[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-11: ACKNOWLEDGE ELECTION OF JC
Caryn Ann Harlos
caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Wed Jul 11 08:26:05 EDT 2018
John that would be possible IF the ruling and motion did not specifically
say "top 5" over and over. We were too specific to get away with this post
hoc explanation. And right after adjournment there was a very obvious
scramble and "oh shit" moment. We can all wink, wink and pretend like
there wasn't but there was.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 6:22 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:
> No there is no way it results in two since the top seven are not the JC by
> any interpretation. That rule was not suspended. Right now we have NO JC.
>
> and I am not suggesting a new ballot. I am suggesting a round two of the
> current ballot. That has no suggestion at all of us influencing the race.
>
> The rules were not suspended. The claim that they implicitly were is as
> post-hoc as it comes. I cannot and will not defend that. It was a
> screw-up. It happens. But post-hoc LNC justifications are not the way to
> fix that screw-up.
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 6:05 AM, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
>> Well, I said I would bow out, but this calls for a quick reply.
>> Possibly. Or we follow the interpretation presented that says the
>> bylaws read the JC is elected using the same form as the At Large.
>> Which agree with it or not, rules were changed by the delegates to
>> elect them.
>> So under that interpretation the top 7 were elected, and it gives a
>> mechanism for us to move on.
>> Not debating it, you can agree or disagree with that interpretation.
>> The only reason I chimed in again was to make sure full information was
>> presented.
>> John Phillips
>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>> Cell [1]217-412-5973
>>
>> ------ Original message------
>> From: Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business
>> Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2018 6:15 AM
>> To: [2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
>> Cc: Richard Longstreth;
>> Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-11: ACKNOWLEDGE ELECTION
>> OF JC
>> I would remind the committee that according to our bylaws, nobody was
>> actually elected by the delegates according to the procedures laid out.
>> The
>> LNC rubber stamping a plurality vote does violate the bylaws. The LNC
>> asking delegates to revote does not. Is mail the best way? Perhaps not,
>> but
>> are there any other ideas that don't make us look like we are appointing
>> our own judges in case there is a trial (metaphorically)?
>>
>> RTL
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 22:08 Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business <[3]
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Agree, and will also be withdrawing from the email debate.
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Elizabeth Van Horn
>> >
>> >
>> > On [4]2018-07-11 00:11, [5]john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote:
>> > > That is exactly what I have been doing, polling my region, discussing
>> > > their points and even helping provide the arguments against made by
>> > > others, and telling them that in this matter if they wanted me to
>> > > change my vote I absolutely would.
>> > > So far the response is unanimously in favor of this motion, with
>> the
>> > > only corollary being that we get it done then fix the broken
>> system.
>> > > Which several have volunteered to serve on committees to help with.
>> > > Now unless the people in my region swamp me with requests to change
>> > > my
>> > > vote, I will be withdrawing myself from this pointless retreading
>> of
>> > > the same arguments. I have better things to do, like discuss
>> actual
>> > > fixes so the clusterf*** does not happen again.
>> > > John Phillips
>> > > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>> > > Cell [1][6]217-412-5973
>> > >
>> > > ------ Original message------
>> > > From: Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business
>> > > Date: Tue, Jul 10, 2018 10:14 PM
>> > > To: [2[7]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
>> > > Cc: Elizabeth Van Horn;
>> > > Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-11: ACKNOWLEDGE
>> > > ELECTION
>> > > OF JC
>> > > I'd like to remind new members to listen to your constituency. If
>> > > you're
>> > > a Region Rep, that means your regional members, state affiliate
>> > > officers, etc. For At-Large, that means *all* the LP members are your
>> > > constituency, so a broad spectrum feedback might give you information
>> > > on
>> > > what the LP body wishes.
>> > >
>> > > Also, I'll say that some of the feedback I'm getting from Region 3
>> says
>> > > that they'd be fine with *no* Judicial Committee. This feedback came
>> > > from a State Chair and a State VC, in Region 3, and officers of two
>> > > other state affiliates in the region. The 'no Judicial Committee"
>> > > option, means we just don't have a JC, and then in 2020, during a
>> > > regular convention, the delegate body elects a new Judicial Committee.
>> > >
>> > > NO ONE has suggested that the LNC conduct a mail ballot of the former
>> > > delegates at the convention, and I'd also be against that method, as
>> > > that *would* be the LNC trying to orchestrate an outcome, as we
>> already
>> > > had a delegate vote regarding the JC. That would be the LNC
>> > > disregarding the delegate body and votes that we all saw happen at
>> > > convention. The way to respect the delegate body, is to either
>> approve
>> > > the top seven JC candidates, or have no JC until the 2020 convention
>> > > can
>> > > elect that committee. The former would be giving voice to the
>> delegate
>> > > body, and the latter would also be giving voice, while recognizing
>> that
>> > > the delegate voting procedure didn't finalize a committee.
