[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-11: ACKNOWLEDGE ELECTION OF JC
Caryn Ann Harlos
caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Wed Jul 11 10:55:20 EDT 2018
John there has been a silencing attempt.
>From the moment I brought these issues up my motives were called into
question insinuating that this was because I did not like the results.
That is a shaming and silencing tactic. You didn’t do it but others have.
And others remained silent while it was done. And it is HIGHLY
inappropriate.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:44 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:
> No John that is not what I’m suggesting. I am stating the fact that we
> kept saying the top five made it indisputably clear that the suspension
> referred to the at-Large only
>
> But I am suggesting a “second ballot” using the results of the first just
> like we would have done “live”
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:34 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
>> Exactly why we need to remedy this the best way we can, not just let it
>> lie. Thank you Erin.
>>
>> Richard
>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018, 07:24 erin.adams--- via Lnc-business
>> <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> With all due respect Sam, that simply isnt true. It is not true that
>> "
>> There is nothing we can do about it
>> at this point except live with it the best we can for two years."
>> and
>> honestly, Im sickened by the tactics Im seeing here from some in an
>> attempt to FURTHER silence others. Its vile at best. Buckle up
>> folks, if
>> this is the tone that sets the way for THIS lnc,Many of you will
>> hate me
>> the end of this term. Alternate or not I WILL NOT be dismissed and
>> silenced.
>> On 2018-07-09 20:09, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
>> > Caryn Ann,
>> >
>> > We all acknowledge that the LNC At Large and JC elections went
>> awry.
>> > There is nothing we can do about it
>> > at this point except live with it the best we can for two years.
>> We
>> > will have a fix in place before the
>> > convention convenes at Austin that can be passed by the delegates
>> and
>> > made effective immediately.
>> >
>> > At the very least, take the discussion off the email ballot thread
>> > which is supposed to just be for recording
>> > votes on the motion.
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Sam Goldstein
>> > Libertarian National Committee
>> > 317-850-0726 Cell
>> >
>> > On 2018-07-09 20:55, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>> >> Oh my goodness. I am sorry but this is beyond belief.
>> >> I think our elections were handled wrongfully and I am
>> supposed to
>> >> NOT
>> >> yell it from the rooftops? What Party am I in again?
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 6:52 PM, John Phillips via Lnc-business
>> >> <[1][2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Agreed, to a point. At some time, preaching to the choir
>> becomes
>> >> counter productive. As noted earlier, we are all aware that
>> it
>> >> sucked, and is a bad situation with no easy fix that will
>> make
>> >> everyone happy immediately. We all want to fix it, and fix
>> it
>> >> yesterday. I even agree with all of Caryn Ann's points, and
>> >> yours.
>> >> Bring it up once a week. Absolutely. Don't bring it up 5
>> times
>> >> a
>> >> day. Stopping multiple times to read the same arguments
>> takes
>> >> away
>> >> time from working on fixing it, and promoting the party in
>> other
>> >> ways. I love the passion, I really do, but beating us up
>> >> continually
>> >> on a point we 90% or more agree on IS counterproductive.
>> Let's
>> >> move
>> >> on and FIX IT.
>> >> Don't shut up, but let's be productive, let's not let this
>> crap
>> >> happen again.
>> >> John Phillips
>> >> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>> >> Cell 217-412-5973
>> >>
>> >> On 7/9/2018 7:39 PM, Craig Bowden via Lnc-business wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Looking out for the membership and delegates is nothing to
>> be
>> >> quiet
>> >> about. I personally hope it is brought up at least once a
>> week
>> >> until
>> >> solutions are in place to prevent it from ever happening
>> again.
>> >> Respectfully,
>> >> Craig Bowden
>> >> Region 1 Alternate
>> >> On 2018-07-09 18:33, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I respectfully decline.
>> >> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 6:29 PM, Sam Goldstein
>> >> <[1][2][3]sam.goldstein at lp.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> Caryn Ann,
>> >> Just shut up about this already!
>> >> Respectfully,
>> >> ---
>> >> Sam Goldstein
>> >> Libertarian National Committee
>> >> 317-850-0726 Cell
>> >> On 2018-07-09 18:34, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>> wrote:
>> >> PS: Before this vote ends, I am going to put something
>> >> together
>> >> to try
>> >> to convince you that this is actually one of the worst
>> ways
>> >> to
>> >> solve.
>> >> My first issue - that of steering the delegates down
>> that
>> >> road
>> >> with
>> >> at-large is unsolvable- at least unsolvable in any way
>> that
>> >> we
>> >> would
>> >> ever do. If it were up to me, I would punt it all
>> back to
>> >> the
>> >> delegates.
>> >> The second issue - of how to handle this situation
>> with the
>> >> JC
>> >> -
>> >> well
>> >> we are trying to solve it now and I think we are
>> solving it
>> >> wrong
>> >> both
>> >> ethically and procedurally.
>> >> And a remaining issue - is one where me and RONR come
>> into
>> >> conflict.
>> >> Rules are tools. Just because a rule allows something
>> >> doesn't
>> >> mean
>> >> it
>> >> is right, and this is probably why the first issue is
>> >> sticking
>> >> in my
>> >> craw so badly. It is fundamentally NOT RIGHT to
>> change the
>> >> rules of
>> >> an
>> >> election mid-way. There is a huge difference between
>> >> majority
>> >> and
>> >> plurality and our candidates deserve to know as it
>> effects
>> >> the
>> >> way
>> >> they
>> >> campaign. We treated them and their efforts as pawns,
>> and
>> >> it
>> >> isn't
>> >> right.
>> >> I know some of you are thinking, just shut up about
>> this
>> >> already.
>> >> Well, I am a hard-nose on some things, and this is one
>> of
>> >> them.
>> >> Just
>> >> like it was with the eternal secrecy clause last term.
>> >> The only way we are going to learn as an organization
>> is if
>> >> this is
>> >> a
>> >> bit painful. And in so doing we will model
>> over-the-top
>> >> integrity
>> >> to
>> >> our members rather than political expediency.
>> >> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >> <[1][2][3][4]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>> >> ==I get the anger. I'm angry. When we ultimately do
>> get the
>> >> state-by-state tallies, I'm sure we'll find that
>> hundreds
>> >> of
>> >> delegates
>> >> didn't even vote in the two races because we put them
>> off
>> >> so
>> >> long.
