[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-11: ACKNOWLEDGE ELECTION OF JC
Caryn Ann Harlos
caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Wed Jul 11 10:59:25 EDT 2018
And for the record I would be THRILLED with these 7 on the JC. They are
very much ideologically aligned with me on issues concerning the Statement
of Principles and I already indicated I would appeal if the LNC refused to
remove that anti-Dallas Accord language from the employment manual. This
is exactly the JC I would want to hear that.
But I am objecting. Why? Because it’s not about who I like or don’t
like. It’s about what I think is the right thing to do whether it benefits
me or not.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:52 AM <erin.adams at lp.org> wrote:
> I would have spoken up sooner but do to a tooth extraction gone bad
> followed by a hospitalization I have been unable to respond. I sit here
> with half of my face swollen and still sick fighting for a solution that
> does not disregard our delegates none the less
>
>
> On 2018-07-11 09:42, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> > I will say once again there was no bad faith but everyone knows it was
> > a grand show of political theater —- I’ll rule this way —- wink
> > wink —— and you’ll appeal me.....
> >
> > The delegates were led to one outcome.
> >
> > Why were they not offered a mail ballot? Or a quick voice or standing
> > vote to find majorities?
> >
> > And how can anyone be said to make an informed choice beforehand not
> > knowing the ultra slim margin of up to only one vote??
> >
> > I submit we had no right to “call” the at large election without
> > an audit.
> >
> > This whole thing is wrong - it isn’t above reproach.
> >
> > I was being cowed into just settling. Thank you Erin for speaking up
> > so that I know I’m not alone here.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:34 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
> > <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I agree Erin.
> >>
> >> And I am getting more rankled that my reasonably pointing out that
> >> an independent audit is needed led to an attack on my motives
> >> because I won my race.
> >>
> >> I’m not sorry for winning and I won’t be attacked for asking
> >> reasonable questions.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:24 AM erin.adams--- via Lnc-business
> >> <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> With all due respect Sam, that simply isnt true. It is not true
> >>> that "
> >>> There is nothing we can do about it
> >>> at this point except live with it the best we can for two
> >>> years." and
> >>> honestly, Im sickened by the tactics Im seeing here from some in
> >>> an
> >>> attempt to FURTHER silence others. Its vile at best. Buckle up
> >>> folks, if
> >>> this is the tone that sets the way for THIS lnc,Many of you will
> >>> hate me
> >>> the end of this term. Alternate or not I WILL NOT be dismissed and
> >>>
> >>> silenced.
> >>>
> >>> On 2018-07-09 20:09, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
> >>>> Caryn Ann,
> >>>>
> >>>> We all acknowledge that the LNC At Large and JC elections went
> >>> awry.
> >>>> There is nothing we can do about it
> >>>> at this point except live with it the best we can for two years.
> >>> We
> >>>> will have a fix in place before the
> >>>> convention convenes at Austin that can be passed by the
> >>> delegates and
> >>>> made effective immediately.
> >>>>
> >>>> At the very least, take the discussion off the email ballot
> >>> thread
> >>>> which is supposed to just be for recording
> >>>> votes on the motion.
> >>>>
> >>>> ---
> >>>> Sam Goldstein
> >>>> Libertarian National Committee
> >>>> 317-850-0726 Cell
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2018-07-09 20:55, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> >>>>> Oh my goodness. I am sorry but this is beyond belief.
> >>>>> I think our elections were handled wrongfully and I am
> >>> supposed to
> >>>>> NOT
> >>>>> yell it from the rooftops? What Party am I in again?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 6:52 PM, John Phillips via
> >>> Lnc-business
> >>>>> <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Agreed, to a point. At some time, preaching to the choir
> >>> becomes
> >>>>> counter productive. As noted earlier, we are all aware
> >>> that it
> >>>>> sucked, and is a bad situation with no easy fix that will
> >>> make
> >>>>> everyone happy immediately. We all want to fix it, and
> >>> fix it
> >>>>> yesterday. I even agree with all of Caryn Ann's points,
> >>> and
> >>>>> yours.
> >>>>> Bring it up once a week. Absolutely. Don't bring it up 5
> >>> times
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> day. Stopping multiple times to read the same arguments
> >>> takes
> >>>>> away
> >>>>> time from working on fixing it, and promoting the party in
> >>> other
> >>>>> ways. I love the passion, I really do, but beating us up
> >>>>> continually
> >>>>> on a point we 90% or more agree on IS counterproductive.
> >>> Let's
> >>>>> move
> >>>>> on and FIX IT.
> >>>>> Don't shut up, but let's be productive, let's not let this
> >>> crap
> >>>>> happen again.
> >>>>> John Phillips
> >>>>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> >>>>> Cell 217-412-5973
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 7/9/2018 7:39 PM, Craig Bowden via Lnc-business wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Looking out for the membership and delegates is nothing to
> >>> be
> >>>>> quiet
> >>>>> about. I personally hope it is brought up at least once a
> >>> week
> >>>>> until
> >>>>> solutions are in place to prevent it from ever happening
> >>> again.
> >>>>> Respectfully,
> >>>>> Craig Bowden
> >>>>> Region 1 Alternate
> >>>>> On 2018-07-09 18:33, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I respectfully decline.
> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 6:29 PM, Sam Goldstein
> >>>>> <[1][2]sam.goldstein at lp.org>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> Caryn Ann,
> >>>>> Just shut up about this already!
> >>>>> Respectfully,
> >>>>> ---
> >>>>> Sam Goldstein
> >>>>> Libertarian National Committee
> >>>>> 317-850-0726 Cell
> >>>>> On 2018-07-09 18:34, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>> PS: Before this vote ends, I am going to put something
> >>>
> >>>>> together
> >>>>> to try
> >>>>> to convince you that this is actually one of the
> >>> worst ways
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> solve.
> >>>>> My first issue - that of steering the delegates down
> >>> that
> >>>>> road
> >>>>> with
> >>>>> at-large is unsolvable- at least unsolvable in any
> >>> way that
> >>>>> we
> >>>>> would
> >>>>> ever do. If it were up to me, I would punt it all
> >>> back to
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> delegates.
> >>>>> The second issue - of how to handle this situation
> >>> with the
> >>>>> JC
> >>>>> -
> >>>>> well
> >>>>> we are trying to solve it now and I think we are
> >>> solving it
> >>>>> wrong
> >>>>> both
> >>>>> ethically and procedurally.
> >>>>> And a remaining issue - is one where me and RONR
> >>> come into
> >>>>> conflict.