>> > >
>> > > ---
>> > > Elizabeth Van Horn
>> > > LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>> > > Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>> > > LP Social Media Process Review Committee
>> > > Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>> > > [3][8]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On [4][9]2018-07-10 20:21, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>> > >> And I remind everyone, particularly the new members, this is
>> > >> ultimately
>> > >> a parliamentary question not a popularity one. And I urge you to
>> > >> avail
>> > >> yourselves of the opportunity to speak with the convention
>> > >> parliamentarian on this issue.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 6:19 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>> > >> <[1[5][10]]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Thank you for considering my points Richard. I am coming at this
>> > >> also
>> > >> from a keen awareness of how awry things like this can go. One
>> > >> small
>> > >> well-intentioned expediency on the part the LNC can turn into a
>> > >> depth
>> > >> charge that lasts for a decade.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 3:18 PM, Richard Longstreth via
>> > >> Lnc-business
>> > >> <[2[6][11]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> I am changing Region 1's vote to abstain.
>> > >> I am continuing to think on this and hear back from more in
>> my
>> > >> region
>> > >> before finalizing my decision. I am leaning toward voting no
>> > >> at
>> > >> this
>> > >> point but will cast a final ballot on Saturday with
>> > >> explanation
>> > >> (our
>> > >> deadline). Please continue discussion as all points are
>> > >> relevant.
>> > >> RTL
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 11:55 William Redpath via Lnc-business
>> > >> <[1][3[7][12]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> > >> I vote Yes. Bill Redpath
>> > >> On [8][13]2018-07-09 13:47, [9][14]joshua.smith--- via
>> Lnc-business
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > I vote yes. Given that the delegates were given the choice
>> > >> at
>> > >> > convention just a few short days ago, I believe we should
>> > >> respect
>> > >> that
>> > >> > decision.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Thanks,
>> > >> > Joshua D. Smith
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On [10][15]2018-07-07 22:23, Caryn Ann Harlos via
>> Lnc-business
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> >> We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the
>> > >> LNC-Business
>> > >> >> list by July 14, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
>> > >> Co-Sponsors:
>> > >> >> Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hagan, Merced, Van Horn
>> > >> Motion:
>> > >> Move
>> > >> >> that
>> > >> >> the Libertarian National Committee acknowledge the
>> > >> election
>> > >> of
>> > >> the
>> > >> >> following to the Judicial Committee for a four-year
>> > >> term:
>> > >> D.
>> > >> Frank
>> > >> >> Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl Perry, Ruth Bennett,
>> > >> Geoff
>> > >> Neale,
>> > >> >> Jim
>> > >> >> Turney, and Tricia Sprankle. You can keep track of the
>> > >> Secretary's
>> > >> >> manual tally of votes here:
>> > >>
>> > >> [1][2][4][11][16]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> > >> >> --
>> > >> >> --
>> > >> >> In Liberty,
>> > >> >> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> > >> >> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National
>> > >> Committee
>> > >> (Alaska,
>> > >> >> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
>> > >> Wyoming,
>> > >> >> Washington)
>> > >> >> - [2][12][17]Caryn.Ann.[13][18] Harlos at LP.org
>> > >> >> Communications Director, [3]Libertarian Party of
>> > >> Colorado
>> > >> >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>> > >> >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> > >> >> We defend your rights
>> > >> >> And oppose the use of force
>> > >> >> Taxation is theft
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> References
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> 1. [3][5][14][19]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> > >> >> 2. mailto:[4[15][20]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> > >> >> 3. [5][6][16][21]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> > >> References
>> > >> 1. mailto:[7[17][22]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> > >> 2. [8][18][23]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> > >>
>> > >> 3. [9][19][24]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> > >> 4. mailto:[10[20][25]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> > >> 5. [11][21][26]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> --
>> > >> In Liberty,
>> > >> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> > >> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>> > >> - [12][22][27]Caryn.Ann.[23][28] Harlos at LP.org or[24][29]
>> Secretary at LP.o
>> rg.
>> > >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[25][30]
>> LPedia at LP.org
>> > >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> > >> We defend your rights
>> > >> And oppose the use of force
>> > >> Taxation is theft
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> --
>> > >> In Liberty,
>> > >> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> > >> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>> > >> - [13][26][31]Caryn.Ann.[27][32] Harlos at LP.org or[28][33]
>> Secretary at LP.o
>> rg.