>> >> In
>> >> the 2016 convention, whole states didn't cast votes in
>> the
>> >> At-Large
>> >> and
>> >> JC races. Them's the rules - elections are won by
>> those who
>> >> stay and
>> >> vote - but oh my did we make it hard. The combination
>> of
>> >> voting
>> >> methodology, tabulation method, and scheduling left us
>> in a
>> >> bad
>> >> place.===
>> >> You mean we ran in front of a racing car and now are
>> >> surprised
>> >> we
>> >> got
>> >> ran over?
>> >> But it is more than that. The delegates were led to
>> make a
>> >> decision
>> >> in
>> >> a certain direction. There WERE other options.
>> Whether or
>> >> not one
>> >> agrees with the voting methodology, it is the
>> methodology
>> >> and
>> >> its
>> >> intent was to use approval voting to show approval and
>> we
>> >> turned it
>> >> on
>> >> its head. Why weren't the delegates given other
>> options?
>> >> ==All that said, I don't want to just be angry and
>> >> complain.
>> >> As far
>> >> as
>> >> actions that can be taken, this resolution is the most
>> >> reasonable.
>> >> Other possibilities - revotes or mail votes of all
>> Party
>> >> members or
>> >> us
>> >> filling the JC seats or setting multiple JCs in motion
>> -
>> >> are
>> >> even
>> >> more
>> >> violative of the Bylaws and Rules.==
>> >> Are they all? I don't think so. And I do think my
>> very
>> >> real
>> >> complaint
>> >> of how the delegates were steered in a certain
>> direction is
>> >> being
>> >> ignored at best (or maligned at worst).
>> >> ==The contrary view admittedly rests on a thread of
>> >> legality:
>> >> the
>> >> delegates expressed their wish to take the top
>> at-large
>> >> candidates
>> >> and
>> >> the Bylaws say the same applies for the JC. There's
>> also no
>> >> doubt in
>> >> my
>> >> mind that had they been asked they would have done the
>> same
>> >> for the
>> >> JC.
>> >> A room of several hundred Libertarians were not
>> coerced
>> >> into
>> >> doing
>> >> that
>> >> - they went with what Nick suggested because that's
>> what
>> >> they
>> >> wanted
>> >> to
>> >> do. He just told them how.===
>> >> And that is where the dispute is. Most of the people
>> there
>> >> trusted
>> >> us
>> >> (I use us as Nick was acting as the spokesperson of
>> the LNC
>> >> and this
>> >> isn't about Nick ultimately) not to tell them what
>> they
>> >> wanted.
>> >> They
>> >> were presented with two choices in which they were led
>> down
>> >> a
>> >> particular path. You are an attorney Joe, you know
>> exactly
>> >> what I
>> >> am
>> >> getting at here.
>> >> Do you really think that if they were offered a
>> majority
>> >> rising vote
>> >> on
>> >> the spot to choose between options they would not have
>> >> taken
>> >> that?
>> >> It
>> >> never ocurred to most of them that there WERE any
>> other
>> >> options. It
>> >> didn't immediately occur to me and I am well-versed in
>> this
>> >> stuff.
>> >> It
>> >> stinks. If a government acted this way we would be
>> all
>> >> lathered up.
>> >> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Joe Bishop-Henchman
>> >> <[2][3][4][5]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org> wrote:
>> >> I get the anger. I'm angry. When we ultimately do
>> get the
>> >> state-by-state tallies, I'm sure we'll find that
>> hundreds
>> >> of
>> >> delegates didn't even vote in the two races because
>> we
>> >> put
>> >> them
>> >> off
>> >> so long. In the 2016 convention, whole states didn't
>> cast
>> >> votes in
>> >> the At-Large and JC races. Them's the rules -
>> elections
>> >> are
>> >> won by
>> >> those who stay and vote - but oh my did we make it
>> hard.
>> >> The
>> >> combination of voting methodology, tabulation
>> method, and
>> >> scheduling
>> >> left us in a bad place.
>> >> All that said, I don't want to just be angry and
>> >> complain.
>> >> As far
>> >> as
>> >> actions that can be taken, this resolution is the
>> most
>> >> reasonable.
>> >> Other possibilities - revotes or mail votes of all
>> Party
>> >> members
>> >> or
>> >> us filling the JC seats or setting multiple JCs in
>> motion
>> >> -
>> >> are
>> >> even
>> >> more violative of the Bylaws and Rules.
>> >> I do not dispute that one can reasonably argue that
>> every
>> >> JC
>> >> candidate was disapproved and that it should sit
>> empty
>> >> until
>> >> 2022.
>> >> The contrary view admittedly rests on a thread of
>> >> legality:
>> >> the
>> >> delegates expressed their wish to take the top
>> at-large
>> >> candidates
>> >> and the Bylaws say the same applies for the JC.
>> There's
>> >> also
>> >> no
>> >> doubt in my mind that had they been asked they would
>> have
>> >> done the
>> >> same for the JC. A room of several hundred
>> Libertarians
>> >> were
>> >> not
>> >> coerced into doing that - they went with what Nick
>> >> suggested
>> >> because
>> >> that's what they wanted to do. He just told them
>> how.
>> >> They
>> >> didn't
>> >> want the LNC fighting over who would fill the seats
>> if
>> >> they
>> >> were
>> >> left vacant.
>> >> I doubt I'm going to convince you but I did want to
>> write
>> >> this to
>> >> emphasize that at least I am not sanguine or
>> sweeping
>> >> anything
>> >> blithely under the rug. I expect rethinking how we
>> do
>> >> elections
>> >> will
>> >> be a big priority for many of us.
>> >> JBH
>> >> On 2018-07-09 16:46, Caryn Ann Harlos via
>> Lnc-business
>> >> wrote:
>> >> Suspension of the rules has to be specific and there
>> is
>> >> no
>> >> way
>> >> around
>> >> the fact that we used the number 5 over and over.
>> >> This is taking things to an even deeper level of
>> >> improper. I
>> >> object to
>> >> the whole at-Large process- I don’t think the
>> >> delegates
>> >> made an
>> >> independent choice and now to just infer this
>> upon
>> >> that
>> >> is two
>> >> bridges
>> >> too far.
>> >> This is a big screwup and I won’t be part of
>> sweeping
>> >> it
>> >> under
>> >> the rug.