> >>>>> Rules are tools. Just because a rule allows
> >>> something
> >>>>> doesn't
> >>>>> mean
> >>>>> it
> >>>>> is right, and this is probably why the first issue
> >>> is
> >>>>> sticking
> >>>>> in my
> >>>>> craw so badly. It is fundamentally NOT RIGHT to
> >>> change the
> >>>>> rules of
> >>>>> an
> >>>>> election mid-way. There is a huge difference
> >>> between
> >>>>> majority
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> plurality and our candidates deserve to know as it
> >>> effects
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> way
> >>>>> they
> >>>>> campaign. We treated them and their efforts as
> >>> pawns, and
> >>>>> it
> >>>>> isn't
> >>>>> right.
> >>>>> I know some of you are thinking, just shut up about
> >>> this
> >>>>> already.
> >>>>> Well, I am a hard-nose on some things, and this is
> >>> one of
> >>>>> them.
> >>>>> Just
> >>>>> like it was with the eternal secrecy clause last
> >>> term.
> >>>>> The only way we are going to learn as an
> >>> organization is if
> >>>>> this is
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> bit painful. And in so doing we will model
> >>> over-the-top
> >>>>> integrity
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> our members rather than political expediency.
> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
> >>>>> <[1][2][3]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
> >>>>> ==I get the anger. I'm angry. When we ultimately do
> >>> get the
> >>>>> state-by-state tallies, I'm sure we'll find that
> >>> hundreds
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> delegates
> >>>>> didn't even vote in the two races because we put
> >>> them off
> >>>>> so
> >>>>> long.
> >>>>> In
> >>>>> the 2016 convention, whole states didn't cast votes
> >>> in the
> >>>>> At-Large
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> JC races. Them's the rules - elections are won by
> >>> those who
> >>>>> stay and
> >>>>> vote - but oh my did we make it hard. The
> >>> combination of
> >>>>> voting
> >>>>> methodology, tabulation method, and scheduling left
> >>> us in a
> >>>>> bad
> >>>>> place.===
> >>>>> You mean we ran in front of a racing car and now are
> >>>
> >>>>> surprised
> >>>>> we
> >>>>> got
> >>>>> ran over?
> >>>>> But it is more than that. The delegates were led to
> >>> make a
> >>>>> decision
> >>>>> in
> >>>>> a certain direction. There WERE other options.
> >>> Whether or
> >>>>> not one
> >>>>> agrees with the voting methodology, it is the
> >>> methodology
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> its
> >>>>> intent was to use approval voting to show approval
> >>> and we
> >>>>> turned it
> >>>>> on
> >>>>> its head. Why weren't the delegates given other
> >>> options?
> >>>>> ==All that said, I don't want to just be angry and
> >>>>> complain.
> >>>>> As far
> >>>>> as
> >>>>> actions that can be taken, this resolution is the
> >>> most
> >>>>> reasonable.
> >>>>> Other possibilities - revotes or mail votes of all
> >>> Party
> >>>>> members or
> >>>>> us
> >>>>> filling the JC seats or setting multiple JCs in
> >>> motion -
> >>>>> are
> >>>>> even
> >>>>> more
> >>>>> violative of the Bylaws and Rules.==
> >>>>> Are they all? I don't think so. And I do think my
> >>> very
> >>>>> real
> >>>>> complaint
> >>>>> of how the delegates were steered in a certain
> >>> direction is
> >>>>> being
> >>>>> ignored at best (or maligned at worst).
> >>>>> ==The contrary view admittedly rests on a thread of
> >>>>> legality:
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> delegates expressed their wish to take the top
> >>> at-large
> >>>>> candidates
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> the Bylaws say the same applies for the JC. There's
> >>> also no
> >>>>> doubt in
> >>>>> my
> >>>>> mind that had they been asked they would have done
> >>> the same
> >>>>> for the
> >>>>> JC.
> >>>>> A room of several hundred Libertarians were not
> >>> coerced
> >>>>> into
> >>>>> doing
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> - they went with what Nick suggested because that's
> >>> what
> >>>>> they
> >>>>> wanted
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> do. He just told them how.===
> >>>>> And that is where the dispute is. Most of the
> >>> people there
> >>>>> trusted
> >>>>> us
> >>>>> (I use us as Nick was acting as the spokesperson of
> >>> the LNC
> >>>>> and this
> >>>>> isn't about Nick ultimately) not to tell them what
> >>> they
> >>>>> wanted.
> >>>>> They
> >>>>> were presented with two choices in which they were
> >>> led down
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> particular path. You are an attorney Joe, you know
> >>> exactly
> >>>>> what I
> >>>>> am
> >>>>> getting at here.
> >>>>> Do you really think that if they were offered a
> >>> majority
> >>>>> rising vote
> >>>>> on
> >>>>> the spot to choose between options they would not
> >>> have
> >>>>> taken
> >>>>> that?
> >>>>> It
> >>>>> never ocurred to most of them that there WERE any
> >>> other
> >>>>> options. It
> >>>>> didn't immediately occur to me and I am well-versed
> >>> in this
> >>>>> stuff.
> >>>>> It
> >>>>> stinks. If a government acted this way we would be
> >>> all
> >>>>> lathered up.
> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Joe Bishop-Henchman
> >>>>> <[2][3][4]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org> wrote:
> >>>>> I get the anger. I'm angry. When we ultimately do
> >>> get the
> >>>>> state-by-state tallies, I'm sure we'll find that
> >>> hundreds
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> delegates didn't even vote in the two races
> >>> because we
> >>>>> put
> >>>>> them
> >>>>> off
> >>>>> so long. In the 2016 convention, whole states
> >>> didn't cast
> >>>>> votes in
> >>>>> the At-Large and JC races. Them's the rules -
> >>> elections
> >>>>> are
> >>>>> won by
> >>>>> those who stay and vote - but oh my did we make it
> >>> hard.
> >>>>> The
> >>>>> combination of voting methodology, tabulation
> >>> method, and
> >>>>> scheduling
> >>>>> left us in a bad place.
> >>>>> All that said, I don't want to just be angry and
> >>>>> complain.
> >>>>> As far
> >>>>> as
> >>>>> actions that can be taken, this resolution is the
> >>> most
> >>>>> reasonable.
> >>>>> Other possibilities - revotes or mail votes of all
> >>> Party
> >>>>> members
> >>>>> or
> >>>>> us filling the JC seats or setting multiple JCs in
> >>> motion
> >>>>> -
> >>>>> are
> >>>>> even
> >>>>> more violative of the Bylaws and Rules.
> >>>>> I do not dispute that one can reasonably argue
> >>> that every
> >>>>> JC
> >>>>> candidate was disapproved and that it should sit
> >>> empty
> >>>>> until
> >>>>> 2022.
> >>>>> The contrary view admittedly rests on a thread of
> >>>>> legality:
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> delegates expressed their wish to take the top
> >>> at-large
> >>>>> candidates
> >>>>> and the Bylaws say the same applies for the JC.