>> > >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[29][34]
>> LPedia at LP.org
>> > >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> > >> We defend your rights
>> > >> And oppose the use of force
>> > >> Taxation is theft
>> > >>
>> > >> References
>> > >>
>> > >> 1. mailto[30][35]:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> > >> 2. mailto[31][36]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> > >> 3. mailto[32][37]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> > >> 4. [33][38]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> > >> 5. [34][39]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> > >> 6. [35][40]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> > >> 7. mailto[36][41]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> > >> 8. [37][42]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> > >> 9. [38][43]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> > >> 10. mailto[39][44]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> > >> 11. [40][45]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> > >> 12. mailto[41][46]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> > >> 13. mailto[42][47]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> > >
>> > > References
>> > >
>> > > 1. tel:[48]217-412-5973
>> > > 2. mailto[49]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> > > 3. [50]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>> > > 4. tel:[51]2018-07-10 20
>> > > 5. mailto:[52]]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> > > 6. mailto:[53]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> > > 7. mailto:[54]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> > > 8. tel:[55]2018-07-09 13
>> > > 9. [56]http://joshua.sm/
>> > > 10. tel:[57]2018-07-07 22
>> > > 11. [58]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> > > 12. [59]http://Caryn.An/
>> > > 13. mailto:[60] Harlos at LP.org
>> > > 14. [61]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> > > 15. mailto:[62]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> > > 16. [63]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> > > 17. mailto:[64]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> > > 18. [65]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> > > 19. [66]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> > > 20. mailto:[67]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> > > 21. [68]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> > > 22. [69]http://Caryn.An/
>> > > 23. mailto:[70] Harlos at LP.org
>> > > 24. mailto:[71] Secretary at LP.org.
>> > > 25. mailto:[72] LPedia at LP.org
>> > > 26. [73]http://Caryn.An/
>> > > 27. mailto:[74] Harlos at LP.org
>> > > 28. mailto:[75] Secretary at LP.org.
>> > > 29. mailto:[76] LPedia at LP.org
>> > > 30. mailto:[77]:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> > > 31. mailto:[78]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> > > 32. mailto:[79]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> > > 33. [80]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> > > 34. [81]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> > > 35. [82]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> > > 36. mailto:[83]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> > > 37. [84]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> > > 38. [85]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> > > 39. mailto:[86]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> > > 40. [87]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> > > 41. mailto:[88]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> > > 42. mailto:[89]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >
>>
>> I would remind the committee that according to our bylaws, nobody was
>> actually elected by the delegates according to the procedures laid out.
>> The LNC rubber stamping a plurality vote does violate the bylaws. The
>> LNC asking delegates to revote does not. Is mail the best way? Perhaps
>> not, but are there any other ideas that don't make us look like we are
>> appointing our own judges in case there is a trial (metaphorically)?
>>
>> RTL
>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 22:08 Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business
>> <[1[90]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> Agree, and will also be withdrawing from the email debate.
>> ---
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>> On [91]2018-07-11 00:11, [92]john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote:
>> > That is exactly what I have been doing, polling my region,
>> discussing
>> > their points and even helping provide the arguments against
>> made by
>> > others, and telling them that in this matter if they wanted me
>> to
>> > change my vote I absolutely would.
>> > So far the response is unanimously in favor of this motion,
>> with the
>> > only corollary being that we get it done then fix the broken
>> system.
>> > Which several have volunteered to serve on committees to help
>> with.
>> > Now unless the people in my region swamp me with requests to
>> change
>> > my
>> > vote, I will be withdrawing myself from this pointless
>> retreading of
>> > the same arguments. I have better things to do, like discuss
>> actual
>> > fixes so the clusterf*** does not happen again.
>> > John Phillips
>> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>> > Cell [1][93]217-412-5973
>> >
>> > ------ Original message------
>> > From: Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business
>> > Date: Tue, Jul 10, 2018 10:14 PM
>> > To: [2][2[94]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
>> > Cc: Elizabeth Van Horn;
>> > Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-11: ACKNOWLEDGE
>> > ELECTION
>> > OF JC
>> > I'd like to remind new members to listen to your constituency. If
>> > you're
>> > a Region Rep, that means your regional members, state affiliate
>> > officers, etc. For At-Large, that means *all* the LP members are
>> your
>> > constituency, so a broad spectrum feedback might give you
>> information
>> > on
>> > what the LP body wishes.
>> >
>> > Also, I'll say that some of the feedback I'm getting from Region 3
>> says
>> > that they'd be fine with *no* Judicial Committee. This feedback
>> came
>> > from a State Chair and a State VC, in Region 3, and officers of
>> two
>> > other state affiliates in the region. The 'no Judicial Committee"
>> > option, means we just don't have a JC, and then in 2020, during a
>> > regular convention, the delegate body elects a new Judicial
>> Committee.
>> >
>> > NO ONE has suggested that the LNC conduct a mail ballot of the
>> former
>> > delegates at the convention, and I'd also be against that method,
>> as
>> > that *would* be the LNC trying to orchestrate an outcome, as we
>> already
>> > had a delegate vote regarding the JC. That would be the LNC
>> > disregarding the delegate body and votes that we all saw happen at
>> > convention. The way to respect the delegate body, is to either
>> approve
>> > the top seven JC candidates, or have no JC until the 2020
>> convention
>> > can
>> > elect that committee. The former would be giving voice to the
>> delegate
>> > body, and the latter would also be giving voice, while recognizing
>> that
>> > the delegate voting procedure didn't finalize a committee.
