[Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors - Motion for independent vote audit
john.phillips at lp.org
john.phillips at lp.org
Wed Jul 11 11:45:34 EDT 2018
I may be too late for this, but it needs to be said.
Yes I do support a vote audit, if only to provide our members clarity and closure. It is not that I do not think Alicia did fine work. She busted tail and everyone who helped is to be commended. Simply to confirm for our membership.
Now on to what may be too late. I submit that an audit is only good IF the currently understood members, of whichever vote gets audited, continue to serve pending results. Otherwise our body can not continue to function until the audit is complete. Indeed if we do not take that route we might theoretically be able to even complete the audit or anything for 2 years. That outcome is unacceptable and clearly NOT what the delegates intended.
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell 217-412-5973
------ Original message------From: john.phillips--- via Lnc-business Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2018 7:12 AMTo: Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business;Cc: john.phillips at lp.org;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors - Motion for independent vote audit
I will co-sponsor
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell 217-412-5973
------ Original message------From: Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2018 6:50 AMTo: lnc-business at hq.lp.org;Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors - Motion for independent vote audit
I co-sponsor.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 5:28 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> In the name of transparency, I move to that the LNC would have an audit
> of the At Large ballots done by two independent auditors appointed by
> the Chair, ie someone not in the race. I am asking for co-sponsors.
>
> ===
>
> I have been in contact with at least one state chair and several
> concerned Region 1 members in the last 6 hours who have asked why we
> aren't doing an independent audit and their thoughts resonate with my
> own in terms of transparency and fairness.
> Imagine if this was a government function and the person who an
> election by a narrow margin was the only one auditing. I am interested
> in preserving the integrity of the LNC and the only way to do this is
> with an independent audit. While I appreciate Alicia's efforts, I think
> it proper that she turns the task over.
> Richard Longstreth
>
> Region 1
>
--
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
I co-sponsor.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 5:28 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business
<[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
In the name of transparency, I move to that the LNC would have an
audit
of the At Large ballots done by two independent auditors
appointed by
the Chair, ie someone not in the race. I am asking for
co-sponsors.
===
I have been in contact with at least one state chair and several
concerned Region 1 members in the last 6 hours who have asked why
we
aren't doing an independent audit and their thoughts resonate
with my
own in terms of transparency and fairness.
Imagine if this was a government function and the person who an
election by a narrow margin was the only one auditing. I am
interested
in preserving the integrity of the LNC and the only way to do
this is
with an independent audit. While I appreciate Alicia's efforts, I
think
it proper that she turns the task over.
Richard Longstreth
Region 1
--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
References
1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
2. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
I will co-sponsor
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell [1]217-412-5973
------ Original message------
From: Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2018 6:50 AM
To: [2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos;
Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors - Motion for
independent vote audit
I co-sponsor.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 5:28 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business <[3]
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> In the name of transparency, I move to that the LNC would have an audit
> of the At Large ballots done by two independent auditors appointed by
> the Chair, ie someone not in the race. I am asking for co-sponsors.
>
> ===
>
> I have been in contact with at least one state chair and several
> concerned Region 1 members in the last 6 hours who have asked why we
> aren't doing an independent audit and their thoughts resonate with my
> own in terms of transparency and fairness.
> Imagine if this was a government function and the person who an
> election by a narrow margin was the only one auditing. I am interested
> in preserving the integrity of the LNC and the only way to do this is
> with an independent audit. While I appreciate Alicia's efforts, I think
> it proper that she turns the task over.
> Richard Longstreth
>
> Region 1
>
--
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - [4]Caryn.Ann.[5
]
Harlos at LP.org or[6] Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[7] LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
I co-sponsor.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 5:28 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business
<[1[8]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
In the name of transparency, I move to that the LNC would have an
audit
of the At Large ballots done by two independent auditors
appointed by
the Chair, ie someone not in the race. I am asking for
co-sponsors.
===
I have been in contact with at least one state chair and several
concerned Region 1 members in the last 6 hours who have asked why
we
aren't doing an independent audit and their thoughts resonate
with my
own in terms of transparency and fairness.
Imagine if this was a government function and the person who an
election by a narrow margin was the only one auditing. I am
interested
in preserving the integrity of the LNC and the only way to do
this is
with an independent audit. While I appreciate Alicia's efforts, I
think
it proper that she turns the task over.
Richard Longstreth
Region 1
--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [2][9]Caryn.Ann.[10] Harlos at LP.org or[11] Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[12] LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
References
1. mailto[13]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
2. mailto[14]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
References
1. tel:217-412-5973
2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
3. mailto:
lnc-business at hq.lp.org
4. http://Caryn.An/
5. mailto:
Harlos at LP.org
6. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
7. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
8. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
9. http://Caryn.An/
10. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
11. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
12. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
13. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
14. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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I may be too late for this, but it needs to be said.
Yes I do support a vote audit, if only to provide our members clarity
and closure. It is not that I do not think Alicia did fine work. She
busted tail and everyone who helped is to be commended. Simply to
confirm for our membership.
Now on to what may be too late. I submit that an audit is only good IF
the currently understood members, of whichever vote gets audited,
continue to serve pending results. Otherwise our body can not continue
to function until the audit is complete. Indeed if we do not take that
route we might theoretically be able to even complete the audit or
anything for 2 years. That outcome is unacceptable and clearly NOT
what the delegates intended.