> >>> There's
> >>>>> also
> >>>>> no
> >>>>> doubt in my mind that had they been asked they
> >>> would have
> >>>>> done the
> >>>>> same for the JC. A room of several hundred
> >>> Libertarians
> >>>>> were
> >>>>> not
> >>>>> coerced into doing that - they went with what Nick
> >>>
> >>>>> suggested
> >>>>> because
> >>>>> that's what they wanted to do. He just told them
> >>> how.
> >>>>> They
> >>>>> didn't
> >>>>> want the LNC fighting over who would fill the
> >>> seats if
> >>>>> they
> >>>>> were
> >>>>> left vacant.
> >>>>> I doubt I'm going to convince you but I did want
> >>> to write
> >>>>> this to
> >>>>> emphasize that at least I am not sanguine or
> >>> sweeping
> >>>>> anything
> >>>>> blithely under the rug. I expect rethinking how we
> >>> do
> >>>>> elections
> >>>>> will
> >>>>> be a big priority for many of us.
> >>>>> JBH
> >>>>> On 2018-07-09 16:46, Caryn Ann Harlos via
> >>> Lnc-business
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> Suspension of the rules has to be specific and
> >>> there is
> >>>>> no
> >>>>> way
> >>>>> around
> >>>>> the fact that we used the number 5 over and
> >>> over.
> >>>>> This is taking things to an even deeper level
> >>> of
> >>>>> improper. I
> >>>>> object to
> >>>>> the whole at-Large process- I don’t think the
> >>>
> >>>>> delegates
> >>>>> made an
> >>>>> independent choice and now to just infer this
> >>> upon
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> is two
> >>>>> bridges
> >>>>> too far.
> >>>>> This is a big screwup and I won’t be part of
> >>> sweeping
> >>>>> it
> >>>>> under
> >>>>> the rug.
> >>>>> It alarms me to no end how blithely the whole
> >>>>> situation
> >>>>> is
> >>>>> being
> >>>>> taken.
> >>>>> There are people looking at us and seeing
> >>> nothing
> >>>>> different
> >>>>> than
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> government we wish to reform.
> >>>>> There was a controversial election and at least
> >>> one
> >>>>> state
> >>>>> chair
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> candidate has been asking for the state by
> >>> state
> >>>>> rallies
> >>>>> with
> >>>>> no
> >>>>> time
> >>>>> frame given him.
> >>>>> The whole thing was an affront to people
> >>> expecting an
> >>>>> entirely
> >>>>> different thing when they ran. I will not be
> >>> sanguine
> >>>>> about
> >>>>> it.
> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 2:20 PM Whitney Bilyeu
> >>>>> <[1][3][4][5]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org> wrote:
> >>>>> This point did come up immediately after
> >>>>> adjournment,
> >>>>> while
> >>>>> Nick
> >>>>> was
> >>>>> still at the mic. I don't recall who brought
> >>> it up,
> >>>>> but
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> statement
> >>>>> was made that it would follow the same
> >>> procedure as
> >>>>> At-Large
> >>>>> at
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> point, since we were no longer in session.
> >>>>> No one raised the question prior to that.
> >>>>> Whitney Bilyeu
> >>>>> Region 7 Representative
> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Caryn Ann
> >>> Harlos via
> >>>>> Lnc-business
> >>>>> <[2][4][5][6]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>>>> Joshua they were not given a choice on
> >>> this.
> >>>>> The
> >>>>> JC
> >>>>> never
> >>>>> came
> >>>>> up.
> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:47 AM
> >>>>> <[1][3][5][6][7]joshua.smith at lp.org>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> I vote yes. Given that the delegates were
> >>> given
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> choice
> >>>>> at
> >>>>> convention
> >>>>> just a few short days ago, I believe we
> >>> should
> >>>>> respect
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> decision.
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Joshua D. Smith
> >>>>> On 2018-07-07 22:23, Caryn Ann Harlos via
> >>>>> Lnc-business
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes
> >>> are
> >>>>> due
> >>>>> to the
> >>>>> LNC-Business
> >>>>>> list by July 14, 2018 at 11:59:59pm
> >>> Pacific
> >>>>> time.
> >>>>> Co-Sponsors:
> >>>>>> Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hagan,
> >>> Merced,
> >>>>> Van
> >>>>> Horn
> >>>>> Motion:
> >>>>> Move
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>> the Libertarian National Committee
> >>>>> acknowledge
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> election of
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>> following to the Judicial Committee
> >>> for a
> >>>>> four-year
> >>>>> term:
> >>>>> D.
> >>>>> Frank
> >>>>>> Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl
> >>> Perry, Ruth
> >>>>> Bennett,
> >>>>> Geoff
> >>>>> Neale,
> >>>>>> Jim
> >>>>>> Turney, and Tricia Sprankle. You can
> >>> keep
> >>>>> track
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> Secretary's
> >>>>>> manual tally of votes here:
> >>>>>
> >>> [1][2][4][6][7][8]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> In Liberty,
> >>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
> >>>>>> Region 1 Representative,
> >>> Libertarian
> >>>>> National
> >>>>> Committee
> >>>>> (Alaska,
> >>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii,
> >>> Kansas,
> >>>>> Montana,
> >>>>> Utah,
> >>>>> Wyoming,
> >>>>>> Washington)
> >>>>>> - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>>> Communications Director,
> >>> [3]Libertarian
> >>>>> Party of
> >>>>> Colorado
> >>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation
> >>>
> >>>>> Committee
> >>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of
> >>> Principles:
> >>>>>> We defend your rights
> >>>>>> And oppose the use of force
> >>>>>> Taxation is theft
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> References
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1.
> >>> [3][5][7][8][9]https://tinyurl.co
> >>>>> m/lncvoting
> >>>>>> 2.
> >>> mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>>> 3.
> >>> [5][6][8][9][10]http://www.lpcolor
> >>>>> ado.org/ [1]
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> In Liberty,
> >>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
> >>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian
> >>> National
> >>>>> Committee
> >>>>> Secretary
> >>>>> - [6]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
> >>>>> Secretary at LP.org.
> >>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation
> >>> Committee -
> >>>>> LPedia at LP.org
> >>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >>>>> We defend your rights
> >>>>> And oppose the use of force
> >>>>> Taxation is theft
> >>>>> References
> >>>>> 1.
> >>> mailto:[7][9][10][11]joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 2.
> >>> [8][10][11][12]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 3.
> >>> [9][11][12][13]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 4. mailto:[10]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>> 5.
> >>> [11][12][13][14]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 6. mailto:[12]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> In Liberty,
> >>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
> >>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
> >>> Committee
> >>>>> Secretary
> >>>>> - [13]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
> >>> Secretary at LP.org.