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Elizabeth Van Horn
>> > LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>> > Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>> > LP Social Media Process Review Committee
>> > Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>> > [3][3][95]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>> >
>> >
>> > On [4][96]2018-07-10 20:21, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>> wrote:
>> >> And I remind everyone, particularly the new members, this is
>> >> ultimately
>> >> a parliamentary question not a popularity one. And I urge you
>> to
>> >> avail
>> >> yourselves of the opportunity to speak with the convention
>> >> parliamentarian on this issue.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 6:19 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >> <[1[5]][4[97]]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for considering my points Richard. I am coming at
>> this
>> >> also
>> >> from a keen awareness of how awry things like this can go.
>> One
>> >> small
>> >> well-intentioned expediency on the part the LNC can turn into
>> a
>> >> depth
>> >> charge that lasts for a decade.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 3:18 PM, Richard Longstreth via
>> >> Lnc-business
>> >> <[2[6]][5[98]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I am changing Region 1's vote to abstain.
>> >> I am continuing to think on this and hear back from more
>> in my
>> >> region
>> >> before finalizing my decision. I am leaning toward voting
>> no
>> >> at
>> >> this
>> >> point but will cast a final ballot on Saturday with
>> >> explanation
>> >> (our
>> >> deadline). Please continue discussion as all points are
>> >> relevant.
>> >> RTL
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 11:55 William Redpath via
>> Lnc-business
>> >> <[1][3[7]][6[99]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >> I vote Yes. Bill Redpath
>> >> On [8][100]2018-07-09 13:47, [9][101]joshua.smith--- via
>> Lnc-business
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > I vote yes. Given that the delegates were given the
>> choice
>> >> at
>> >> > convention just a few short days ago, I believe we
>> should
>> >> respect
>> >> that
>> >> > decision.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Joshua D. Smith
>> >> >
>> >> > On [10][102]2018-07-07 22:23, Caryn Ann Harlos via
>> Lnc-business
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to
>> the
>> >> LNC-Business
>> >> >> list by July 14, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
>> >> Co-Sponsors:
>> >> >> Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hagan, Merced, Van Horn
>> >> Motion:
>> >> Move
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> the Libertarian National Committee acknowledge the
>> >> election
>> >> of
>> >> the
>> >> >> following to the Judicial Committee for a four-year
>> >> term:
>> >> D.
>> >> Frank
>> >> >> Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl Perry, Ruth
>> Bennett,
>> >> Geoff
>> >> Neale,
>> >> >> Jim
>> >> >> Turney, and Tricia Sprankle. You can keep track of
>> the
>> >> Secretary's
>> >> >> manual tally of votes here:
>> >>
>> >> [1][2][4][11][7][103]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> In Liberty,
>> >> >> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >> >> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National
>> >> Committee
>> >> (Alaska,
>> >> >> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
>> >> Wyoming,
>> >> >> Washington)
>> >> >> - [2][12][104]Caryn.Ann.[13][105] Harlos at LP.org
>> >> >> Communications Director, [3]Libertarian Party of
>> >> Colorado
>> >> >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>> >> >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> >> >> We defend your rights
>> >> >> And oppose the use of force
>> >> >> Taxation is theft
>> >> >>
>> >> >> References
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 1. [3][5][14][8][106]https://tiny
>> url.com/lncvoting
>> >> >> 2. mailto:[4[15][107]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> >> 3. [5][6][16][9][108]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> References
>> >> 1. mailto:[7[17]][10[109]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >> 2. [8][18][11][110]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >>
>> >> 3. [9][19][12][111]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 4. mailto:[10[20][112]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> 5. [11][21][13][113]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> --
>> >> In Liberty,
>> >> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>> >> - [12][22][114]Caryn.Ann.[23][115] Harlos at LP.org or[24]
>> [116] Secretary at LP.org.
>> >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[25]
>> [117] LPedia at LP.org
>> >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> >> We defend your rights
>> >> And oppose the use of force
>> >> Taxation is theft
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> --
>> >> In Liberty,
>> >> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>> >> - [13][26][118]Caryn.Ann.[27][119] Harlos at LP.org or[28]
>> [120] Secretary at LP.org.
