[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-11: ACKNOWLEDGE ELECTION OF JC
erin.adams at lp.org
erin.adams at lp.org
Wed Jul 11 19:43:26 EDT 2018
I am glad we can agree on something. Just as you will continue to hold
your beliefs and stance, I will do the same. The difference being that I
am not telling you to move on even tho you insist that I do. I am happy
we have found agreement
On 2018-07-11 18:38, Elizabeth Van Horn wrote:
> No one is "diminishing" your stance. I also stated my opinion. Nor,
> am I not going to be silent when I see unwarranted accusations being
> tossed around on this list.
>
> Yes, that's my opinion. Also, the accusations that Caryn Ann has made
> about people being "silenced' is unwarranted. (Nor, am I the only to
> think this.)
>
> You don't have to agree, but neither do I have to be silent on this.
>
>
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
>
>
> On 2018-07-11 19:25, erin.adams at lp.org wrote:
>> Elizabeth,
>> It is an overall "feeling", Im clearly not the only person "feeling"
>> this, you dont have to agree, you dont have to acknowledge my stance
>> nor my feeling, you dont get to diminish my stance either. It is my
>> OPINION that there is a push to silence, like it or not, that IS my
>> belief. I dont need to justify that, it simply is.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2018-07-11 13:42, Elizabeth Van Horn wrote:
>>> Erin, what others? I haven't seen anyone on this list try to silence
>>> others. Most people have discussed, I added the type of feedback I'm
>>> getting in region 3, and what options they're wanting. Others have
>>> done the same. If anything there's been pressure put on those who
>>> want to move-on, by saying that people will bring up the topic
>>> constantly, and if a "yes" vote happens, that person immediately
>>> being
>>> gone after to change their vote.
>>>
>>> I have voted yet, as I'm still getting opinions from my region, but I
>>> can say that no one has shown an interest in rehashing the At-Large
>>> vote. For the JC, more seem inclined to just *not* have a JC, and
>>> have the body elect a new JC in 2020. (Some others wish to have us
>>> accept the top-seven vote-getters of the JC)
>>>
>>> If you have a complaint about a specific person, perhaps you could
>>> take it to them off list, but to accuse wholesale those who have
>>> discussed this issue, of "others" trying to silence people makes no
>>> sense.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2018-07-11 10:50, erin.adams--- via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>> Mr. Bishop-Henchman,
>>>> YOU may not be but others CERTAINLY are. The tone of many seems to
>>>> be
>>>> Shut up and get over it. Let me be clear that I have NO intention of
>>>> doing that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2018-07-11 09:40, Joe Bishop-Henchman wrote:
>>>>> Ms. Adams,
>>>>>
>>>>> By my count we have sent 400 emails to each other in a week. Ms.
>>>>> Harlos has sent 18 emails in the last twelve hours, more than I've
>>>>> sent in total in a week. People may gripe about it but no one is
>>>>> actually being silenced.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm doing my best to respond to points being made, answering
>>>>> questions
>>>>> and respectfully if energetically countering arguments. Your
>>>>> response
>>>>> to me was that the proposal I've sponsored is "bullshit,"
>>>>> "unacceptable," "gross," "vile," and "sickening." You then
>>>>> complained
>>>>> about the tone of the debate.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to have a good working relationship with all of you.
>>>>> On
>>>>> Bylaws, if I was on the winning side of votes I made sure the
>>>>> minority
>>>>> got a fair shake at presenting their views. If I was on the losing
>>>>> side, I accepted it and did my best to make sure that what we had
>>>>> passed worked. And I never resorted to name-calling or martyrdom.
>>>>> The
>>>>> enemy isn't on this Committee. The enemy are the people out there
>>>>> passing warrantless wiretapping, locking refugee kids up in cages,
>>>>> bombing the world, and spending us into oblivion. I promise I will
>>>>> keep sight of that and will greatly respect all of you who do also,
>>>>> even if we occasionally disagree on how we will do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> JBH
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2018-07-11 10:24, erin.adams--- via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>> With all due respect Sam, that simply isnt true. It is not true
>>>>>> that "
>>>>>> There is nothing we can do about it
>>>>>> at this point except live with it the best we can for two years."
