[Lnc-business] update on timing
Richard Longstreth
richard.longstreth at lp.org
Tue Jul 10 23:24:59 EDT 2018
Thank you for your work Alicia. I appreciate your hasty efforts and
dedication in getting these items available as soon as you can.
Richard
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 05:09 Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> Ms. Harlos,
> I indicated before that I would be traveling with a full schedule and
> only sporadic internet access, and would not return to my more normal
> routine until Monday. I got home from my trip Sunday night, and
> starting in the wee hours of Monday morning you started the "Are we
> there yet?" messages about the At-Large details. Then throughout the
> day it became rather unfair characterizations that I was saying "well,
> whenever" as though I'm blowing it off. That tone is not warranted nor
> appreciated.
> Yes, the state-by-state numbers that add up to the totals I sent do
> exist, but providing that will not be the end of the story. If all I
> send is that, immediately the questions will begin about the instances
> where those numbers vary from the delegation tally sheets because we
> caught and corrected errors. Then while I am researching to answer
> those questions, we all know the internet gossip will get silly, with
> people not being careful to say only things they know to be true while
> waiting on answers to the questions.
> My usual practice is to do the post-convention audit as part of
> building the convention minutes, which is near the end of my to-do list
> after having updated other minutes with timing deadlines, policy,
> bylaws, platform, etc. Instead, so I can answer most questions on
> at-large before they are asked, because there was a very close outcome
> that involves me, I've prioritized the audit of the At-Large race to do
> it mostly first...though I did also send updated minutes to meet a
> posting deadline and update the Policy Manual earlier.
> When I provide the state-by-state numbers, I'll scan the state tally
> sheets, plus provide my notes about what's different between the two
> and why so that those questions can be addressed simultaneously in one
> message, rather than being spread out in different places at different
> times where people might miss some of it.
> You're well aware of how long it took a team of 10 people to go through
> the Judicial Committee votes after the LNC meeting on July 2nd? You
> can deduce from that how long it takes one person to give the At-Large
> the second-pass, fine-tooth-comb treatment. Today I spent a LARGE
> number of hours on the project. I think I have about a dozen states
> left to go, plus tally sheet scanning and writing up my notes. It
> takes only a few seconds for you to ask, "Are we there yet?", but it
> takes a lot longer to actually accomplish it.
> I didn't have the crystal ball at the start of the project to know
> precisely how long I would get to work on it today, or how long it
> would take to complete. Rather than emailing the LNC every 30 minutes,
> (and I haven't even taken time to comment on the two email ballots yet,
> though I have a bit to say there), I'm focusing on just getting this
> task done so I can move on to the next. It is a high priority on my
> list, and when I finish it, I'll send it.
> To others who have been asking about the rest of my to-do list, I'm
> doing this project first. In the case of adopted resolutions, please
> recall that our convention forges ahead and adopts all sorts of things
> from the floor while the Secretary is trying to tally election
> results. I suppose I should be flattered that some believe I can
> document those fully on the fly while I'm simultaneously aggregating
> election results, and have completed minutes immediately following
> adjournment, but that's a bit overly optimistic. I am a human who is
> constrained by the laws of time and space. I could only make sparse
> notes about the nature of other proceedings while I was working on
> elections, and when I start building the convention minutes, I'll have
> to go back and review the recordings to verify that I caught all the
> relevant details. I have a large envelope of lots of things that were
> submitted in writing, so I'll fish out what was actually voted on,
> verify that the written submission matches what the delegates were told
> they were voting on, etc.
> Again, all these items are in the queue, and I'll get to them all as
> soon as I reasonably can now that I am back at home with my usual
> workspace, but it is unreasonable to expect it to all happen
> instantaneously.
> -Alicia
>
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Thank you for your work Alicia. I appreciate your hasty efforts and
dedication in getting these items available as soon as you can.
Richard
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 05:09 Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business
<[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
Ms. Harlos,
I indicated before that I would be traveling with a full schedule
and
only sporadic internet access, and would not return to my more
normal
routine until Monday. I got home from my trip Sunday night, and
starting in the wee hours of Monday morning you started the "Are
we
there yet?" messages about the At-Large details. Then throughout
the
day it became rather unfair characterizations that I was saying
"well,
whenever" as though I'm blowing it off. That tone is not
warranted nor
appreciated.
Yes, the state-by-state numbers that add up to the totals I sent
do
exist, but providing that will not be the end of the story. If
all I
send is that, immediately the questions will begin about the
instances
where those numbers vary from the delegation tally sheets because
we
caught and corrected errors. Then while I am researching to
answer
those questions, we all know the internet gossip will get silly,
with
people not being careful to say only things they know to be true
while
waiting on answers to the questions.
My usual practice is to do the post-convention audit as part of
building the convention minutes, which is near the end of my
to-do list
after having updated other minutes with timing deadlines, policy,
bylaws, platform, etc. Instead, so I can answer most questions
on
at-large before they are asked, because there was a very close
outcome
that involves me, I've prioritized the audit of the At-Large race
to do
it mostly first...though I did also send updated minutes to meet
a
posting deadline and update the Policy Manual earlier.
When I provide the state-by-state numbers, I'll scan the state
tally
sheets, plus provide my notes about what's different between the
two
and why so that those questions can be addressed simultaneously
in one
message, rather than being spread out in different places at
different
times where people might miss some of it.
You're well aware of how long it took a team of 10 people to go
through
the Judicial Committee votes after the LNC meeting on July 2nd?
You
can deduce from that how long it takes one person to give the
At-Large
the second-pass, fine-tooth-comb treatment. Today I spent a
LARGE
number of hours on the project. I think I have about a dozen
states
left to go, plus tally sheet scanning and writing up my notes.
It
takes only a few seconds for you to ask, "Are we there yet?", but
it
takes a lot longer to actually accomplish it.
I didn't have the crystal ball at the start of the project to
know
precisely how long I would get to work on it today, or how long
it
would take to complete. Rather than emailing the LNC every 30
minutes,
(and I haven't even taken time to comment on the two email
ballots yet,
though I have a bit to say there), I'm focusing on just getting
this
task done so I can move on to the next. It is a high priority on
my
list, and when I finish it, I'll send it.
To others who have been asking about the rest of my to-do list,
I'm
doing this project first. In the case of adopted resolutions,
please
recall that our convention forges ahead and adopts all sorts of
things
from the floor while the Secretary is trying to tally election
results. I suppose I should be flattered that some believe I can
document those fully on the fly while I'm simultaneously
aggregating
election results, and have completed minutes immediately
following
adjournment, but that's a bit overly optimistic. I am a human
who is
constrained by the laws of time and space. I could only make
sparse
notes about the nature of other proceedings while I was working
on
elections, and when I start building the convention minutes, I'll
have
to go back and review the recordings to verify that I caught all
the
relevant details. I have a large envelope of lots of things that
were
submitted in writing, so I'll fish out what was actually voted
on,
verify that the written submission matches what the delegates
were told
they were voting on, etc.
Again, all these items are in the queue, and I'll get to them all
as
soon as I reasonably can now that I am back at home with my usual
workspace, but it is unreasonable to expect it to all happen
instantaneously.
-Alicia
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