>> >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[29]
>> [121] LPedia at LP.org
>> >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> >> We defend your rights
>> >> And oppose the use of force
>> >> Taxation is theft
>> >>
>> >> References
>> >>
>> >> 1. mailto[30]:[14[122]]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> >> 2. mailto[31]:[15[123]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >> 3. mailto[32]:[16[124]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >> 4. [33][17][125]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 5. [34][18][126]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 6. [35][19][127]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 7. mailto[36]:[20[128]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >> 8. [37][21][129]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 9. [38][22][130]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 10. mailto[39][131]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> 11. [40][23][132]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 12. mailto[41][133]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> 13. mailto[42][134]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >
>> > References
>> >
>> > 1. tel:[135]217-412-5973
>> > 2. mailto:[24[136]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> > 3. [25][137]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>> > 4. tel:[138]2018-07-10 20
>> > 5. mailto:][26[139]]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> > 6. mailto:][27[140]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> > 7. mailto:][28[141]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> > 8. tel:[142]2018-07-09 13
>> > 9. [29][143]http://joshua.sm/
>> > 10. tel:[144]2018-07-07 22
>> > 11. [30][145]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> > 12. [31][146]http://Caryn.An/
>> > 13. mailto:[147] Harlos at LP.org
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>> > 15. mailto:[149]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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>> > 17. mailto:][34[151]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> > 18. [35][152]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
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>> > 22. [38][156]http://Caryn.An/
>> > 23. mailto:[157] Harlos at LP.org
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>> > 27. mailto:[161] Harlos at LP.org
>> > 28. mailto:[162] Secretary at LP.org.
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>>
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>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
--
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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John that would be possible IF the ruling and motion did not
specifically say "top 5" over and over. We were too specific to get
away with this post hoc explanation. And right after adjournment there
was a very obvious scramble and "oh shit" moment. We can all wink,
wink and pretend like there wasn't but there was.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 6:22 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
<[1]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
No there is no way it results in two since the top seven are not the JC
by any interpretation. That rule was not suspended. Right now we have
NO JC.
and I am not suggesting a new ballot. I am suggesting a round two of
the current ballot. That has no suggestion at all of us influencing
the race.
The rules were not suspended. The claim that they implicitly were is
as post-hoc as it comes. I cannot and will not defend that. It was a
screw-up. It happens. But post-hoc LNC justifications are not the way
to fix that screw-up.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 6:05 AM, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business
<[2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
Well, I said I would bow out, but this calls for a quick reply.
Possibly. Or we follow the interpretation presented that says
the
bylaws read the JC is elected using the same form as the At
Large.
Which agree with it or not, rules were changed by the delegates
to
elect them.
So under that interpretation the top 7 were elected, and it gives
a
mechanism for us to move on.
Not debating it, you can agree or disagree with that
interpretation.
The only reason I chimed in again was to make sure full
information was
presented.
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell [1]217-412-5973
------ Original message------
From: Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business
Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2018 6:15 AM
To: [2][3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
Cc: Richard Longstreth;
Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-11: ACKNOWLEDGE
ELECTION
OF JC
I would remind the committee that according to our bylaws, nobody
was
actually elected by the delegates according to the procedures laid
out. The
LNC rubber stamping a plurality vote does violate the bylaws. The
LNC
asking delegates to revote does not. Is mail the best way? Perhaps
not, but
are there any other ideas that don't make us look like we are
appointing
our own judges in case there is a trial (metaphorically)?
RTL
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 22:08 Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business <[3]
[4]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> Agree, and will also be withdrawing from the email debate.
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
>
>
> On [4]2018-07-11 00:11, [5]john.phillips--- via Lnc-business
wrote:
> > That is exactly what I have been doing, polling my region,
discussing
> > their points and even helping provide the arguments against
made by
> > others, and telling them that in this matter if they wanted
me to
> > change my vote I absolutely would.
> > So far the response is unanimously in favor of this motion,
with the
> > only corollary being that we get it done then fix the broken
system.
> > Which several have volunteered to serve on committees to help
with.
> > Now unless the people in my region swamp me with requests to
change
> > my
> > vote, I will be withdrawing myself from this pointless
retreading of
> > the same arguments. I have better things to do, like discuss
actual
> > fixes so the clusterf*** does not happen again.
> > John Phillips
> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> > Cell [1][6]217-412-5973
> >
> > ------ Original message------
> > From: Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business
> > Date: Tue, Jul 10, 2018 10:14 PM
> > To: [2[7]][5]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
> > Cc: Elizabeth Van Horn;
> > Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-11: ACKNOWLEDGE
> > ELECTION
> > OF JC
> > I'd like to remind new members to listen to your constituency. If
> > you're
> > a Region Rep, that means your regional members, state affiliate
> > officers, etc. For At-Large, that means *all* the LP members are
your
> > constituency, so a broad spectrum feedback might give you
information
> > on
> > what the LP body wishes.
> >
> > Also, I'll say that some of the feedback I'm getting from Region 3
says
> > that they'd be fine with *no* Judicial Committee. This feedback
came
> > from a State Chair and a State VC, in Region 3, and officers of two
> > other state affiliates in the region. The 'no Judicial Committee"
> > option, means we just don't have a JC, and then in 2020, during a
> > regular convention, the delegate body elects a new Judicial
Committee.
