[Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors - Motion for independent vote audit
Sam Goldstein
sam.goldstein at lp.org
Wed Jul 11 18:02:16 EDT 2018
Before we start an email ballot on an independent audit I would like to
have answers to these questions from the sponsor and co-sponsors:
1. Who is going to do the independent audit
2. How will they meet and/or acquire the raw ballots to audit
3. What is the time line to finish the project
4. What is the cost for the independent audit and who is going to pay
for it
5. Is this going to limited to just the At Large election or will it
include the Judicial Committee
I bet others will come up with additional questions. Think about this
before you start asking for co-sponsors, please!
---
Sam Goldstein
Libertarian National Committee
317-850-0726 Cell
On 2018-07-11 11:45, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote:
> I may be too late for this, but it needs to be said.
> Yes I do support a vote audit, if only to provide our members
> clarity
> and closure. It is not that I do not think Alicia did fine work.
> She
> busted tail and everyone who helped is to be commended. Simply to
> confirm for our membership.
> Now on to what may be too late. I submit that an audit is only good
> IF
> the currently understood members, of whichever vote gets audited,
> continue to serve pending results. Otherwise our body can not
> continue
> to function until the audit is complete. Indeed if we do not take
> that
> route we might theoretically be able to even complete the audit or
> anything for 2 years. That outcome is unacceptable and clearly NOT
> what the delegates intended.
> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> Cell [1]217-412-5973
>
> ------ Original message------
> From: [2]john.phillips--- via Lnc-business
> Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2018 7:12 AM
> To: Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business;
> Cc: [3]john.phillips at lp.org;
> Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors - Motion for
> independent vote audit
> I will co-sponsor
> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> Cell [4]217-412-5973
> ------ Original message------From: Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
> Date: Wed,
> Jul 11, 2018 6:50 AMTo:[5] lnc-business at hq.lp.org;Cc: Caryn Ann
> Harlos;Subject:R
> e: [Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors - Motion for independent vote
> audit
> I co-sponsor.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 5:28 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business
> <[6]
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
>> In the name of transparency, I move to that the LNC would have an
>> audit
>> of the At Large ballots done by two independent auditors appointed
>> by
>> the Chair, ie someone not in the race. I am asking for co-sponsors.
>>
>> ===
>>
>> I have been in contact with at least one state chair and several
>> concerned Region 1 members in the last 6 hours who have asked why
>> we
>> aren't doing an independent audit and their thoughts resonate with
>> my
>> own in terms of transparency and fairness.
>> Imagine if this was a government function and the person who an
>> election by a narrow margin was the only one auditing. I am
>> interested
>> in preserving the integrity of the LNC and the only way to do this
>> is
>> with an independent audit. While I appreciate Alicia's efforts, I
>> think
>> it proper that she turns the task over.
>> Richard Longstreth
>>
>> Region 1
>>
> --
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
> [7]Caryn.Ann.[8
> ]
> Harlos at LP.org or[9] Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[10] LPedia at LP.org
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
> I co-sponsor.
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 5:28 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business
> <[1[11]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> In the name of transparency, I move to that the LNC would have
> an
> audit
> of the At Large ballots done by two independent auditors
> appointed by
> the Chair, ie someone not in the race. I am asking for
> co-sponsors.
> ===
> I have been in contact with at least one state chair and
> several
> concerned Region 1 members in the last 6 hours who have asked
> why
> we
> aren't doing an independent audit and their thoughts resonate
> with my
> own in terms of transparency and fairness.
> Imagine if this was a government function and the person who an
> election by a narrow margin was the only one auditing. I am
> interested
> in preserving the integrity of the LNC and the only way to do
> this is
> with an independent audit. While I appreciate Alicia's efforts,
> I
> think
> it proper that she turns the task over.