>> >> It alarms me to no end how blithely the whole
>> >> situation
>> >> is
>> >> being
>> >> taken.
>> >> There are people looking at us and seeing nothing
>> >> different
>> >> than
>> >> the
>> >> government we wish to reform.
>> >> There was a controversial election and at least
>> one
>> >> state
>> >> chair
>> >> and
>> >> candidate has been asking for the state by state
>> >> rallies
>> >> with
>> >> no
>> >> time
>> >> frame given him.
>> >> The whole thing was an affront to people
>> expecting an
>> >> entirely
>> >> different thing when they ran. I will not be
>> sanguine
>> >> about
>> >> it.
>> >> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 2:20 PM Whitney Bilyeu
>> >> <[1][3][4][5][6]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org> wrote:
>> >> This point did come up immediately after
>> >> adjournment,
>> >> while
>> >> Nick
>> >> was
>> >> still at the mic. I don't recall who brought it
>> up,
>> >> but
>> >> the
>> >> statement
>> >> was made that it would follow the same
>> procedure as
>> >> At-Large
>> >> at
>> >> that
>> >> point, since we were no longer in session.
>> >> No one raised the question prior to that.
>> >> Whitney Bilyeu
>> >> Region 7 Representative
>> >> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Caryn Ann
>> Harlos via
>> >> Lnc-business
>> >> <[2][4][5][6][7]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >> Joshua they were not given a choice on
>> this.
>> >> The
>> >> JC
>> >> never
>> >> came
>> >> up.
>> >> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:47 AM
>> >> <[1][3][5][6][7][8]joshua.smith at lp.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> I vote yes. Given that the delegates were
>> given
>> >> the
>> >> choice
>> >> at
>> >> convention
>> >> just a few short days ago, I believe we
>> should
>> >> respect
>> >> that
>> >> decision.
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Joshua D. Smith
>> >> On 2018-07-07 22:23, Caryn Ann Harlos via
>> >> Lnc-business
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes
>> are
>> >> due
>> >> to the
>> >> LNC-Business
>> >> > list by July 14, 2018 at 11:59:59pm
>> Pacific
>> >> time.
>> >> Co-Sponsors:
>> >> > Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hagan,
>> Merced,
>> >> Van
>> >> Horn
>> >> Motion:
>> >> Move
>> >> > that
>> >> > the Libertarian National Committee
>> >> acknowledge
>> >> the
>> >> election of
>> >> the
>> >> > following to the Judicial Committee for
>> a
>> >> four-year
>> >> term:
>> >> D.
>> >> Frank
>> >> > Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl Perry,
>> Ruth
>> >> Bennett,
>> >> Geoff
>> >> Neale,
>> >> > Jim
>> >> > Turney, and Tricia Sprankle. You can
>> keep
>> >> track
>> >> of
>> >> the
>> >> Secretary's
>> >> > manual tally of votes here:
>> >>
>> [1][2][4][6][7][8][9]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> > --
>> >> > --
>> >> > In Liberty,
>> >> > Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >> > Region 1 Representative,
>> Libertarian
>> >> National
>> >> Committee
>> >> (Alaska,
>> >> > Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
>> >> Montana,
>> >> Utah,
>> >> Wyoming,
>> >> > Washington)
>> >> > - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>> >> > Communications Director,
>> [3]Libertarian
>> >> Party of
>> >> Colorado
>> >> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation
>> >> Committee
>> >> > A haiku to the Statement of
>> Principles:
>> >> > We defend your rights
>> >> > And oppose the use of force
>> >> > Taxation is theft
>> >> >
>> >> > References
>> >> >
>> >> > 1.
>> [3][5][7][8][9][10]https://tinyurl.co
>> >> m/lncvoting
>> >> > 2.
>> mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> > 3.
>> [5][6][8][9][10][11]http://www.lpcolor
>> >> [12]ado.org/
>> >> --
>> >> --
>> >> In Liberty,
>> >> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
>> >> Committee
>> >> Secretary
>> >> - [6]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>> >> Secretary at LP.org.
>> >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation
>> Committee -
>> >> LPedia at LP.org
>> >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> >> We defend your rights
>> >> And oppose the use of force
>> >> Taxation is theft
>> >> References
>> >> 1.
>> mailto:[7][9][10][11][13]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 2.
>> [8][10][11][12][14]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 3.
>> [9][11][12][13][15]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 4. mailto:[10]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> 5.
>> [11][12][13][14][16]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 6. mailto:[12]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> --
>> >> --
>> >> In Liberty,
>> >> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
>> Committee
>> >> Secretary
>> >> - [13]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>> Secretary at LP.org.
>> >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>> >> LPedia at LP.org
>> >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> >> We defend your rights
>> >> And oppose the use of force
>> >> Taxation is theft
>> >> References
>> >> 1. mailto:[13][14][15][17]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >> 2.
>> mailto:[14][15][16][18]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >> 3. mailto:[15][16][17][19]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 4.
>> [16][17][18][20]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 5.
>> [17][18][19][21]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 6. [18][19][20][22]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 7. mailto:[19][20][21][23]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 8.
>> [20][21][22][24]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 9.
>> [21][22][23][25]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 10. mailto:[22]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> 11. [23][23][24][26]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 12. mailto:[24]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> 13. mailto:[25]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> --
>> >> JBH
>> >> ------------
>> >> Joe Bishop-Henchman
>> >> LNC Member (At-Large)
>> >> [26][24][25][27]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >>
>> [27][25][26][28]www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> >> --
>> >> --
>> >> In Liberty,
>> >> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>> >> Secretary
>> >> - [28]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>> >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>> >> LPedia at LP.org
>> >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> >> We defend your rights
>> >> And oppose the use of force
>> >> Taxation is theft
>> >> --
>> >> --
>> >> In Liberty,
>> >> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>> >> Secretary
>> >> - [29]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>> >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>> >> LPedia at LP.org
>> >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> >> We defend your rights
>> >> And oppose the use of force
>> >> Taxation is theft
>> >> References
>> >> 1. mailto:[26][27][29]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> >> 2. mailto:[27][28][30]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >> 3. mailto:[28][29][31]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >> 4. mailto:[29][30][32]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >> 5. mailto:[30][31][33]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 6. [31][32][34]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 7. [32][33][35]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 8. [33][34][36]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 9. mailto:[34][35][37]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 10. [35][36][38]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 11. [36][37][39]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 12. [37][38][40]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 13. mailto:[38][39][41]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >> 14. mailto:[39][40][42]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >> 15. mailto:[40][41][43]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 16. [41][42][44]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 17. [42][43][45]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 18. [43][44][46]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 19. mailto:[44][45][47]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 20. [45][46][48]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 21. [46][47][49]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 22. mailto:[47]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> 23. [48][48][50]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 24. mailto:[49]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> 25. mailto:[50]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> 26. mailto:[51][49][51]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >> 27.