> >
> > NO ONE has suggested that the LNC conduct a mail ballot of the
former
> > delegates at the convention, and I'd also be against that method,
as
> > that *would* be the LNC trying to orchestrate an outcome, as we
already
> > had a delegate vote regarding the JC. That would be the LNC
> > disregarding the delegate body and votes that we all saw happen at
> > convention. The way to respect the delegate body, is to either
approve
> > the top seven JC candidates, or have no JC until the 2020
convention
> > can
> > elect that committee. The former would be giving voice to the
delegate
> > body, and the latter would also be giving voice, while recognizing
that
> > the delegate voting procedure didn't finalize a committee.
> >
> > ---
> > Elizabeth Van Horn
> > LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> > Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
> > LP Social Media Process Review Committee
> > Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
> > [3][8][6]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> >
> >
> > On [4][9]2018-07-10 20:21, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
wrote:
> >> And I remind everyone, particularly the new members, this is
> >> ultimately
> >> a parliamentary question not a popularity one. And I urge
you to
> >> avail
> >> yourselves of the opportunity to speak with the convention
> >> parliamentarian on this issue.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 6:19 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
> >> <[1[5][10]][7]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thank you for considering my points Richard. I am coming at
this
> >> also
> >> from a keen awareness of how awry things like this can go.
One
> >> small
> >> well-intentioned expediency on the part the LNC can turn
into a
> >> depth
> >> charge that lasts for a decade.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 3:18 PM, Richard Longstreth via
> >> Lnc-business
> >> <[2[6][11]][8]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> I am changing Region 1's vote to abstain.
> >> I am continuing to think on this and hear back from
more in my
> >> region
> >> before finalizing my decision. I am leaning toward
voting no
> >> at
> >> this
> >> point but will cast a final ballot on Saturday with
> >> explanation
> >> (our
> >> deadline). Please continue discussion as all points are
> >> relevant.
> >> RTL
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 11:55 William Redpath via
Lnc-business
> >> <[1][3[7][12]][9]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >> I vote Yes. Bill Redpath
> >> On [8][13]2018-07-09 13:47, [9][14]joshua.smith--- via
Lnc-business
> >> wrote:
> >> > I vote yes. Given that the delegates were given the
choice
> >> at
> >> > convention just a few short days ago, I believe we
should
> >> respect
> >> that
> >> > decision.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Joshua D. Smith
> >> >
> >> > On [10][15]2018-07-07 22:23, Caryn Ann Harlos via
Lnc-business
> >> wrote:
> >> >> We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to
the
> >> LNC-Business
> >> >> list by July 14, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
> >> Co-Sponsors:
> >> >> Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hagan, Merced, Van
Horn
> >> Motion:
> >> Move
> >> >> that
> >> >> the Libertarian National Committee acknowledge
the
> >> election
> >> of
> >> the
> >> >> following to the Judicial Committee for a
four-year
> >> term:
> >> D.
> >> Frank
> >> >> Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl Perry, Ruth
Bennett,
> >> Geoff
> >> Neale,
> >> >> Jim
> >> >> Turney, and Tricia Sprankle. You can keep track
of the
> >> Secretary's
> >> >> manual tally of votes here:
> >>
> >> [1][2][4][11][16][10]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >> >> --
> >> >> --
> >> >> In Liberty,
> >> >> Caryn Ann Harlos
> >> >> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National
> >> Committee
> >> (Alaska,
> >> >> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana,
Utah,
> >> Wyoming,
> >> >> Washington)
> >> >> - [2][12][17]Caryn.Ann.[13][18] Harlos at LP.org
> >> >> Communications Director, [3]Libertarian Party
of
> >> Colorado
> >> >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
> >> >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >> >> We defend your rights
> >> >> And oppose the use of force
> >> >> Taxation is theft
> >> >>
> >> >> References
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. [3][5][14][19][11]https://tinyurl.
com/lncvoting
> >> >> 2. mailto:[4[15][20]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >> >> 3. [5][6][16][21][12]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >> References
> >> 1. mailto:[7[17][22]][13]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >> 2. [8][18][23][14]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>
> >> 3. [9][19][24][15]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >> 4. mailto:[10[20][25]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >> 5. [11][21][26][16]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>
> >> --
> >> --
> >> In Liberty,
> >> Caryn Ann Harlos
> >> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
Secretary
> >> - [12][22][27]Caryn.Ann.[23][28] Harlos at LP.org or[24][29]
Secretary at LP.o
rg.
> >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[25][30]
LPedia at LP.org
> >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >> We defend your rights
> >> And oppose the use of force
> >> Taxation is theft
> >>
> >> --
> >> --
> >> In Liberty,
> >> Caryn Ann Harlos
> >> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
Secretary
> >> - [13][26][31]Caryn.Ann.[27][32] Harlos at LP.org or[28][33]
Secretary at LP.o
rg.