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> honestly, Im sickened by the tactics Im seeing here from some in
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> attempt to FURTHER silence others. Its vile at best. Buckle up
>>>>>> folks,
>>>>>> if this is the tone that sets the way for THIS lnc,Many of you
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> hate me the end of this term. Alternate or not I WILL NOT be
>>>>>> dismissed
>>>>>> and silenced.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-07-09 20:09, Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>>> Caryn Ann,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We all acknowledge that the LNC At Large and JC elections went
>>>>>>> awry.
>>>>>>> There is nothing we can do about it
>>>>>>> at this point except live with it the best we can for two years.
>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>> will have a fix in place before the
>>>>>>> convention convenes at Austin that can be passed by the delegates
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> made effective immediately.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At the very least, take the discussion off the email ballot
>>>>>>> thread
>>>>>>> which is supposed to just be for recording
>>>>>>> votes on the motion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2018-07-09 20:55, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>>>> Oh my goodness. I am sorry but this is beyond belief.
>>>>>>>> I think our elections were handled wrongfully and I am
>>>>>>>> supposed to NOT
>>>>>>>> yell it from the rooftops? What Party am I in again?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 6:52 PM, John Phillips via
>>>>>>>> Lnc-business
>>>>>>>> <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Agreed, to a point. At some time, preaching to the choir
>>>>>>>> becomes
>>>>>>>> counter productive. As noted earlier, we are all aware
>>>>>>>> that it
>>>>>>>> sucked, and is a bad situation with no easy fix that will
>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>> everyone happy immediately. We all want to fix it, and fix
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> yesterday. I even agree with all of Caryn Ann's points,
>>>>>>>> and yours.
>>>>>>>> Bring it up once a week. Absolutely. Don't bring it up 5
>>>>>>>> times a
>>>>>>>> day. Stopping multiple times to read the same arguments
>>>>>>>> takes away
>>>>>>>> time from working on fixing it, and promoting the party in
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> ways. I love the passion, I really do, but beating us up
>>>>>>>> continually
>>>>>>>> on a point we 90% or more agree on IS counterproductive.
>>>>>>>> Let's move
>>>>>>>> on and FIX IT.
>>>>>>>> Don't shut up, but let's be productive, let's not let this
>>>>>>>> crap
>>>>>>>> happen again.
>>>>>>>> John Phillips
>>>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>>>>>> Cell 217-412-5973
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/9/2018 7:39 PM, Craig Bowden via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looking out for the membership and delegates is nothing to
>>>>>>>> be quiet
>>>>>>>> about. I personally hope it is brought up at least once a
>>>>>>>> week until
>>>>>>>> solutions are in place to prevent it from ever happening
>>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>>>> Craig Bowden
>>>>>>>> Region 1 Alternate
>>>>>>>> On 2018-07-09 18:33, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I respectfully decline.
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 6:29 PM, Sam Goldstein
>>>>>>>> <[1][2]sam.goldstein at lp.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann,
>>>>>>>> Just shut up about this already!
>>>>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>>>>>>>> On 2018-07-09 18:34, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> PS: Before this vote ends, I am going to put something
>>>>>>>> together
>>>>>>>> to try
>>>>>>>> to convince you that this is actually one of the
>>>>>>>> worst ways to
>>>>>>>> solve.
>>>>>>>> My first issue - that of steering the delegates down
>>>>>>>> that road
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> at-large is unsolvable- at least unsolvable in any
>>>>>>>> way that we
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> ever do. If it were up to me, I would punt it all
>>>>>>>> back to the
>>>>>>>> delegates.
>>>>>>>> The second issue - of how to handle this situation
>>>>>>>> with the JC
>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>> we are trying to solve it now and I think we are
>>>>>>>> solving it
>>>>>>>> wrong
>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>> ethically and procedurally.
>>>>>>>> And a remaining issue - is one where me and RONR come
>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>> conflict.