>> [52][50][52]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> >> 28. mailto:[53]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> 29. mailto:[54]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> --
>> >> --
>> >> In Liberty,
>> >> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>> Secretary
>> >> - [55]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>> >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>> LPedia at LP.org
>> >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> >> We defend your rights
>> >> And oppose the use of force
>> >> Taxation is theft
>> >> References
>> >> 1. mailto:[51][53]sam.goldstein at lp.org
>> >> 2. mailto:[52][54]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> >> 3. mailto:[53][55]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >> 4. mailto:[54][56]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >> 5. mailto:[55][57]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >> 6. mailto:[56][58]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 7. [57][59]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 8. [58][60]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 9. [59][61]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 10. mailto:[60][62]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 11. [61][63]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 12. [62][64]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 13. [63][65]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 14. mailto:[64][66]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >> 15. mailto:[65][67]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >> 16. mailto:[66][68]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 17. [67][69]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 18. [68][70]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 19. [69][71]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 20. mailto:[70][72]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 21. [71][73]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 22. [72][74]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 23. [73][75]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 24. mailto:[74][76]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >> 25. [75][77]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> >> 26. mailto:[76][78]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> >> 27. mailto:[77][79]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >> 28. mailto:[78][80]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >> 29. mailto:[79][81]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >> 30. mailto:[80][82]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 31. [81][83]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 32. [82][84]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 33. [83][85]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 34. mailto:[84][86]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 35. [85][87]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 36. [86][88]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 37. [87][89]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 38. mailto:[88][90]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >> 39. mailto:[89][91]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >> 40. mailto:[90][92]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 41. [91][93]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 42. [92][94]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 43. [93][95]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 44. mailto:[94][96]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 45. [95][97]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 46. [96][98]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 47. mailto:[97]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> 48. [98][99]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 49. mailto:[99]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> 50. mailto:[100]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> 51. mailto:[101][100]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >> 52.
>> [102][101]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> >> 53. mailto:[103]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> 54. mailto:[104]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> 55. mailto:[105]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> --
>> >> In Liberty,
>> >> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>> >> - [106]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>> >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>> >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> >> We defend your rights
>> >> And oppose the use of force
>> >> Taxation is theft
>> >>
>> >> References
>> >>
>> >> 1. mailto:[102]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >> 2. mailto:[103]sam.goldstein at lp.org
>> >> 3. mailto:[104]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> >> 4. mailto:[105]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >> 5. mailto:[106]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >> 6. mailto:[107]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >> 7. mailto:[108]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 8. [109]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 9. [110]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 10. [111]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 11. mailto:[112]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 12. [113]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 13. [114]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 14. [115]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 15. mailto:[116]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >> 16. mailto:[117]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >> 17. mailto:[118]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 18. [119]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 19. [120]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 20. [121]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 21. mailto:[122]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 22. [123]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 23. [124]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 24. [125]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 25. mailto:[126]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >> 26. [127]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> >> 27. mailto:[128]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> >> 28. mailto:[129]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >> 29. mailto:[130]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >> 30. mailto:[131]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >> 31. mailto:[132]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 32. [133]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 33. [134]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 34. [135]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 35. mailto:[136]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 36. [137]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 37. [138]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 38. [139]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 39. mailto:[140]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >> 40. mailto:[141]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >> 41. mailto:[142]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 42. [143]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 43. [144]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 44. [145]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 45. mailto:[146]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 46. [147]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 47. [148]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 48. [149]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 49. mailto:[150]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >> 50. [151]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> >> 51. mailto:[152]sam.goldstein at lp.org
>> >> 52. mailto:[153]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> >> 53. mailto:[154]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >> 54. mailto:[155]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >> 55. mailto:[156]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >> 56. mailto:[157]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 57. [158]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 58. [159]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 59. [160]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 60. mailto:[161]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 61. [162]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 62. [163]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 63. [164]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 64. mailto:[165]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >> 65. mailto:[166]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >> 66. mailto:[167]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 67. [168]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 68. [169]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 69. [170]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 70. mailto:[171]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 71. [172]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 72. [173]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 73. [174]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 74. mailto:[175]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >> 75. [176]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> >> 76. mailto:[177]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> >> 77. mailto:[178]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >> 78. mailto:[179]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >> 79. mailto:[180]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >> 80. mailto:[181]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 81. [182]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 82. [183]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 83. [184]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 84. mailto:[185]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 85. [186]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 86. [187]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 87. [188]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 88. mailto:[189]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> >> 89. mailto:[190]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> >> 90. mailto:[191]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 91. [192]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 92. [193]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 93. [194]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 94. mailto:[195]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> >> 95. [196]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 96. [197]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> >> 97. mailto:[198]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> 98. [199]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >> 99. mailto:[200]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> 100. mailto:[201]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> 101. mailto:[202]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >> 102. [203]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> >> 103. mailto:[204]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> 104. mailto:[205]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> 105. mailto:[206]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >> 106. mailto:[207]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>
>> --
>>
>> Richard Longstreth
>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
>> Libertarian National Committee
>> [208]richard.longstreth at lp.org
>> 931.538.9300
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 3. mailto:sam.goldstein at lp.org
>> 4. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> 5. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> 6. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> 7. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 8. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 9. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 10. https://tinyurl.co/
>> 11. http://www.lpcolor/
>> 12. http://ado.org/
>> 13. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 14. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 15. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 16. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 17. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> 18. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 19. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 20. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 21. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 22. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 23. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 24. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 25. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 26. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 27. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> 28. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> 29. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> 30. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> 31. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> 32. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 33. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 34. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 35. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 36. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 37. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 38. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 39. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 40. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 41. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> 42. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 43. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 44. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 45. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 46. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 47. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 48. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 49. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 50. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 51. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> 52. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> 53. mailto:sam.goldstein at lp.org
>> 54. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> 55. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> 56. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> 57. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 58. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 59. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 60. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 61. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 62. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 63. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 64. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 65. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 66. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> 67. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 68. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 69. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 70. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 71. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 72. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 73. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 74. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 75. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 76. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> 77. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> 78. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> 79. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> 80. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> 81. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 82. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 83. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 84. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 85. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 86. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 87. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 88. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 89. <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>
> --
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
--
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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John there has been a silencing attempt.