> >>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
> >>>>> LPedia at LP.org
> >>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >>>>> We defend your rights
> >>>>> And oppose the use of force
> >>>>> Taxation is theft
> >>>>> References
> >>>>> 1. mailto:[13][14][15]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
> >>>>> 2. mailto:[14][15][16]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >>>>> 3. mailto:[15][16][17]joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 4. [16][17][18]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 5. [17][18][19]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 6. [18][19][20]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 7. mailto:[19][20][21]joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 8. [20][21][22]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 9. [21][22][23]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 10. mailto:[22]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>> 11. [23][23][24]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 12. mailto:[24]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>> 13. mailto:[25]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> JBH
> >>>>> ------------
> >>>>> Joe Bishop-Henchman
> >>>>> LNC Member (At-Large)
> >>>>> [26][24][25]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> >>>>>
> >>> [27][25][26]www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837 [2]
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> In Liberty,
> >>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
> >>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
> >>> Committee
> >>>>> Secretary
> >>>>> - [28]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
> >>> Secretary at LP.org.
> >>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
> >>>>> LPedia at LP.org
> >>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >>>>> We defend your rights
> >>>>> And oppose the use of force
> >>>>> Taxation is theft
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> In Liberty,
> >>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
> >>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
> >>> Committee
> >>>>> Secretary
> >>>>> - [29]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
> >>> Secretary at LP.org.
> >>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
> >>>>> LPedia at LP.org
> >>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >>>>> We defend your rights
> >>>>> And oppose the use of force
> >>>>> Taxation is theft
> >>>>> References
> >>>>> 1. mailto:[26][27]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> >>>>> 2. mailto:[27][28]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> >>>>> 3. mailto:[28][29]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
> >>>>> 4. mailto:[29][30]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >>>>> 5. mailto:[30][31]joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 6. [31][32]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 7. [32][33]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 8. [33][34]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 9. mailto:[34][35]joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 10. [35][36]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 11. [36][37]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 12. [37][38]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 13. mailto:[38][39]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
> >>>>> 14. mailto:[39][40]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >>>>> 15. mailto:[40][41]joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 16. [41][42]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 17. [42][43]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 18. [43][44]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 19. mailto:[44][45]joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 20. [45][46]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 21. [46][47]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 22. mailto:[47]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>> 23. [48][48]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 24. mailto:[49]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>> 25. mailto:[50]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>> 26. mailto:[51][49]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> >>>>> 27.
> >>> [52][50]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> >>>>> 28. mailto:[53]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>> 29. mailto:[54]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> In Liberty,
> >>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
> >>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> >>> Secretary
> >>>>> - [55]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> >>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
> >>> LPedia at LP.org
> >>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >>>>> We defend your rights
> >>>>> And oppose the use of force
> >>>>> Taxation is theft
> >>>>> References
> >>>>> 1. mailto:[51]sam.goldstein at lp.org
> >>>>> 2. mailto:[52]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> >>>>> 3. mailto:[53]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> >>>>> 4. mailto:[54]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
> >>>>> 5. mailto:[55]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >>>>> 6. mailto:[56]joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 7. [57]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 8. [58]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 9. [59]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 10. mailto:[60]joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 11. [61]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 12. [62]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 13. [63]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 14. mailto:[64]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
> >>>>> 15. mailto:[65]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >>>>> 16. mailto:[66]joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 17. [67]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 18. [68]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 19. [69]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 20. mailto:[70]joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 21. [71]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 22. [72]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 23. [73]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 24. mailto:[74]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> >>>>> 25. [75]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> >>>>> 26. mailto:[76]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> >>>>> 27. mailto:[77]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> >>>>> 28. mailto:[78]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
> >>>>> 29. mailto:[79]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >>>>> 30. mailto:[80]joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 31. [81]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 32. [82]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 33. [83]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 34. mailto:[84]joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 35. [85]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 36. [86]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 37. [87]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 38. mailto:[88]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
> >>>>> 39. mailto:[89]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >>>>> 40. mailto:[90]joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 41. [91]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 42. [92]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 43. [93]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 44. mailto:[94]joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 45. [95]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 46. [96]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 47. mailto:[97]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>> 48. [98]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 49. mailto:[99]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>> 50. mailto:[100]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>> 51. mailto:[101]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> >>>>> 52. [102]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> >>>>> 53. mailto:[103]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>> 54. mailto:[104]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>> 55. mailto:[105]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> In Liberty,
> >>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
> >>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> >>> Secretary
> >>>>> - [106]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> >>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> >>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >>>>> We defend your rights
> >>>>> And oppose the use of force
> >>>>> Taxation is theft
> >>>>>
> >>>>> References
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >>>>> 2. mailto:sam.goldstein at lp.org
> >>>>> 3. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> >>>>> 4. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> >>>>> 5. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
> >>>>> 6. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >>>>> 7. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 8. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 9. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 10. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 11. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 12. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 13. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 14. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 15. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
> >>>>> 16. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >>>>> 17. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 18. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 19. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 20. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 21. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 22. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 23. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 24. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 25. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> >>>>> 26. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> >>>>> 27. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> >>>>> 28. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> >>>>> 29. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
> >>>>> 30. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >>>>> 31. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 32. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 33. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 34. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 35. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 36. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 37. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 38. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 39. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
> >>>>> 40. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >>>>> 41. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 42. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 43. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 44. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 45. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 46. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 47. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 48. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 49. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> >>>>> 50. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> >>>>> 51. mailto:sam.goldstein at lp.org
> >>>>> 52. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> >>>>> 53. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> >>>>> 54. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
> >>>>> 55. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >>>>> 56. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 57. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 58. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 59. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 60. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 61. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 62. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 63. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 64. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
> >>>>> 65. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >>>>> 66. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 67. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 68. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 69. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 70. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 71. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 72. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 73. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 74. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> >>>>> 75. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> >>>>> 76. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> >>>>> 77. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> >>>>> 78. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
> >>>>> 79. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >>>>> 80. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 81. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 82. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 83. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 84. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 85. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 86. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 87. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 88. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
> >>>>> 89. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >>>>> 90. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 91. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 92. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 93. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 94. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
> >>>>> 95. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 96. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >>>>> 97. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>> 98. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>> 99. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>> 100. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>> 101. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> >>>>> 102. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> >>>>> 103. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>> 104. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>> 105. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>> 106. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> IN LIBERTY,
> >> CARYN ANN HARLOS
> >>
> >> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
> >> Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> >>
> >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> >>
> >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >> _We defend your rights_
> >> _And oppose the use of force_
> >> _Taxation is theft_
> > --
> >
> > --
> >
> > IN LIBERTY,
> > CARYN ANN HARLOS
> > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
> > Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> >
> > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> > _We defend your rights_
> > _And oppose the use of force_
> > _Taxation is theft_
> >
> > Links:
> > ------
> > [1] http://ado.org/
> > [2] http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>
> --
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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And for the record I would be THRILLED with these 7 on the JC. They
are very much ideologically aligned with me on issues concerning the
Statement of Principles and I already indicated I would appeal if the
LNC refused to remove that anti-Dallas Accord language from the
employment manual. This is exactly the JC I would want to hear that.