>>>>>>>> Rules are tools. Just because a rule allows
>>>>>>>> something doesn't
>>>>>>>> mean
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> is right, and this is probably why the first issue is
>>>>>>>> sticking
>>>>>>>> in my
>>>>>>>> craw so badly. It is fundamentally NOT RIGHT to
>>>>>>>> change the
>>>>>>>> rules of
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> election mid-way. There is a huge difference between
>>>>>>>> majority
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> plurality and our candidates deserve to know as it
>>>>>>>> effects the
>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> campaign. We treated them and their efforts as
>>>>>>>> pawns, and it
>>>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>>>> right.
>>>>>>>> I know some of you are thinking, just shut up about
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> already.
>>>>>>>> Well, I am a hard-nose on some things, and this is
>>>>>>>> one of
>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>> Just
>>>>>>>> like it was with the eternal secrecy clause last
>>>>>>>> term.
>>>>>>>> The only way we are going to learn as an organization
>>>>>>>> is if
>>>>>>>> this is
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> bit painful. And in so doing we will model
>>>>>>>> over-the-top
>>>>>>>> integrity
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> our members rather than political expediency.
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>> <[1][2][3]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> ==I get the anger. I'm angry. When we ultimately do
>>>>>>>> get the
>>>>>>>> state-by-state tallies, I'm sure we'll find that
>>>>>>>> hundreds of
>>>>>>>> delegates
>>>>>>>> didn't even vote in the two races because we put them
>>>>>>>> off so
>>>>>>>> long.
>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>> the 2016 convention, whole states didn't cast votes
>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>> At-Large
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> JC races. Them's the rules - elections are won by
>>>>>>>> those who
>>>>>>>> stay and
>>>>>>>> vote - but oh my did we make it hard. The combination
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> voting
>>>>>>>> methodology, tabulation method, and scheduling left
>>>>>>>> us in a
>>>>>>>> bad
>>>>>>>> place.===
>>>>>>>> You mean we ran in front of a racing car and now are
>>>>>>>> surprised
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>> ran over?
>>>>>>>> But it is more than that. The delegates were led to
>>>>>>>> make a
>>>>>>>> decision
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> a certain direction. There WERE other options.
>>>>>>>> Whether or
>>>>>>>> not one
>>>>>>>> agrees with the voting methodology, it is the
>>>>>>>> methodology and
>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>> intent was to use approval voting to show approval
>>>>>>>> and we
>>>>>>>> turned it
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> its head. Why weren't the delegates given other
>>>>>>>> options?
>>>>>>>> ==All that said, I don't want to just be angry and
>>>>>>>> complain.
>>>>>>>> As far
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> actions that can be taken, this resolution is the
>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>> reasonable.
>>>>>>>> Other possibilities - revotes or mail votes of all
>>>>>>>> Party
>>>>>>>> members or
>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>> filling the JC seats or setting multiple JCs in
>>>>>>>> motion - are
>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>> violative of the Bylaws and Rules.==
>>>>>>>> Are they all? I don't think so. And I do think my
>>>>>>>> very real
>>>>>>>> complaint
>>>>>>>> of how the delegates were steered in a certain
>>>>>>>> direction is
>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>> ignored at best (or maligned at worst).
>>>>>>>> ==The contrary view admittedly rests on a thread of
>>>>>>>> legality:
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> delegates expressed their wish to take the top
>>>>>>>> at-large
>>>>>>>> candidates
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> the Bylaws say the same applies for the JC. There's
>>>>>>>> also no
>>>>>>>> doubt in
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> mind that had they been asked they would have done
>>>>>>>> the same
>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>> JC.
>>>>>>>> A room of several hundred Libertarians were not
>>>>>>>> coerced into
>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> - they went with what Nick suggested because that's
>>>>>>>> what they
>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> do. He just told them how.===
>>>>>>>> And that is where the dispute is. Most of the people
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> trusted
>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>> (I use us as Nick was acting as the spokesperson of
>>>>>>>> the LNC
>>>>>>>> and this
>>>>>>>> isn't about Nick ultimately) not to tell them what
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> wanted.
>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>> were presented with two choices in which they were
>>>>>>>> led down a
>>>>>>>> particular path. You are an attorney Joe, you know
>>>>>>>> exactly
>>>>>>>> what I
>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>> getting at here.