From the moment I brought these issues up my motives were called into
question insinuating that this was because I did not like the results.
That is a shaming and silencing tactic. You didn’t do it but others
have. And others remained silent while it was done. And it is HIGHLY
inappropriate.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:44 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
<[1]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
No John that is not what I’m suggesting. I am stating the fact that we
kept saying the top five made it indisputably clear that the suspension
referred to the at-Large only
But I am suggesting a “second ballot” using the results of the first
just like we would have done “live”
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:34 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business
<[2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
Exactly why we need to remedy this the best way we can, not just
let it
lie. Thank you Erin.
Richard
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018, 07:24 erin.adams--- via Lnc-business
<[1][3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
With all due respect Sam, that simply isnt true. It is not true
that
"
There is nothing we can do about it
at this point except live with it the best we can for two
years."
and
honestly, Im sickened by the tactics Im seeing here from some
in an
attempt to FURTHER silence others. Its vile at best. Buckle up
folks, if
this is the tone that sets the way for THIS lnc,Many of you
will
hate me
the end of this term. Alternate or not I WILL NOT be dismissed
and
silenced.
On 2018-07-09 20:09, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
> Caryn Ann,
>
> We all acknowledge that the LNC At Large and JC elections
went
awry.
> There is nothing we can do about it
> at this point except live with it the best we can for two
years.
We
> will have a fix in place before the
> convention convenes at Austin that can be passed by the
delegates
and
> made effective immediately.
>
> At the very least, take the discussion off the email ballot
thread
> which is supposed to just be for recording
> votes on the motion.
>
> ---
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> 317-850-0726 Cell
>
> On 2018-07-09 20:55, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>> Oh my goodness. I am sorry but this is beyond belief.
>> I think our elections were handled wrongfully and I am
supposed to
>> NOT
>> yell it from the rooftops? What Party am I in again?
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 6:52 PM, John Phillips via
Lnc-business
>> <[1][2][4]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> Agreed, to a point. At some time, preaching to the
choir
becomes
>> counter productive. As noted earlier, we are all aware
that
it
>> sucked, and is a bad situation with no easy fix that
will
make
>> everyone happy immediately. We all want to fix it, and
fix
it
>> yesterday. I even agree with all of Caryn Ann's
points, and
>> yours.
>> Bring it up once a week. Absolutely. Don't bring it
up 5
times
>> a
>> day. Stopping multiple times to read the same arguments
takes
>> away
>> time from working on fixing it, and promoting the party
in
other
>> ways. I love the passion, I really do, but beating us
up
>> continually
>> on a point we 90% or more agree on IS
counterproductive.
Let's
>> move
>> on and FIX IT.
>> Don't shut up, but let's be productive, let's not let
this
crap
>> happen again.
>> John Phillips
>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>> Cell 217-412-5973
>>
>> On 7/9/2018 7:39 PM, Craig Bowden via Lnc-business wrote:
>>
>> Looking out for the membership and delegates is nothing
to
be
>> quiet
>> about. I personally hope it is brought up at least once
a
week
>> until
>> solutions are in place to prevent it from ever
happening
again.
>> Respectfully,
>> Craig Bowden
>> Region 1 Alternate
>> On 2018-07-09 18:33, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
wrote:
>>
>> I respectfully decline.
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 6:29 PM, Sam Goldstein
>> <[1][2][3][5]sam.goldstein at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>> Caryn Ann,
>> Just shut up about this already!
>> Respectfully,
>> ---
>> Sam Goldstein
>> Libertarian National Committee
>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>> On 2018-07-09 18:34, Caryn Ann Harlos via
Lnc-business
wrote:
>> PS: Before this vote ends, I am going to put
something
>> together
>> to try
>> to convince you that this is actually one of the
worst
ways
>> to
>> solve.
>> My first issue - that of steering the delegates
down
that
>> road
>> with
>> at-large is unsolvable- at least unsolvable in
any way
that
>> we
>> would
>> ever do. If it were up to me, I would punt it
all
back to
>> the
>> delegates.
>> The second issue - of how to handle this
situation
with the
>> JC
>> -
>> well
>> we are trying to solve it now and I think we are
solving it
>> wrong
>> both
>> ethically and procedurally.
>> And a remaining issue - is one where me and RONR
come
into
>> conflict.
>> Rules are tools. Just because a rule allows
something
>> doesn't
>> mean
>> it
>> is right, and this is probably why the first
issue is
>> sticking
>> in my
>> craw so badly. It is fundamentally NOT RIGHT to
change the
>> rules of
>> an
>> election mid-way. There is a huge difference
between
>> majority
>> and
>> plurality and our candidates deserve to know as
it
effects
>> the
>> way
>> they
>> campaign. We treated them and their efforts as
pawns,
and
>> it
>> isn't
>> right.
>> I know some of you are thinking, just shut up
about
this
>> already.
>> Well, I am a hard-nose on some things, and this
is one
of
>> them.
>> Just
>> like it was with the eternal secrecy clause last
term.
>> The only way we are going to learn as an
organization
is if
>> this is
>> a
>> bit painful. And in so doing we will model
over-the-top
>> integrity
>> to
>> our members rather than political expediency.
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>> <[1][2][3][4][6]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>> ==I get the anger. I'm angry. When we ultimately
do
get the
>> state-by-state tallies, I'm sure we'll find that
hundreds
>> of
>> delegates
>> didn't even vote in the two races because we put
them
off
>> so
>> long.
>> In
>> the 2016 convention, whole states didn't cast
votes in
the
>> At-Large
>> and
>> JC races. Them's the rules - elections are won by
those who
>> stay and
>> vote - but oh my did we make it hard. The
combination
of
>> voting
>> methodology, tabulation method, and scheduling
left us
in a
>> bad
>> place.===
>> You mean we ran in front of a racing car and now
are
>> surprised
>> we
>> got
>> ran over?