> >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[29][34]
LPedia at LP.org
> >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >> We defend your rights
> >> And oppose the use of force
> >> Taxation is theft
> >>
> >> References
> >>
> >> 1. mailto[30][35]:[17]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> >> 2. mailto[31][36]:[18]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >> 3. mailto[32][37]:[19]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >> 4. [33][38][20]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >> 5. [34][39][21]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >> 6. [35][40][22]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >> 7. mailto[36][41]:[23]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >> 8. [37][42][24]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >> 9. [38][43][25]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >> 10. mailto[39][44]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >> 11. [40][45][26]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >> 12. mailto[41][46]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >> 13. mailto[42][47]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. tel:[48]217-412-5973
> > 2. mailto[49]:[27]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 3. [50][28]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> > 4. tel:[51]2018-07-10 20
> > 5. mailto:[52]][29]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> > 6. mailto:[53]][30]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 7. mailto:[54]][31]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 8. tel:[55]2018-07-09 13
> > 9. [56][32]http://joshua.sm/
> > 10. tel:[57]2018-07-07 22
> > 11. [58][33]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 12. [59][34]http://Caryn.An/
> > 13. mailto:[60] Harlos at LP.org
> > 14. [61][35]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 15. mailto:[62]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> > 16. [63][36]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> > 17. mailto:[64]][37]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 18. [65][38]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 19. [66][39]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 20. mailto:[67]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> > 21. [68][40]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> > 22. [69][41]http://Caryn.An/
> > 23. mailto:[70] Harlos at LP.org
> > 24. mailto:[71] Secretary at LP.org.
> > 25. mailto:[72] LPedia at LP.org
> > 26. [73][42]http://Caryn.An/
> > 27. mailto:[74] Harlos at LP.org
> > 28. mailto:[75] Secretary at LP.org.
> > 29. mailto:[76] LPedia at LP.org
> > 30. mailto:[77]:[43]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> > 31. mailto:[78]:[44]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 32. mailto:[79]:[45]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 33. [80][46]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 34. [81][47]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 35. [82][48]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> > 36. mailto:[83]:[49]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > 37. [84][50]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 38. [85][51]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> > 39. mailto:[86]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> > 40. [87][52]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> > 41. mailto:[88]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> > 42. mailto:[89]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>
I would remind the committee that according to our bylaws, nobody
was
actually elected by the delegates according to the procedures
laid out.
The LNC rubber stamping a plurality vote does violate the bylaws.
The
LNC asking delegates to revote does not. Is mail the best way?
Perhaps
not, but are there any other ideas that don't make us look like
we are
appointing our own judges in case there is a trial
(metaphorically)?
RTL
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 22:08 Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business
<[1[90]][53]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
Agree, and will also be withdrawing from the email debate.
---
Elizabeth Van Horn
On [91]2018-07-11 00:11, [92]john.phillips--- via Lnc-business
wrote:
> That is exactly what I have been doing, polling my region,
discussing
> their points and even helping provide the arguments
against
made by
> others, and telling them that in this matter if they
wanted me
to
> change my vote I absolutely would.
> So far the response is unanimously in favor of this
motion,
with the
> only corollary being that we get it done then fix the
broken
system.
> Which several have volunteered to serve on committees to
help
with.
> Now unless the people in my region swamp me with requests
to
change
> my
> vote, I will be withdrawing myself from this pointless
retreading of
> the same arguments. I have better things to do, like
discuss
actual
> fixes so the clusterf*** does not happen again.
> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> Cell [1][93]217-412-5973
>
> ------ Original message------
> From: Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business
> Date: Tue, Jul 10, 2018 10:14 PM
> To: [2][2[94]][54]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
> Cc: Elizabeth Van Horn;
> Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-11: ACKNOWLEDGE
> ELECTION
> OF JC
> I'd like to remind new members to listen to your constituency.
If
> you're
> a Region Rep, that means your regional members, state affiliate
> officers, etc. For At-Large, that means *all* the LP members
are
your
> constituency, so a broad spectrum feedback might give you
information
> on
> what the LP body wishes.
>
> Also, I'll say that some of the feedback I'm getting from Region
3
says
> that they'd be fine with *no* Judicial Committee. This feedback
came
> from a State Chair and a State VC, in Region 3, and officers of
two
> other state affiliates in the region. The 'no Judicial
Committee"
> option, means we just don't have a JC, and then in 2020, during
a
> regular convention, the delegate body elects a new Judicial
Committee.
>
> NO ONE has suggested that the LNC conduct a mail ballot of the
former
> delegates at the convention, and I'd also be against that
method,
as
> that *would* be the LNC trying to orchestrate an outcome, as we
already
> had a delegate vote regarding the JC. That would be the LNC
> disregarding the delegate body and votes that we all saw happen
at
> convention. The way to respect the delegate body, is to either
approve
> the top seven JC candidates, or have no JC until the 2020
convention
> can
> elect that committee. The former would be giving voice to the
delegate
> body, and the latter would also be giving voice, while
recognizing
that
> the delegate voting procedure didn't finalize a committee.