>>>>>>>> Do you really think that if they were offered a
>>>>>>>> majority
>>>>>>>> rising vote
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> the spot to choose between options they would not
>>>>>>>> have taken
>>>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>> never ocurred to most of them that there WERE any
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> options. It
>>>>>>>> didn't immediately occur to me and I am well-versed
>>>>>>>> in this
>>>>>>>> stuff.
>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>> stinks. If a government acted this way we would be
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> lathered up.
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Joe Bishop-Henchman
>>>>>>>> <[2][3][4]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I get the anger. I'm angry. When we ultimately do
>>>>>>>> get the
>>>>>>>> state-by-state tallies, I'm sure we'll find that
>>>>>>>> hundreds of
>>>>>>>> delegates didn't even vote in the two races because
>>>>>>>> we put
>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>>> so long. In the 2016 convention, whole states
>>>>>>>> didn't cast
>>>>>>>> votes in
>>>>>>>> the At-Large and JC races. Them's the rules -
>>>>>>>> elections are
>>>>>>>> won by
>>>>>>>> those who stay and vote - but oh my did we make it
>>>>>>>> hard. The
>>>>>>>> combination of voting methodology, tabulation
>>>>>>>> method, and
>>>>>>>> scheduling
>>>>>>>> left us in a bad place.
>>>>>>>> All that said, I don't want to just be angry and
>>>>>>>> complain.
>>>>>>>> As far
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> actions that can be taken, this resolution is the
>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>> reasonable.
>>>>>>>> Other possibilities - revotes or mail votes of all
>>>>>>>> Party
>>>>>>>> members
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> us filling the JC seats or setting multiple JCs in
>>>>>>>> motion -
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>> more violative of the Bylaws and Rules.
>>>>>>>> I do not dispute that one can reasonably argue that
>>>>>>>> every JC
>>>>>>>> candidate was disapproved and that it should sit
>>>>>>>> empty until
>>>>>>>> 2022.
>>>>>>>> The contrary view admittedly rests on a thread of
>>>>>>>> legality:
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> delegates expressed their wish to take the top
>>>>>>>> at-large
>>>>>>>> candidates
>>>>>>>> and the Bylaws say the same applies for the JC.
>>>>>>>> There's also
>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>> doubt in my mind that had they been asked they
>>>>>>>> would have
>>>>>>>> done the
>>>>>>>> same for the JC. A room of several hundred
>>>>>>>> Libertarians were
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> coerced into doing that - they went with what Nick
>>>>>>>> suggested
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>> that's what they wanted to do. He just told them
>>>>>>>> how. They
>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>> want the LNC fighting over who would fill the seats
>>>>>>>> if they
>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>> left vacant.
>>>>>>>> I doubt I'm going to convince you but I did want to
>>>>>>>> write
>>>>>>>> this to
>>>>>>>> emphasize that at least I am not sanguine or
>>>>>>>> sweeping
>>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>>> blithely under the rug. I expect rethinking how we
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> elections
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> be a big priority for many of us.
>>>>>>>> JBH
>>>>>>>> On 2018-07-09 16:46, Caryn Ann Harlos via
>>>>>>>> Lnc-business
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Suspension of the rules has to be specific and
>>>>>>>> there is no
>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>> the fact that we used the number 5 over and
>>>>>>>> over.
>>>>>>>> This is taking things to an even deeper level of
>>>>>>>> improper. I
>>>>>>>> object to
>>>>>>>> the whole at-Large process- I don’t think the
>>>>>>>> delegates
>>>>>>>> made an
>>>>>>>> independent choice and now to just infer this
>>>>>>>> upon that
>>>>>>>> is two
>>>>>>>> bridges
>>>>>>>> too far.
>>>>>>>> This is a big screwup and I won’t be part of
>>>>>>>> sweeping it
>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>> the rug.
>>>>>>>> It alarms me to no end how blithely the whole
>>>>>>>> situation
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>> taken.
>>>>>>>> There are people looking at us and seeing
>>>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> government we wish to reform.
>>>>>>>> There was a controversial election and at least
>>>>>>>> one state
>>>>>>>> chair
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> candidate has been asking for the state by state
>>>>>>>> rallies
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>> frame given him.