>> But it is more than that. The delegates were led
to
make a
>> decision
>> in
>> a certain direction. There WERE other options.
Whether or
>> not one
>> agrees with the voting methodology, it is the
methodology
>> and
>> its
>> intent was to use approval voting to show
approval and
we
>> turned it
>> on
>> its head. Why weren't the delegates given other
options?
>> ==All that said, I don't want to just be angry
and
>> complain.
>> As far
>> as
>> actions that can be taken, this resolution is the
most
>> reasonable.
>> Other possibilities - revotes or mail votes of
all
Party
>> members or
>> us
>> filling the JC seats or setting multiple JCs in
motion
-
>> are
>> even
>> more
>> violative of the Bylaws and Rules.==
>> Are they all? I don't think so. And I do think
my
very
>> real
>> complaint
>> of how the delegates were steered in a certain
direction is
>> being
>> ignored at best (or maligned at worst).
>> ==The contrary view admittedly rests on a thread
of
>> legality:
>> the
>> delegates expressed their wish to take the top
at-large
>> candidates
>> and
>> the Bylaws say the same applies for the JC.
There's
also no
>> doubt in
>> my
>> mind that had they been asked they would have
done the
same
>> for the
>> JC.
>> A room of several hundred Libertarians were not
coerced
>> into
>> doing
>> that
>> - they went with what Nick suggested because
that's
what
>> they
>> wanted
>> to
>> do. He just told them how.===
>> And that is where the dispute is. Most of the
people
there
>> trusted
>> us
>> (I use us as Nick was acting as the spokesperson
of
the LNC
>> and this
>> isn't about Nick ultimately) not to tell them
what
they
>> wanted.
>> They
>> were presented with two choices in which they
were led
down
>> a
>> particular path. You are an attorney Joe, you
know
exactly
>> what I
>> am
>> getting at here.
>> Do you really think that if they were offered a
majority
>> rising vote
>> on
>> the spot to choose between options they would not
have
>> taken
>> that?
>> It
>> never ocurred to most of them that there WERE any
other
>> options. It
>> didn't immediately occur to me and I am
well-versed in
this
>> stuff.
>> It
>> stinks. If a government acted this way we would
be
all
>> lathered up.
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Joe
Bishop-Henchman
>> <[2][3][4][5][7]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org>
wrote:
>> I get the anger. I'm angry. When we ultimately
do
get the
>> state-by-state tallies, I'm sure we'll find
that
hundreds
>> of
>> delegates didn't even vote in the two races
because
we
>> put
>> them
>> off
>> so long. In the 2016 convention, whole states
didn't
cast
>> votes in
>> the At-Large and JC races. Them's the rules -
elections
>> are
>> won by
>> those who stay and vote - but oh my did we make
it
hard.
>> The
>> combination of voting methodology, tabulation
method, and
>> scheduling
>> left us in a bad place.
>> All that said, I don't want to just be angry
and
>> complain.
>> As far
>> as
>> actions that can be taken, this resolution is
the
most
>> reasonable.
>> Other possibilities - revotes or mail votes of
all
Party
>> members
>> or
>> us filling the JC seats or setting multiple JCs
in
motion
>> -
>> are
>> even
>> more violative of the Bylaws and Rules.
>> I do not dispute that one can reasonably argue
that
every
>> JC
>> candidate was disapproved and that it should
sit
empty
>> until
>> 2022.
>> The contrary view admittedly rests on a thread
of
>> legality:
>> the
>> delegates expressed their wish to take the top
at-large
>> candidates
>> and the Bylaws say the same applies for the JC.
There's
>> also
>> no
>> doubt in my mind that had they been asked they
would
have
>> done the
>> same for the JC. A room of several hundred
Libertarians
>> were
>> not
>> coerced into doing that - they went with what
Nick
>> suggested
>> because
>> that's what they wanted to do. He just told
them
how.
>> They
>> didn't
>> want the LNC fighting over who would fill the
seats
if
>> they
>> were
>> left vacant.
>> I doubt I'm going to convince you but I did
want to
write
>> this to
>> emphasize that at least I am not sanguine or
sweeping
>> anything
>> blithely under the rug. I expect rethinking how
we
do
>> elections
>> will
>> be a big priority for many of us.
>> JBH
>> On 2018-07-09 16:46, Caryn Ann Harlos via
Lnc-business
>> wrote:
>> Suspension of the rules has to be specific and
there
is
>> no
>> way
>> around
>> the fact that we used the number 5 over and
over.
>> This is taking things to an even deeper
level of
>> improper. I
>> object to
>> the whole at-Large process- I don’t think
the
>> delegates
>> made an
>> independent choice and now to just infer
this
upon
>> that
>> is two
>> bridges
>> too far.
>> This is a big screwup and I won’t be part of
sweeping
>> it
>> under
>> the rug.
>> It alarms me to no end how blithely the
whole
>> situation
>> is
>> being
>> taken.
>> There are people looking at us and seeing
nothing
>> different
>> than
>> the
>> government we wish to reform.
>> There was a controversial election and at
least
one
>> state
>> chair
>> and
>> candidate has been asking for the state by
state
>> rallies
>> with
>> no
>> time
>> frame given him.
>> The whole thing was an affront to people
expecting an
>> entirely
>> different thing when they ran. I will not
be
sanguine
>> about
>> it.
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 2:20 PM Whitney
Bilyeu
>> <[1][3][4][5][6][8]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org>
wrote:
>> This point did come up immediately after
>> adjournment,
>> while
>> Nick
>> was
>> still at the mic. I don't recall who
brought it
up,
>> but
>> the
>> statement
>> was made that it would follow the same
procedure as
>> At-Large
>> at
>> that
>> point, since we were no longer in session.
>> No one raised the question prior to that.
>> Whitney Bilyeu
>> Region 7 Representative
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Caryn Ann
Harlos via
>> Lnc-business
>> <[2][4][5][6][7][9]lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
wrote:
>> Joshua they were not given a choice
on
this.
>> The
>> JC
>> never
>> came
>> up.
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:47 AM
>> <[1][3][5][6][7][8][10]joshua.smith at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>> I vote yes. Given that the delegates
were
given
>> the
>> choice
>> at
>> convention
>> just a few short days ago, I believe we
should
>> respect
>> that
>> decision.