But I am objecting. Why? Because it’s not about who I like or don’t
like. It’s about what I think is the right thing to do whether it
benefits me or not.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:52 AM <[1]erin.adams at lp.org> wrote:
I would have spoken up sooner but do to a tooth extraction gone bad
followed by a hospitalization I have been unable to respond. I sit
here
with half of my face swollen and still sick fighting for a solution
that
does not disregard our delegates none the less
On 2018-07-11 09:42, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> I will say once again there was no bad faith but everyone knows it
was
> a grand show of political theater —- I’ll rule this way —- wink
> wink —— and you’ll appeal me.....
>
> The delegates were led to one outcome.
>
> Why were they not offered a mail ballot? Or a quick voice or
standing
> vote to find majorities?
>
> And how can anyone be said to make an informed choice beforehand
not
> knowing the ultra slim margin of up to only one vote??
>
> I submit we had no right to “call” the at large election without
> an audit.
>
> This whole thing is wrong - it isn’t above reproach.
>
> I was being cowed into just settling. Thank you Erin for speaking
up
> so that I know I’m not alone here.
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:34 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
> <[2]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>
>> I agree Erin.
>>
>> And I am getting more rankled that my reasonably pointing out
that
>> an independent audit is needed led to an attack on my motives
>> because I won my race.
>>
>> I’m not sorry for winning and I won’t be attacked for asking
>> reasonable questions.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 8:24 AM erin.adams--- via Lnc-business
>> <[3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> With all due respect Sam, that simply isnt true. It is not true
>>> that "
>>> There is nothing we can do about it
>>> at this point except live with it the best we can for two
>>> years." and
>>> honestly, Im sickened by the tactics Im seeing here from some in
>>> an
>>> attempt to FURTHER silence others. Its vile at best. Buckle up
>>> folks, if
>>> this is the tone that sets the way for THIS lnc,Many of you will
>>> hate me
>>> the end of this term. Alternate or not I WILL NOT be dismissed
and
>>>
>>> silenced.
>>>
>>> On 2018-07-09 20:09, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>> Caryn Ann,
>>>>
>>>> We all acknowledge that the LNC At Large and JC elections went
>>> awry.
>>>> There is nothing we can do about it
>>>> at this point except live with it the best we can for two
years.
>>> We
>>>> will have a fix in place before the
>>>> convention convenes at Austin that can be passed by the
>>> delegates and
>>>> made effective immediately.
>>>>
>>>> At the very least, take the discussion off the email ballot
>>> thread
>>>> which is supposed to just be for recording
>>>> votes on the motion.
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>>>>
>>>> On 2018-07-09 20:55, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>> Oh my goodness. I am sorry but this is beyond belief.
>>>>> I think our elections were handled wrongfully and I am
>>> supposed to
>>>>> NOT
>>>>> yell it from the rooftops? What Party am I in again?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 6:52 PM, John Phillips via
>>> Lnc-business
>>>>> <[1][4]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Agreed, to a point. At some time, preaching to the choir
>>> becomes
>>>>> counter productive. As noted earlier, we are all aware
>>> that it
>>>>> sucked, and is a bad situation with no easy fix that will
>>> make
>>>>> everyone happy immediately. We all want to fix it, and
>>> fix it
>>>>> yesterday. I even agree with all of Caryn Ann's points,
>>> and
>>>>> yours.
>>>>> Bring it up once a week. Absolutely. Don't bring it up 5
>>> times
>>>>> a
>>>>> day. Stopping multiple times to read the same arguments
>>> takes
>>>>> away
>>>>> time from working on fixing it, and promoting the party in
>>> other
>>>>> ways. I love the passion, I really do, but beating us up
>>>>> continually
>>>>> on a point we 90% or more agree on IS counterproductive.
>>> Let's
>>>>> move
>>>>> on and FIX IT.
>>>>> Don't shut up, but let's be productive, let's not let this
>>> crap
>>>>> happen again.
>>>>> John Phillips
>>>>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>>> Cell 217-412-5973
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/9/2018 7:39 PM, Craig Bowden via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking out for the membership and delegates is nothing to
>>> be
>>>>> quiet
>>>>> about. I personally hope it is brought up at least once a
>>> week
>>>>> until
>>>>> solutions are in place to prevent it from ever happening
>>> again.
>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>> Craig Bowden
>>>>> Region 1 Alternate
>>>>> On 2018-07-09 18:33, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I respectfully decline.
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 6:29 PM, Sam Goldstein
>>>>> <[1][2][5]sam.goldstein at lp.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Caryn Ann,
>>>>> Just shut up about this already!
>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>>>>> On 2018-07-09 18:34, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>>> wrote:
>>>>> PS: Before this vote ends, I am going to put something
>>>
>>>>> together
>>>>> to try
>>>>> to convince you that this is actually one of the
>>> worst ways
>>>>> to
>>>>> solve.
>>>>> My first issue - that of steering the delegates down
>>> that
>>>>> road
>>>>> with
>>>>> at-large is unsolvable- at least unsolvable in any
>>> way that
>>>>> we
>>>>> would
>>>>> ever do. If it were up to me, I would punt it all
>>> back to
>>>>> the
>>>>> delegates.
>>>>> The second issue - of how to handle this situation
>>> with the
>>>>> JC
>>>>> -
>>>>> well
>>>>> we are trying to solve it now and I think we are
>>> solving it
>>>>> wrong
>>>>> both
>>>>> ethically and procedurally.
>>>>> And a remaining issue - is one where me and RONR
>>> come into
>>>>> conflict.
>>>>> Rules are tools. Just because a rule allows
>>> something
>>>>> doesn't
>>>>> mean
>>>>> it
>>>>> is right, and this is probably why the first issue
>>> is
>>>>> sticking
>>>>> in my
>>>>> craw so badly. It is fundamentally NOT RIGHT to
>>> change the
>>>>> rules of
>>>>> an
>>>>> election mid-way. There is a huge difference
>>> between
>>>>> majority
>>>>> and
>>>>> plurality and our candidates deserve to know as it
>>> effects
>>>>> the
>>>>> way
>>>>> they
>>>>> campaign. We treated them and their efforts as
>>> pawns, and
>>>>> it
>>>>> isn't
>>>>> right.