>>>>>>>> The whole thing was an affront to people
>>>>>>>> expecting an
>>>>>>>> entirely
>>>>>>>> different thing when they ran. I will not be
>>>>>>>> sanguine
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 2:20 PM Whitney Bilyeu
>>>>>>>> <[1][3][4][5]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> This point did come up immediately after
>>>>>>>> adjournment,
>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>> Nick
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> still at the mic. I don't recall who brought
>>>>>>>> it up, but
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> statement
>>>>>>>> was made that it would follow the same
>>>>>>>> procedure as
>>>>>>>> At-Large
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> point, since we were no longer in session.
>>>>>>>> No one raised the question prior to that.
>>>>>>>> Whitney Bilyeu
>>>>>>>> Region 7 Representative
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>> Harlos via
>>>>>>>> Lnc-business
>>>>>>>> <[2][4][5][6]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Joshua they were not given a choice on
>>>>>>>> this. The
>>>>>>>> JC
>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>> came
>>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:47 AM
>>>>>>>> <[1][3][5][6][7]joshua.smith at lp.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I vote yes. Given that the delegates were
>>>>>>>> given the
>>>>>>>> choice
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> convention
>>>>>>>> just a few short days ago, I believe we
>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>> respect
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> decision.
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Joshua D. Smith
>>>>>>>> On 2018-07-07 22:23, Caryn Ann Harlos via
>>>>>>>> Lnc-business
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> > We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes
>>>>>>>> are due
>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>> LNC-Business
>>>>>>>> > list by July 14, 2018 at 11:59:59pm
>>>>>>>> Pacific
>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>> Co-Sponsors:
>>>>>>>> > Bishop-Henchman, Goldstein, Hagan,
>>>>>>>> Merced, Van
>>>>>>>> Horn
>>>>>>>> Motion:
>>>>>>>> Move
>>>>>>>> > that
>>>>>>>> > the Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>>> acknowledge
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> election of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> > following to the Judicial Committee
>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>> four-year
>>>>>>>> term:
>>>>>>>> D.
>>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>> > Robinson, Chuck Moulton, Darryl Perry,
>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>> Bennett,
>>>>>>>> Geoff
>>>>>>>> Neale,
>>>>>>>> > Jim
>>>>>>>> > Turney, and Tricia Sprankle. You can
>>>>>>>> keep track
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Secretary's
>>>>>>>> > manual tally of votes here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1][2][4][6][7][8]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>>> > In Liberty,
>>>>>>>> > Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>> > Region 1 Representative,
>>>>>>>> Libertarian
>>>>>>>> National
>>>>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>>> (Alaska,
>>>>>>>> > Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
>>>>>>>> Montana,
>>>>>>>> Utah,
>>>>>>>> Wyoming,
>>>>>>>> > Washington)
>>>>>>>> > - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> > Communications Director,
>>>>>>>> [3]Libertarian
>>>>>>>> Party of
>>>>>>>> Colorado
>>>>>>>> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation
>>>>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>>> > A haiku to the Statement of
>>>>>>>> Principles:
>>>>>>>> > We defend your rights
>>>>>>>> > And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>> > Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > References
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > 1.
>>>>>>>> [3][5][7][8][9]https://tinyurl.co
>>>>>>>> m/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> > 2.
>>>>>>>> mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> > 3.
>>>>>>>> [5][6][8][9][10]http://www.lpcolor
>>>>>>>> ado.org/
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian
>>>>>>>> National
>>>>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>>> Secretary
>>>>>>>> - [6]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>>>>>>>> Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation
>>>>>>>> Committee -
>>>>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>>>> mailto:[7][9][10][11]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>>>> [8][10][11][12]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 3.
>>>>>>>> [9][11][12][13]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 4. mailto:[10]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> 5.