>> Thanks,
>> Joshua D. Smith
>> On 2018-07-07 22:23, Caryn Ann Harlos
via
>> Lnc-business
>> wrote:
>> > We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes
are
>> due
>> to the
>> LNC-Business
>> > list by July 14, 2018 at
11:59:59pm
Pacific
>> time.
>> Co-Sponsors:
>> > Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hagan,
Merced,
>> Van
>> Horn
>> Motion:
>> Move
>> > that
>> > the Libertarian National Committee
>> acknowledge
>> the
>> election of
>> the
>> > following to the Judicial
Committee for
a
>> four-year
>> term:
>> D.
>> Frank
>> > Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl
Perry,
Ruth
>> Bennett,
>> Geoff
>> Neale,
>> > Jim
>> > Turney, and Tricia Sprankle. You
can
keep
>> track
>> of
>> the
>> Secretary's
>> > manual tally of votes here:
>>
[1][2][4][6][7][8][9][11]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> > --
>> > --
>> > In Liberty,
>> > Caryn Ann Harlos
>> > Region 1 Representative,
Libertarian
>> National
>> Committee
>> (Alaska,
>> > Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii,
Kansas,
>> Montana,
>> Utah,
>> Wyoming,
>> > Washington)
>> > - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>> > Communications Director,
[3]Libertarian
>> Party of
>> Colorado
>> > Chair, LP Historical
Preservation
>> Committee
>> > A haiku to the Statement of
Principles:
>> > We defend your rights
>> > And oppose the use of force
>> > Taxation is theft
>> >
>> > References
>> >
>> > 1.
[3][5][7][8][9][10][12]https://tinyurl.co
>> m/lncvoting
>> > 2.
mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> > 3.
[5][6][8][9][10][11][13]http://www.lpcolor
>> [12][14]ado.org/
>> --
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian
National
>> Committee
>> Secretary
>> - [6]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>> Secretary at LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation
Committee -
>> LPedia at LP.org
>> A haiku to the Statement of
Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>> References
>> 1.
mailto:[7][9][10][11][13][15]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 2.
[8][10][11][12][14][16]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 3.
[9][11][12][13][15][17]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 4. mailto:[10]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 5.
[11][12][13][14][16][18]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 6. mailto:[12]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> --
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
Committee
>> Secretary
>> - [13]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
Secretary at LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation
Committee -
>> LPedia at LP.org
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>> References
>> 1.
mailto:[13][14][15][17][19]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> 2.
mailto:[14][15][16][18][20]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 3.
mailto:[15][16][17][19][21]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 4.
[16][17][18][20][22]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 5.
[17][18][19][21][23]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 6.
[18][19][20][22][24]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 7.
mailto:[19][20][21][23][25]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 8.
[20][21][22][24][26]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 9.
[21][22][23][25][27]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 10. mailto:[22]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 11.
[23][23][24][26][28]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 12. mailto:[24]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 13. mailto:[25]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> --
>> JBH
>> ------------
>> Joe Bishop-Henchman
>> LNC Member (At-Large)
>> [26][24][25][27][29]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>
[27][25][26][28][30]www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> --
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
Committee
>> Secretary
>> - [28]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
Secretary at LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>> LPedia at LP.org
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>> --
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
Committee
>> Secretary
>> - [29]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
Secretary at LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>> LPedia at LP.org
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>> References
>> 1.
mailto:[26][27][29][31]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> 2.
mailto:[27][28][30][32]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> 3. mailto:[28][29][31][33]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> 4.
mailto:[29][30][32][34]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 5. mailto:[30][31][33][35]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 6.
[31][32][34][36]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 7.
[32][33][35][37]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 8. [33][34][36][38]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 9. mailto:[34][35][37][39]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 10.
[35][36][38][40]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 11.
[36][37][39][41]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 12. [37][38][40][42]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 13. mailto:[38][39][41][43]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> 14.
mailto:[39][40][42][44]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 15. mailto:[40][41][43][45]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 16.
[41][42][44][46]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 17.
[42][43][45][47]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 18. [43][44][46][48]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 19. mailto:[44][45][47][49]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 20.
[45][46][48][50]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 21.
[46][47][49][51]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 22. mailto:[47]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 23. [48][48][50][52]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 24. mailto:[49]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 25. mailto:[50]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 26.
mailto:[51][49][51][53]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> 27.
[52][50][52][54]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> 28. mailto:[53]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 29. mailto:[54]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> --
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
Secretary
>> - [55]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
LPedia at LP.org
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>> References
>> 1. mailto:[51][53][55]sam.goldstein at lp.org
>> 2. mailto:[52][54][56]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> 3. mailto:[53][55][57]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> 4. mailto:[54][56][58]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> 5. mailto:[55][57][59]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 6. mailto:[56][58][60]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 7. [57][59][61]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 8. [58][60][62]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 9. [59][61][63]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 10. mailto:[60][62][64]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 11. [61][63][65]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 12. [62][64][66]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 13. [63][65][67]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 14. mailto:[64][66][68]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> 15. mailto:[65][67][69]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 16. mailto:[66][68][70]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 17. [67][69][71]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 18. [68][70][72]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 19. [69][71][73]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 20. mailto:[70][72][74]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 21. [71][73][75]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 22. [72][74][76]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 23. [73][75][77]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 24. mailto:[74][76][78]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> 25.
[75][77][79]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> 26. mailto:[76][78][80]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> 27. mailto:[77][79][81]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> 28. mailto:[78][80][82]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> 29. mailto:[79][81][83]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 30. mailto:[80][82][84]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 31. [81][83][85]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 32. [82][84][86]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 33. [83][85][87]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 34. mailto:[84][86][88]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 35. [85][87][89]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 36. [86][88][90]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 37. [87][89][91]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 38. mailto:[88][90][92]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> 39. mailto:[89][91][93]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 40. mailto:[90][92][94]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 41. [91][93][95]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 42. [92][94][96]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 43. [93][95][97]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 44. mailto:[94][96][98]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 45. [95][97][99]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 46. [96][98][100]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 47. mailto:[97]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 48. [98][99][101]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 49. mailto:[99]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 50. mailto:[100]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 51. mailto:[101][100][102]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> 52.