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1
>
> --
>
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> - [2][12]Caryn.Ann.[13] Harlos at LP.org or[14] Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[15] LPedia at LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto[16]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto[17]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>
> I will co-sponsor
> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> Cell [1][18]217-412-5973
>
> ------ Original message------
> From: Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
> Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2018 6:50 AM
> To: [2[19]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
> Cc: Caryn Ann Harlos;
> Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors - Motion for
> independent vote audit
> I co-sponsor.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 5:28 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business
> <[3][20]
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
>> In the name of transparency, I move to that the LNC would have an
>> audit
>> of the At Large ballots done by two independent auditors appointed
>> by
>> the Chair, ie someone not in the race. I am asking for co-sponsors.
>>
>> ===
>>
>> I have been in contact with at least one state chair and several
>> concerned Region 1 members in the last 6 hours who have asked why
>> we
>> aren't doing an independent audit and their thoughts resonate with
>> my
>> own in terms of transparency and fairness.
>> Imagine if this was a government function and the person who an
>> election by a narrow margin was the only one auditing. I am
>> interested
>> in preserving the integrity of the LNC and the only way to do this
>> is
>> with an independent audit. While I appreciate Alicia's efforts, I
>> think
>> it proper that she turns the task over.
>> Richard Longstreth
>>
>> Region 1
>>
> --
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
> [4][21]Caryn.An
> n.[5
> ][22]
> Harlos at LP.org or[6][23] Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[7][24] LPedia at LP.org
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
> I co-sponsor.
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 5:28 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business
> <[1[8][25]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> In the name of transparency, I move to that the LNC would have
> an
> audit
> of the At Large ballots done by two independent auditors
> appointed by
> the Chair, ie someone not in the race. I am asking for
> co-sponsors.
> ===
> I have been in contact with at least one state chair and
> several
> concerned Region 1 members in the last 6 hours who have asked
> why
> we
> aren't doing an independent audit and their thoughts resonate
> with my
> own in terms of transparency and fairness.
> Imagine if this was a government function and the person who an
> election by a narrow margin was the only one auditing. I am
> interested
> in preserving the integrity of the LNC and the only way to do
> this is
> with an independent audit. While I appreciate Alicia's efforts,
> I
> think
> it proper that she turns the task over.
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1
>
> --
>
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> - [2][9][26]Caryn.Ann.[10][27] Harlos at LP.org or[11][28]
> Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[12][29] LPedia at LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto[13][30]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto[14][31]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>
> References
>
> 1. tel:[32]217-412-5973
> 2. mailto[33]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto:[34]
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 4. [35]http://Caryn.An/
> 5. mailto:[36]
> Harlos at LP.org
> 6. mailto:[37] Secretary at LP.org.
> 7. mailto:[38] LPedia at LP.org
> 8. mailto:[39]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 9. [40]http://Caryn.An/
> 10. mailto:[41] Harlos at LP.org
> 11. mailto:[42] Secretary at LP.org.
> 12. mailto:[43] LPedia at LP.org
> 13. mailto:[44]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 14. mailto:[45]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>
> References
>
> 1. tel:217-412-5973
> 2. http://john.ph/
> 3. mailto:john.phillips at lp.org
> 4. tel:217-412-5973
> 5. mailto: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 6. mailto:
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 7. http://Caryn.An/
> 8. mailto:
> Harlos at LP.org
> 9. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
> 10. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
> 11. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 12. http://Caryn.An/
> 13. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
> 14. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
> 15. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
> 16. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 17. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 18. tel:217-412-5973
> 19. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 20. mailto:
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 21. http://Caryn.An/
> 22. mailto:
> Harlos at LP.org
> 23. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
> 24. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
> 25. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 26. http://Caryn.An/
> 27. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
> 28. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
> 29. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
> 30. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 31. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 32. tel:217-412-5973
> 2
> 33. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 34. mailto:
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 35. http://Caryn.An/
> 36. mailto:
> Harlos at LP.org
> 37. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
> 38. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
> 39. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 40. http://Caryn.An/
> 41. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
> 42. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
> 43. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
> 44. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 45. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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