>>>>> I know some of you are thinking, just shut up about
>>> this
>>>>> already.
>>>>> Well, I am a hard-nose on some things, and this is
>>> one of
>>>>> them.
>>>>> Just
>>>>> like it was with the eternal secrecy clause last
>>> term.
>>>>> The only way we are going to learn as an
>>> organization is if
>>>>> this is
>>>>> a
>>>>> bit painful. And in so doing we will model
>>> over-the-top
>>>>> integrity
>>>>> to
>>>>> our members rather than political expediency.
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> <[1][2][3][6]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>> ==I get the anger. I'm angry. When we ultimately do
>>> get the
>>>>> state-by-state tallies, I'm sure we'll find that
>>> hundreds
>>>>> of
>>>>> delegates
>>>>> didn't even vote in the two races because we put
>>> them off
>>>>> so
>>>>> long.
>>>>> In
>>>>> the 2016 convention, whole states didn't cast votes
>>> in the
>>>>> At-Large
>>>>> and
>>>>> JC races. Them's the rules - elections are won by
>>> those who
>>>>> stay and
>>>>> vote - but oh my did we make it hard. The
>>> combination of
>>>>> voting
>>>>> methodology, tabulation method, and scheduling left
>>> us in a
>>>>> bad
>>>>> place.===
>>>>> You mean we ran in front of a racing car and now are
>>>
>>>>> surprised
>>>>> we
>>>>> got
>>>>> ran over?
>>>>> But it is more than that. The delegates were led to
>>> make a
>>>>> decision
>>>>> in
>>>>> a certain direction. There WERE other options.
>>> Whether or
>>>>> not one
>>>>> agrees with the voting methodology, it is the
>>> methodology
>>>>> and
>>>>> its
>>>>> intent was to use approval voting to show approval
>>> and we
>>>>> turned it
>>>>> on
>>>>> its head. Why weren't the delegates given other
>>> options?
>>>>> ==All that said, I don't want to just be angry and
>>>>> complain.
>>>>> As far
>>>>> as
>>>>> actions that can be taken, this resolution is the
>>> most
>>>>> reasonable.
>>>>> Other possibilities - revotes or mail votes of all
>>> Party
>>>>> members or
>>>>> us
>>>>> filling the JC seats or setting multiple JCs in
>>> motion -
>>>>> are
>>>>> even
>>>>> more
>>>>> violative of the Bylaws and Rules.==
>>>>> Are they all? I don't think so. And I do think my
>>> very
>>>>> real
>>>>> complaint
>>>>> of how the delegates were steered in a certain
>>> direction is
>>>>> being
>>>>> ignored at best (or maligned at worst).
>>>>> ==The contrary view admittedly rests on a thread of
>>>>> legality:
>>>>> the
>>>>> delegates expressed their wish to take the top
>>> at-large
>>>>> candidates
>>>>> and
>>>>> the Bylaws say the same applies for the JC. There's
>>> also no
>>>>> doubt in
>>>>> my
>>>>> mind that had they been asked they would have done
>>> the same
>>>>> for the
>>>>> JC.
>>>>> A room of several hundred Libertarians were not
>>> coerced
>>>>> into
>>>>> doing
>>>>> that
>>>>> - they went with what Nick suggested because that's
>>> what
>>>>> they
>>>>> wanted
>>>>> to
>>>>> do. He just told them how.===
>>>>> And that is where the dispute is. Most of the
>>> people there
>>>>> trusted
>>>>> us
>>>>> (I use us as Nick was acting as the spokesperson of
>>> the LNC
>>>>> and this
>>>>> isn't about Nick ultimately) not to tell them what
>>> they
>>>>> wanted.
>>>>> They
>>>>> were presented with two choices in which they were
>>> led down
>>>>> a
>>>>> particular path. You are an attorney Joe, you know
>>> exactly
>>>>> what I
>>>>> am
>>>>> getting at here.
>>>>> Do you really think that if they were offered a
>>> majority
>>>>> rising vote
>>>>> on
>>>>> the spot to choose between options they would not
>>> have
>>>>> taken
>>>>> that?
>>>>> It
>>>>> never ocurred to most of them that there WERE any
>>> other
>>>>> options. It
>>>>> didn't immediately occur to me and I am well-versed
>>> in this
>>>>> stuff.
>>>>> It
>>>>> stinks. If a government acted this way we would be
>>> all
>>>>> lathered up.
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Joe Bishop-Henchman
>>>>> <[2][3][4][7]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>> I get the anger. I'm angry. When we ultimately do
>>> get the
>>>>> state-by-state tallies, I'm sure we'll find that
>>> hundreds
>>>>> of
>>>>> delegates didn't even vote in the two races
>>> because we
>>>>> put
>>>>> them
>>>>> off
>>>>> so long. In the 2016 convention, whole states
>>> didn't cast
>>>>> votes in
>>>>> the At-Large and JC races. Them's the rules -
>>> elections
>>>>> are
>>>>> won by
>>>>> those who stay and vote - but oh my did we make it
>>> hard.
>>>>> The
>>>>> combination of voting methodology, tabulation
>>> method, and
>>>>> scheduling
>>>>> left us in a bad place.
>>>>> All that said, I don't want to just be angry and
>>>>> complain.
>>>>> As far
>>>>> as
>>>>> actions that can be taken, this resolution is the
>>> most
>>>>> reasonable.
>>>>> Other possibilities - revotes or mail votes of all
>>> Party
>>>>> members
>>>>> or
>>>>> us filling the JC seats or setting multiple JCs in
>>> motion
>>>>> -
>>>>> are
>>>>> even
>>>>> more violative of the Bylaws and Rules.
>>>>> I do not dispute that one can reasonably argue
>>> that every
>>>>> JC
>>>>> candidate was disapproved and that it should sit
>>> empty
>>>>> until
>>>>> 2022.
>>>>> The contrary view admittedly rests on a thread of
>>>>> legality:
>>>>> the
>>>>> delegates expressed their wish to take the top
>>> at-large
>>>>> candidates
>>>>> and the Bylaws say the same applies for the JC.
>>> There's
>>>>> also
>>>>> no
>>>>> doubt in my mind that had they been asked they
>>> would have
>>>>> done the
>>>>> same for the JC. A room of several hundred
>>> Libertarians
>>>>> were
>>>>> not
>>>>> coerced into doing that - they went with what Nick
>>>
>>>>> suggested
>>>>> because
>>>>> that's what they wanted to do. He just told them
>>> how.
>>>>> They
>>>>> didn't
>>>>> want the LNC fighting over who would fill the
>>> seats if
>>>>> they
>>>>> were
>>>>> left vacant.