[102][101][103]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> 53. mailto:[103]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 54. mailto:[104]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 55. mailto:[105]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>
>> --
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
Secretary
>> - [106]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
LPedia at LP.org
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>>
>> References
>>
>> 1. mailto:[102][104]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 2. mailto:[103][105]sam.goldstein at lp.org
>> 3. mailto:[104][106]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> 4. mailto:[105][107]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> 5. mailto:[106][108]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> 6. mailto:[107][109]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 7. mailto:[108][110]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 8. [109][111]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 9. [110][112]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 10. [111][113]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 11. mailto:[112][114]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 12. [113][115]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 13. [114][116]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 14. [115][117]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 15. mailto:[116][118]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> 16. mailto:[117][119]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 17. mailto:[118][120]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 18. [119][121]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 19. [120][122]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 20. [121][123]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 21. mailto:[122][124]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 22. [123][125]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 23. [124][126]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 24. [125][127]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 25. mailto:[126][128]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> 26.
[127][129]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> 27. mailto:[128][130]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> 28. mailto:[129][131]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> 29. mailto:[130][132]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> 30. mailto:[131][133]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 31. mailto:[132][134]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 32. [133][135]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 33. [134][136]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 34. [135][137]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 35. mailto:[136][138]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 36. [137][139]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 37. [138][140]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 38. [139][141]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 39. mailto:[140][142]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> 40. mailto:[141][143]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 41. mailto:[142][144]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 42. [143][145]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 43. [144][146]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 44. [145][147]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 45. mailto:[146][148]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 46. [147][149]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 47. [148][150]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 48. [149][151]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 49. mailto:[150][152]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> 50.
[151][153]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> 51. mailto:[152][154]sam.goldstein at lp.org
>> 52. mailto:[153][155]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> 53. mailto:[154][156]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> 54. mailto:[155][157]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> 55. mailto:[156][158]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 56. mailto:[157][159]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 57. [158][160]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 58. [159][161]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 59. [160][162]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 60. mailto:[161][163]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 61. [162][164]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 62. [163][165]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 63. [164][166]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 64. mailto:[165][167]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> 65. mailto:[166][168]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 66. mailto:[167][169]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 67. [168][170]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 68. [169][171]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 69. [170][172]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 70. mailto:[171][173]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 71. [172][174]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 72. [173][175]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 73. [174][176]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 74. mailto:[175][177]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> 75.
[176][178]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> 76. mailto:[177][179]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> 77. mailto:[178][180]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> 78. mailto:[179][181]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> 79. mailto:[180][182]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 80. mailto:[181][183]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 81. [182][184]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 82. [183][185]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 83. [184][186]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 84. mailto:[185][187]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 85. [186][188]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 86. [187][189]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 87. [188][190]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 88. mailto:[189][191]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>> 89. mailto:[190][192]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> 90. mailto:[191][193]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 91. [192][194]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 92. [193][195]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 93. [194][196]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 94. mailto:[195][197]joshua.smith at lp.org
>> 95. [196][198]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 96. [197][199]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>> 97. mailto:[198]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 98. [199][200]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> 99. mailto:[200]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 100. mailto:[201]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 101. mailto:[202][201]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> 102.
[203][202]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> 103. mailto:[204]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 104. mailto:[205]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 105. mailto:[206]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> 106. mailto:[207]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
--
Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA,
WY)
Libertarian National Committee
[208][203]richard.longstreth at lp.org
931.538.9300
References
1. mailto:[204]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
2. mailto:[205]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
3. mailto:[206]sam.goldstein at lp.org
4. mailto:[207]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
5. mailto:[208]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
6. mailto:[209]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
7. mailto:[210]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
8. mailto:[211]joshua.smith at lp.org
9. [212]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
10. [213]https://tinyurl.co/
11. [214]http://www.lpcolor/
12. [215]http://ado.org/
13. mailto:[216]joshua.smith at lp.org
14. [217]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
15. [218]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
16. [219]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
17. mailto:[220]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
18. mailto:[221]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
19. mailto:[222]joshua.smith at lp.org
20. [223]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
21. [224]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
22. [225]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
23. mailto:[226]joshua.smith at lp.org
24. [227]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
25. [228]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
26. [229]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
27. mailto:[230]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
28. [231]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
29. mailto:[232]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
30. mailto:[233]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
31. mailto:[234]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
32. mailto:[235]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
33. mailto:[236]joshua.smith at lp.org
34. [237]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
35. [238]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
36. [239]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
37. mailto:[240]joshua.smith at lp.org
38. [241]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
39. [242]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
40. [243]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
41. mailto:[244]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
42. mailto:[245]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
43. mailto:[246]joshua.smith at lp.org
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46. [249]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
47. mailto:[250]joshua.smith at lp.org
48. [251]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
49. [252]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
50. [253]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
51. mailto:[254]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
52. [255]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
53. mailto:[256]sam.goldstein at lp.org
54. mailto:[257]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
55. mailto:[258]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
56. mailto:[259]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
57. mailto:[260]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
58. mailto:[261]joshua.smith at lp.org
59. [262]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
60. [263]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
61. [264]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
62. mailto:[265]joshua.smith at lp.org
63. [266]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
64. [267]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
65. [268]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
66. mailto:[269]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
67. mailto:[270]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
68. mailto:[271]joshua.smith at lp.org
69. [272]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
70. [273]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
71. [274]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
72. mailto:[275]joshua.smith at lp.org
73. [276]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
74. [277]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
75. [278]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
76. mailto:[279]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
77. [280]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
78. mailto:[281]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
79. mailto:[282]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
80. mailto:[283]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
81. mailto:[284]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
82. mailto:[285]joshua.smith at lp.org
83. [286]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
84. [287]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
85. [288]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
86. mailto:[289]joshua.smith at lp.org
87. [290]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
88. [291]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
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In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [292]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
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In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [293]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
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105. mailto:sam.goldstein at lp.org
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108. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
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120. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
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138. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
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155. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
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158. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
159. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
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163. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
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169. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
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183. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
184. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
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187. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
188. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
189. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
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191. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
192. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
193. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
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201. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
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203. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
204. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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206. mailto:sam.goldstein at lp.org
207. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
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209. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
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222. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
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232. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
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236. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
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254. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
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256. mailto:sam.goldstein at lp.org
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259. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
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285. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
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