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
> LP Social Media Process Review Committee
> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
> [3][3][95][55]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>
>
> On [4][96]2018-07-10 20:21, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
wrote:
>> And I remind everyone, particularly the new members, this is
>> ultimately
>> a parliamentary question not a popularity one. And I
urge you
to
>> avail
>> yourselves of the opportunity to speak with the
convention
>> parliamentarian on this issue.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 6:19 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>> <[1[5]][4[97]][56]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for considering my points Richard. I am coming
at
this
>> also
>> from a keen awareness of how awry things like this can
go.
One
>> small
>> well-intentioned expediency on the part the LNC can turn
into
a
>> depth
>> charge that lasts for a decade.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 3:18 PM, Richard Longstreth via
>> Lnc-business
>> <[2[6]][5[98]][57]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> I am changing Region 1's vote to abstain.
>> I am continuing to think on this and hear back from
more
in my
>> region
>> before finalizing my decision. I am leaning toward
voting
no
>> at
>> this
>> point but will cast a final ballot on Saturday with
>> explanation
>> (our
>> deadline). Please continue discussion as all points
are
>> relevant.
>> RTL
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 11:55 William Redpath via
Lnc-business
>> <[1][3[7]][6[99]][58]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> I vote Yes. Bill Redpath
>> On [8][100]2018-07-09 13:47, [9][101]joshua.smith---
via
Lnc-business
>> wrote:
>> > I vote yes. Given that the delegates were given
the
choice
>> at
>> > convention just a few short days ago, I believe we
should
>> respect
>> that
>> > decision.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Joshua D. Smith
>> >
>> > On [10][102]2018-07-07 22:23, Caryn Ann Harlos via
Lnc-business
>> wrote:
>> >> We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to
the
>> LNC-Business
>> >> list by July 14, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
>> Co-Sponsors:
>> >> Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hagan, Merced, Van
Horn
>> Motion:
>> Move
>> >> that
>> >> the Libertarian National Committee acknowledge
the
>> election
>> of
>> the
>> >> following to the Judicial Committee for a
four-year
>> term:
>> D.
>> Frank
>> >> Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl Perry, Ruth
Bennett,
>> Geoff
>> Neale,
>> >> Jim
>> >> Turney, and Tricia Sprankle. You can keep track
of
the
>> Secretary's
>> >> manual tally of votes here:
>>
>> [1][2][4][11][7][103][59]https://
tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> --
>> >> --
>> >> In Liberty,
>> >> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian
National
>> Committee
>> (Alaska,
>> >> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana,
Utah,
>> Wyoming,
>> >> Washington)
>> >> - [2][12][104]Caryn.Ann.[13][105]
Harlos at LP.org
>> >> Communications Director, [3]Libertarian
Party of
>> Colorado
>> >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>> >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> >> We defend your rights
>> >> And oppose the use of force
>> >> Taxation is theft
>> >>
>> >> References
>> >>
>> >> 1. [3][5][14][8][106][60]https://tiny
url.com/lncvoting
>> >> 2. mailto:[4[15][107]]Caryn.Ann.H
arlos at LP.org
>> >> 3. [5][6][16][9][108][61]http://www.l
pcolorado.org/
>> References
>> 1. mailto:[7[17]][10[109]][62]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 2. [8][18][11][110][63]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>
>> 3. [9][19][12][111][64]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 4. mailto:[10[20][112]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 5. [11][21][13][113][65]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>
>> --
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
Secretary
>> - [12][22][114]Caryn.Ann.[23][115] Harlos at LP.org or[24]
[116] Secretary at LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[25]
[117] LPedia at LP.org
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>>
>> --
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
Secretary
>> - [13][26][118]Caryn.Ann.[27][119] Harlos at LP.org or[28]
[120] Secretary at LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[29]
[121] LPedia at LP.org
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. mailto[30]:[14[122]][66]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> 2. mailto[31]:[15[123]][67]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 3. mailto[32]:[16[124]][68]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 4. [33][17][125][69]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 5. [34][18][126][70]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 6. [35][19][127][71]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 7. mailto[36]:[20[128]][72]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 8. [37][21][129][73]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 9. [38][22][130][74]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 10. mailto[39][131]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 11. [40][23][132][75]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 12. mailto[41][133]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 13. mailto[42][134]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>
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>
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> 4. tel:[138]2018-07-10 20
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> 42. mailto:[176]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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74. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
75. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
76. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
77. mailto::[196]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
78. mailto::[197]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
79. mailto::[198]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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89. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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91. tel:2018-07-11 00
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96. tel:2018-07-10 20
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98. mailto:][211]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
99. mailto:][212]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
100. tel:2018-07-09 13
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102. tel:2018-07-07 22
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116. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
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120. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
121. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
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134. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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158. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
159. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
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162. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
163. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
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178. mailto::[261]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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191. mailto::[274]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
192. mailto::[275]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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203. mailto::[286]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
204. mailto::[287]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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215. [298]http://Caryn.An/
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217. mailto::[300]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
218. mailto::[301]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [309]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
--
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In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [310]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
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