>>>>>>>> [11][12][13][14]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 6. mailto:[12]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
>>>>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>>> Secretary
>>>>>>>> - [13]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>>>>>>>> Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>>>>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>> 1. mailto:[13][14][15]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 2. mailto:[14][15][16]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> 3. mailto:[15][16][17]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 4. [16][17][18]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 5. [17][18][19]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 6. [18][19][20]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 7. mailto:[19][20][21]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 8. [20][21][22]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 9. [21][22][23]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 10. mailto:[22]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> 11. [23][23][24]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 12. mailto:[24]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> 13. mailto:[25]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> JBH
>>>>>>>> ------------
>>>>>>>> Joe Bishop-Henchman
>>>>>>>> LNC Member (At-Large)
>>>>>>>> [26][24][25]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>> [27][25][26]www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
>>>>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>>> Secretary
>>>>>>>> - [28]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>>>>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
>>>>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>>> Secretary
>>>>>>>> - [29]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>>>>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>> 1. mailto:[26][27]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 2. mailto:[27][28]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 3. mailto:[28][29]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 4. mailto:[29][30]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> 5. mailto:[30][31]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 6. [31][32]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 7. [32][33]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 8. [33][34]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 9. mailto:[34][35]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 10. [35][36]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 11. [36][37]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 12. [37][38]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 13. mailto:[38][39]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 14. mailto:[39][40]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> 15. mailto:[40][41]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 16. [41][42]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 17. [42][43]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 18. [43][44]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 19. mailto:[44][45]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 20. [45][46]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 21. [46][47]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 22. mailto:[47]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> 23. [48][48]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 24. mailto:[49]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> 25. mailto:[50]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> 26. mailto:[51][49]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 27.
>>>>>>>> [52][50]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>>>> 28. mailto:[53]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> 29. mailto:[54]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>>> Secretary
>>>>>>>> - [55]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>>>>>>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>> 1. mailto:[51]sam.goldstein at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 2. mailto:[52]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 3. mailto:[53]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 4. mailto:[54]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 5. mailto:[55]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> 6. mailto:[56]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 7. [57]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 8. [58]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 9. [59]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 10. mailto:[60]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 11. [61]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 12. [62]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 13. [63]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 14. mailto:[64]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 15. mailto:[65]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> 16. mailto:[66]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 17. [67]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 18. [68]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 19. [69]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 20. mailto:[70]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 21. [71]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 22. [72]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 23. [73]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 24. mailto:[74]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 25. [75]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>>>> 26. mailto:[76]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 27. mailto:[77]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 28. mailto:[78]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 29. mailto:[79]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> 30. mailto:[80]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 31. [81]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 32. [82]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 33. [83]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 34. mailto:[84]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 35. [85]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 36. [86]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 37. [87]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 38. mailto:[88]whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 39. mailto:[89]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> 40. mailto:[90]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 41. [91]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 42. [92]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 43. [93]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 44. mailto:[94]joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 45. [95]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 46. [96]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 47. mailto:[97]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> 48. [98]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 49. mailto:[99]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> 50. mailto:[100]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> 51. mailto:[101]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 52. [102]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>>>> 53. mailto:[103]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> 54. mailto:[104]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> 55. mailto:[105]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>>> Secretary
>>>>>>>> - [106]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> 2. mailto:sam.goldstein at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 3. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 4. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 5. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 6. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> 7. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 8. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 9. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 10. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 11. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 12. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 13. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 14. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 15. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 16. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> 17. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 18. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 19. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 20. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 21. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 22. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 23. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 24. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 25. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 26. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>>>> 27. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 28. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 29. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 30. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> 31. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 32. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 33. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 34. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 35. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 36. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 37. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 38. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 39. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 40. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> 41. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 42. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 43. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 44. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 45. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 46. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 47. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 48. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 49. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 50. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>>>> 51. mailto:sam.goldstein at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 52. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 53. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 54. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 55. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> 56. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 57. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 58. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 59. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 60. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 61. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 62. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 63. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 64. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 65. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> 66. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 67. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 68. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 69. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 70. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 71. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 72. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 73. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 74. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 75. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>>>> 76. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 77. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 78. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 79. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> 80. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 81. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 82. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 83. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 84. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 85. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 86. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 87. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 88. mailto:whitney.bilyeu at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 89. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> 90. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 91. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 92. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 93. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 94. mailto:joshua.smith at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 95. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 96. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>>>> 97. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> 98. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>> 99. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> 100. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> 101. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>>>>>>> 102. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>>>>>>> 103. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> 104. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> 105. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>> 106. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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