>>>>> I doubt I'm going to convince you but I did want
>>> to write
>>>>> this to
>>>>> emphasize that at least I am not sanguine or
>>> sweeping
>>>>> anything
>>>>> blithely under the rug. I expect rethinking how we
>>> do
>>>>> elections
>>>>> will
>>>>> be a big priority for many of us.
>>>>> JBH
>>>>> On 2018-07-09 16:46, Caryn Ann Harlos via
>>> Lnc-business
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Suspension of the rules has to be specific and
>>> there is
>>>>> no
>>>>> way
>>>>> around
>>>>> the fact that we used the number 5 over and
>>> over.
>>>>> This is taking things to an even deeper level
>>> of
>>>>> improper. I
>>>>> object to
>>>>> the whole at-Large process- I don’t think the
>>>
>>>>> delegates
>>>>> made an
>>>>> independent choice and now to just infer this
>>> upon
>>>>> that
>>>>> is two
>>>>> bridges
>>>>> too far.
>>>>> This is a big screwup and I won’t be part of
>>> sweeping
>>>>> it
>>>>> under
>>>>> the rug.
>>>>> It alarms me to no end how blithely the whole
>>>>> situation
>>>>> is
>>>>> being
>>>>> taken.
>>>>> There are people looking at us and seeing
>>> nothing
>>>>> different
>>>>> than
>>>>> the
>>>>> government we wish to reform.
>>>>> There was a controversial election and at least
>>> one
>>>>> state
>>>>> chair
>>>>> and
>>>>> candidate has been asking for the state by
>>> state
>>>>> rallies
>>>>> with
>>>>> no
>>>>> time
>>>>> frame given him.
>>>>> The whole thing was an affront to people
>>> expecting an
>>>>> entirely
>>>>> different thing when they ran. I will not be
>>> sanguine
>>>>> about
>>>>> it.
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 2:20 PM Whitney Bilyeu
>>>>> <[1][3][4][5][8]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>> This point did come up immediately after
>>>>> adjournment,
>>>>> while
>>>>> Nick
>>>>> was
>>>>> still at the mic. I don't recall who brought
>>> it up,
>>>>> but
>>>>> the
>>>>> statement
>>>>> was made that it would follow the same
>>> procedure as
>>>>> At-Large
>>>>> at
>>>>> that
>>>>> point, since we were no longer in session.
>>>>> No one raised the question prior to that.
>>>>> Whitney Bilyeu
>>>>> Region 7 Representative
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Caryn Ann
>>> Harlos via
>>>>> Lnc-business
>>>>> <[2][4][5][6][9]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>> Joshua they were not given a choice on
>>> this.
>>>>> The
>>>>> JC
>>>>> never
>>>>> came
>>>>> up.
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:47 AM
>>>>> <[1][3][5][6][7][10]joshua.smith at lp.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I vote yes. Given that the delegates were
>>> given
>>>>> the
>>>>> choice
>>>>> at
>>>>> convention
>>>>> just a few short days ago, I believe we
>>> should
>>>>> respect
>>>>> that
>>>>> decision.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Joshua D. Smith
>>>>> On 2018-07-07 22:23, Caryn Ann Harlos via
>>>>> Lnc-business
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes
>>> are
>>>>> due
>>>>> to the
>>>>> LNC-Business
>>>>>> list by July 14, 2018 at 11:59:59pm
>>> Pacific
>>>>> time.
>>>>> Co-Sponsors:
>>>>>> Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hagan,
>>> Merced,
>>>>> Van
>>>>> Horn
>>>>> Motion:
>>>>> Move
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> the Libertarian National Committee
>>>>> acknowledge
>>>>> the
>>>>> election of
>>>>> the
>>>>>> following to the Judicial Committee
>>> for a
>>>>> four-year
>>>>> term:
>>>>> D.
>>>>> Frank
>>>>>> Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl
>>> Perry, Ruth
>>>>> Bennett,
>>>>> Geoff
>>>>> Neale,
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>> Turney, and Tricia Sprankle. You can
>>> keep
>>>>> track
>>>>> of
>>>>> the
>>>>> Secretary's
>>>>>> manual tally of votes here:
>>>>>
>>> [1][2][4][6][7][8][11]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>> Region 1 Representative,
>>> Libertarian
>>>>> National
>>>>> Committee
>>>>> (Alaska,
>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii,
>>> Kansas,
>>>>> Montana,
>>>>> Utah,
>>>>> Wyoming,
>>>>>> Washington)
>>>>>> - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>> Communications Director,
>>> [3]Libertarian
>>>>> Party of
>>>>> Colorado
>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation
>>>
>>>>> Committee
>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of
>>> Principles:
>>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>>
>>>>>> References
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1.
>>> [3][5][7][8][9][12]https://tinyurl.co
>>>>> m/lncvoting
>>>>>> 2.
>>> mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>> 3.
>>> [5][6][8][9][10][13]http://www.lpcolor
>>>>> [14]ado.org/ [1]
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian
>>> National
>>>>> Committee
>>>>> Secretary
>>>>> - [6]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>>>>> Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation
>>> Committee -
>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>> References
>>>>> 1.
>>> mailto:[7][9][10][11][15]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 2.
>>> [8][10][11][12][16]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 3.
>>> [9][11][12][13][17]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 4. mailto:[10]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 5.
>>> [11][12][13][14][18]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 6. mailto:[12]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
>>> Committee
>>>>> Secretary
>>>>> - [13]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>>> Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>> References
>>>>> 1. mailto:[13][14][15][19]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 2. mailto:[14][15][16][20]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 3. mailto:[15][16][17][21]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 4. [16][17][18][22]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 5. [17][18][19][23]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 6. [18][19][20][24]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 7. mailto:[19][20][21][25]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 8. [20][21][22][26]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 9. [21][22][23][27]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 10. mailto:[22]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 11. [23][23][24][28]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 12. mailto:[24]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 13. mailto:[25]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> --
>>>>> JBH
>>>>> ------------
>>>>> Joe Bishop-Henchman
>>>>> LNC Member (At-Large)
>>>>> [26][24][25][29]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>
>>> [27][25][26][30]www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837 [2]
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
>>> Committee
>>>>> Secretary
>>>>> - [28]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>>> Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
>>> Committee
>>>>> Secretary
>>>>> - [29]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>>> Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>> References
>>>>> 1. mailto:[26][27][31]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>> 2. mailto:[27][28][32]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 3. mailto:[28][29][33]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 4. mailto:[29][30][34]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 5. mailto:[30][31][35]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 6. [31][32][36]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 7. [32][33][37]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 8. [33][34][38]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 9. mailto:[34][35][39]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 10. [35][36][40]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 11. [36][37][41]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 12. [37][38][42]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 13. mailto:[38][39][43]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 14. mailto:[39][40][44]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 15. mailto:[40][41][45]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 16. [41][42][46]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 17. [42][43][47]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 18. [43][44][48]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 19. mailto:[44][45][49]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 20. [45][46][50]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 21. [46][47][51]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 22. mailto:[47]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 23. [48][48][52]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 24. mailto:[49]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 25. mailto:[50]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 26. mailto:[51][49][53]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 27.