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell [1]217-412-5973
------ Original message------
From: [2]john.phillips--- via Lnc-business
Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2018 7:12 AM
To: Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business;
Cc: [3]john.phillips at lp.org;
Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors - Motion for
independent vote audit
I will co-sponsor
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell [4]217-412-5973
------ Original message------From: Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business Date: Wed,
Jul 11, 2018 6:50 AMTo:[5] lnc-business at hq.lp.org;Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos;Subject:R
e: [Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors - Motion for independent vote audit
I co-sponsor.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 5:28 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business <[6]
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> In the name of transparency, I move to that the LNC would have an audit
> of the At Large ballots done by two independent auditors appointed by
> the Chair, ie someone not in the race. I am asking for co-sponsors.
>
> ===
>
> I have been in contact with at least one state chair and several
> concerned Region 1 members in the last 6 hours who have asked why we
> aren't doing an independent audit and their thoughts resonate with my
> own in terms of transparency and fairness.
> Imagine if this was a government function and the person who an
> election by a narrow margin was the only one auditing. I am interested
> in preserving the integrity of the LNC and the only way to do this is
> with an independent audit. While I appreciate Alicia's efforts, I think
> it proper that she turns the task over.
> Richard Longstreth
>
> Region 1
>
--
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - [7]Caryn.Ann.[8
]
Harlos at LP.org or[9] Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[10] LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
I co-sponsor.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 5:28 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business
<[1[11]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
In the name of transparency, I move to that the LNC would have an
audit
of the At Large ballots done by two independent auditors
appointed by
the Chair, ie someone not in the race. I am asking for
co-sponsors.
===
I have been in contact with at least one state chair and several
concerned Region 1 members in the last 6 hours who have asked why
we
aren't doing an independent audit and their thoughts resonate
with my
own in terms of transparency and fairness.
Imagine if this was a government function and the person who an
election by a narrow margin was the only one auditing. I am
interested
in preserving the integrity of the LNC and the only way to do
this is
with an independent audit. While I appreciate Alicia's efforts, I
think
it proper that she turns the task over.
Richard Longstreth
Region 1
--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [2][12]Caryn.Ann.[13] Harlos at LP.org or[14] Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[15] LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
References
1. mailto[16]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
2. mailto[17]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
I will co-sponsor
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell [1][18]217-412-5973
------ Original message------
From: Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2018 6:50 AM
To: [2[19]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos;
Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors - Motion for
independent vote audit
I co-sponsor.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 5:28 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business <[3][20]
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> In the name of transparency, I move to that the LNC would have an audit
> of the At Large ballots done by two independent auditors appointed by
> the Chair, ie someone not in the race. I am asking for co-sponsors.
>
> ===
>
> I have been in contact with at least one state chair and several
> concerned Region 1 members in the last 6 hours who have asked why we
> aren't doing an independent audit and their thoughts resonate with my
> own in terms of transparency and fairness.
> Imagine if this was a government function and the person who an
> election by a narrow margin was the only one auditing. I am interested
> in preserving the integrity of the LNC and the only way to do this is
> with an independent audit. While I appreciate Alicia's efforts, I think
> it proper that she turns the task over.
> Richard Longstreth
>
> Region 1
>
--
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - [4][21]Caryn.An
n.[5
][22]
Harlos at LP.org or[6][23] Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[7][24] LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
I co-sponsor.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 5:28 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business
<[1[8][25]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
In the name of transparency, I move to that the LNC would have an
audit
of the At Large ballots done by two independent auditors
appointed by
the Chair, ie someone not in the race. I am asking for
co-sponsors.
===
I have been in contact with at least one state chair and several
concerned Region 1 members in the last 6 hours who have asked why
we
aren't doing an independent audit and their thoughts resonate
with my
own in terms of transparency and fairness.
Imagine if this was a government function and the person who an
election by a narrow margin was the only one auditing. I am
interested
in preserving the integrity of the LNC and the only way to do
this is
with an independent audit. While I appreciate Alicia's efforts, I
think
it proper that she turns the task over.
Richard Longstreth
Region 1
--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [2][9][26]Caryn.Ann.[10][27] Harlos at LP.org or[11][28] Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[12][29] LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
References
1. mailto[13][30]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
2. mailto[14][31]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
References
1. tel:[32]217-412-5973
2. mailto[33]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
3. mailto:[34]
lnc-business at hq.lp.org
4. [35]http://Caryn.An/
5. mailto:[36]
Harlos at LP.org
6. mailto:[37] Secretary at LP.org.
7. mailto:[38] LPedia at LP.org
8. mailto:[39]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
9. [40]http://Caryn.An/
10. mailto:[41] Harlos at LP.org
11. mailto:[42] Secretary at LP.org.
12. mailto:[43] LPedia at LP.org
13. mailto:[44]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
14. mailto:[45]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
References
1. tel:217-412-5973
2. http://john.ph/
3. mailto:john.phillips at lp.org
4. tel:217-412-5973
5. mailto: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
6. mailto:
lnc-business at hq.lp.org
7. http://Caryn.An/
8. mailto:
Harlos at LP.org
9. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
10. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
11. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
12. http://Caryn.An/
13. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
14. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
15. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
16. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
17. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
18. tel:217-412-5973
19. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
20. mailto:
lnc-business at hq.lp.org
21. http://Caryn.An/
22. mailto:
Harlos at LP.org
23. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
24. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
25. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
26. http://Caryn.An/
27. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
28. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
29. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
30. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
31. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
32. tel:217-412-5973
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33. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
34. mailto:
lnc-business at hq.lp.org
35. http://Caryn.An/
36. mailto:
Harlos at LP.org
37. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
38. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
39. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
40. http://Caryn.An/
41. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
42. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
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