state rallies with no
> time
> frame given him.
>
> The whole thing was an affront to people expecting an entirely
> different thing when they ran. I will not be sanguine about it.
>
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 2:20 PM Whitney Bilyeu
> <[1]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org> wrote:
>
> This point did come up immediately after adjournment, while Nick was
> still at the mic. I don't recall who brought it up, but the
> statement
> was made that it would follow the same procedure as At-Large at that
> point, since we were no longer in session.
> No one raised the question prior to that.
> Whitney Bilyeu
> Region 7 Representative
>
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
> <[2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> Joshua they were not given a choice on this. The JC never came
> up.
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:47 AM <[1][3]joshua.smith at lp.org>
> wrote:
> I vote yes. Given that the delegates were given the choice at
> convention
> just a few short days ago, I believe we should respect that
> decision.
> Thanks,
> Joshua D. Smith
> On 2018-07-07 22:23, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> > We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the
> LNC-Business
> > list by July 14, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
> Co-Sponsors:
> > Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hagan, Merced, Van Horn
> Motion:
> Move
> > that
> > the Libertarian National Committee acknowledge the
> election of
> the
> > following to the Judicial Committee for a four-year
> term:
> D.
> Frank
> > Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl Perry, Ruth Bennett,
> Geoff
> Neale,
> > Jim
> > Turney, and Tricia Sprankle. You can keep track of the
> Secretary's
>
> > manual tally of votes here:
> [1][2][4]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>
> > --
> > --
> > In Liberty,
> > Caryn Ann Harlos
> > Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
> (Alaska,
> > Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
> Wyoming,
> > Washington)
> > - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
> > Communications Director, [3]Libertarian Party of
> Colorado
> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
> > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> > We defend your rights
> > And oppose the use of force
> > Taxation is theft
> >
> > References
> >
>
> > 1. [3][5]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 2. mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> > 3. [5][6]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>
> --
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>
> - [6]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
> 1. mailto:[7]joshua.smith at lp.org
> 2. [8]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 3. [9]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 4. mailto:[10]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 5. [11]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> 6. mailto:[12]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>
> --
>
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> - [13]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
> 2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
> 4. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 5. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 6. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> 7. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
> 8. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 9. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 10. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 11. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> 12. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 13. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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JBH
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Joe Bishop-Henchman
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