>>> [52][50][54]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>> 28. mailto:[53]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 29. mailto:[54]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>>> Secretary
>>>>> - [55]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>> References
>>>>> 1. mailto:[51][55]sam.goldstein at lp.org
>>>>> 2. mailto:[52][56]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>> 3. mailto:[53][57]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 4. mailto:[54][58]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 5. mailto:[55][59]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 6. mailto:[56][60]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 7. [57][61]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 8. [58][62]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 9. [59][63]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 10. mailto:[60][64]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 11. [61][65]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 12. [62][66]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 13. [63][67]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 14. mailto:[64][68]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 15. mailto:[65][69]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 16. mailto:[66][70]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 17. [67][71]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 18. [68][72]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 19. [69][73]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 20. mailto:[70][74]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 21. [71][75]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 22. [72][76]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 23. [73][77]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 24. mailto:[74][78]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 25. [75][79]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>> 26. mailto:[76][80]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>> 27. mailto:[77][81]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 28. mailto:[78][82]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 29. mailto:[79][83]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 30. mailto:[80][84]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 31. [81][85]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 32. [82][86]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 33. [83][87]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 34. mailto:[84][88]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 35. [85][89]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 36. [86][90]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 37. [87][91]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 38. mailto:[88][92]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 39. mailto:[89][93]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 40. mailto:[90][94]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 41. [91][95]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 42. [92][96]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 43. [93][97]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 44. mailto:[94][98]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 45. [95][99]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 46. [96][100]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 47. mailto:[97]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 48. [98][101]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 49. mailto:[99]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 50. mailto:[100]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 51. mailto:[101][102]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 52. [102][103]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>> 53. mailto:[103]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 54. mailto:[104]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 55. mailto:[105]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>>> Secretary
>>>>> - [106]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>
>>>>> References
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. mailto:[104]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 2. mailto:[105]sam.goldstein at lp.org
>>>>> 3. mailto:[106]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>> 4. mailto:[107]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 5. mailto:[108]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 6. mailto:[109]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 7. mailto:[110]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 8. [111]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 9. [112]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 10. [113]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 11. mailto:[114]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 12. [115]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 13. [116]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 14. [117]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 15. mailto:[118]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 16. mailto:[119]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 17. mailto:[120]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 18. [121]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 19. [122]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 20. [123]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 21. mailto:[124]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 22. [125]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 23. [126]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 24. [127]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 25. mailto:[128]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 26. [129]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>> 27. mailto:[130]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>> 28. mailto:[131]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 29. mailto:[132]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 30. mailto:[133]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 31. mailto:[134]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 32. [135]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 33. [136]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 34. [137]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 35. mailto:[138]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 36. [139]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 37. [140]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 38. [141]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 39. mailto:[142]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 40. mailto:[143]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 41. mailto:[144]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 42. [145]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 43. [146]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 44. [147]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 45. mailto:[148]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 46. [149]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 47. [150]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 48. [151]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 49. mailto:[152]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 50. [153]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>> 51. mailto:[154]sam.goldstein at lp.org
>>>>> 52. mailto:[155]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>> 53. mailto:[156]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 54. mailto:[157]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 55. mailto:[158]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 56. mailto:[159]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 57. [160]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 58. [161]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 59. [162]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 60. mailto:[163]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 61. [164]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 62. [165]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 63. [166]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 64. mailto:[167]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 65. mailto:[168]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 66. mailto:[169]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 67. [170]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 68. [171]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 69. [172]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 70. mailto:[173]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 71. [174]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 72. [175]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 73. [176]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 74. mailto:[177]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 75. [178]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>> 76. mailto:[179]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>> 77. mailto:[180]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 78. mailto:[181]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 79. mailto:[182]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 80. mailto:[183]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 81. [184]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 82. [185]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 83. [186]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 84. mailto:[187]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 85. [188]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 86. [189]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 87. [190]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 88. mailto:[191]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>> 89. mailto:[192]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> 90. mailto:[193]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 91. [194]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 92. [195]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 93. [196]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 94. mailto:[197]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>> 95. [198]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 96. [199]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>> 97. mailto:[200]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 98. [201]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>> 99. mailto:[202]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 100. mailto:[203]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 101. mailto:[204]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>> 102. [205]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>> 103. mailto:[206]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 104. mailto:[207]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 105. mailto:[208]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> 106. mailto:[209]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>
>> --
>>
>> --
>>
>> IN LIBERTY,
>> CARYN ANN HARLOS
>>
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> _We defend your rights_
>> _And oppose the use of force_
>> _Taxation is theft_
> --
>
> --
>
> IN LIBERTY,
> CARYN ANN HARLOS
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
> Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> _We defend your rights_
> _And oppose the use of force_
> _Taxation is theft_
>
> Links:
> ------
> [1] [210]http://ado.org/
> [2] [211]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [212]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
References
1. mailto:erin.adams at lp.org
2. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
4. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
5. mailto:sam.goldstein at lp.org
6. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
7. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
8. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
9. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
10. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
11. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
12. https://tinyurl.co/
13. http://www.lpcolor/
14. http://ado.org/
15. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
16. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
17. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
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19. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
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36. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
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39. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
40. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
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43. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
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49. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
50. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
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58. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
59. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
60. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
61. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
62. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
63. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
64. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
65. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
66. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
67. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
68. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
69. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
70. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
71. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
72. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
73. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
74. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
75. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
76. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
77. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
78. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
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80. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
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82. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
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84. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
85. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
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87. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
88. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
89. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
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92. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
93. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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95. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
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98. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
99. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
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103. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
104. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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108. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
109. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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114. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
115. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
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118. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
119. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
120. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
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125. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
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127. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
128. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
129. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
130. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
131. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
132. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
133. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
134. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
135. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
136. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
137. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
138. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
139. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
140. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
141. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
142. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
143. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
144. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
145. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
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147. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
148. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
149. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
150. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
151. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
152. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
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154. mailto:sam.goldstein at lp.org
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156. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
157. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
158. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
159. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
160. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
161. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
162. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
163. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
164. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
165. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
166. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
167. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
168. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
169. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
170. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
171. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
172. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
173. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
174. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
175. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
176. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
177. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
178. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
179. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
180. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
181. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
182. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
183. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
184. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
185. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
186. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
187. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
188. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
189. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
190. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
191. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
192. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
193. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
194. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
195. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
196. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
197. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
198. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
199. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
200. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
201. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
202. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
203. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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