[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-12: INDEPENDENT AUDIT OF AT-LARGE VOTE RESULTS
Caryn Ann Harlos
caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Wed Jul 18 08:51:13 EDT 2018
Thank you - you are correct.
Revised:
I don't have votes recorded for the following: Bilyeu/Adams, Lark/Hogarth,
Lyons, Mattson, Sarwark
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 6:48 AM, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> Or Hewitt
>
> JBH
>
> ------------
> Joe Bishop-Henchman
> LNC Member (At-Large)
> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>
>
> On 2018-07-18 08:44, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
>
>> I don't see a vote recorded for Lark/Hogarth.
>>
>> ---
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>
>>
>> On 2018-07-18 08:09, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>
>>> Reminder that the deadline on this is tomorrow as per the ballot
>>> announcement but that there is a challenge to the end time so be sure
>>> to vote tonight by midnight if you want to be absolutely sure your
>>> vote
>>> is counted.
>>> I don't have votes recorded for the following: Bilyeu/Adams, Lyons,
>>> Mattson, Sarwark
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business
>>> <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think we should use whichever time zone the secretary feels is
>>> optimal for her convenience. To me, it seems like you'd want to
>>> do it
>>> all on Mountain Time so that when you put a mail ballot out you
>>> don't
>>> have to take the extra step of asking what day it is in another
>>> time
>>> zone. Just add 7 days to whatever date it is for you when you
>>> send
>>> it. But whatever time zone you pick as the start point, that
>>> same time
>>> zone must be used as the end point.
>>> The two reasonable interpretations of the 7-day period are:
>>> 1) 7 days * 24 hours = 168 hours - so it would end exactly 168
>>> hours
>>> later to the second, and we'd all have to pay attention to the
>>> time of
>>> day on each email ballot to make sure our votes are cast on time
>>> 2) 7 calendar days, in the sense that something that happens at
>>> any
>>> time on Wednesday is only one day after Tuesday. We've used this
>>> approach so we could have a consistent ending time of 11:59:59 on
>>> the
>>> 7th day, and we don't have to remember different ending times for
>>> each
>>> mail ballot.
>>> For this email ballot to start at 11:53 Pacific on June 11, and
>>> end at
>>> 11:59:59 Pacific on June 19, that means it is open for 8 periods
>>> of 24
>>> hours plus 7 minutes, though the bylaws prescribe a 7-day voting
>>> period.
>>> Ending instead at 11:59:59 on June 18 means it is open for 7 days
>>> and 7
>>> minutes.
>>> Any vote that is cast on the 8th day should not be counted, per
>>> LP
>>> Bylaws which prescribe a 7-day vote. I don't see a good argument
>>> that
>>> a 7-day time frame runs longer than 8 days. I urge my fellow LNC
>>> members to vote by the 18th so as to avoid it being questioned
>>> whether
>>> or not it should be counted.
>>> -Alicia
>>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 7:27 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via
>>> Lnc-business
>>> <[1][2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> Not sure a Bylaws change is required Joe- this has been
>>> custom
>>> and I’m
>>> willing to hear your custom.
>>> If this is going to be issue. I’m just going to do
>>> everything by
>>> mountain time or eastern time.
>>> But we sure do find a way to major on the minors.
>>> This vote end date I am leaving the same pending a
>>> correction by
>>> the
>>> Chiair but members should take note.
>>> Future ones I’ll take care of at a different time of day or
>>> switch the
>>> custom to something more convenient to me. My job is
>>> eastern
>>> time so
>>> that is what I would likely choose and everyone seems very
>>> familiar
>>> with that as a standard.
>>> One thing I’m not going to do is argue about it.
>>> -Caryn Ann
>>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 7:36 AM Joe Bishop-Henchman
>>>
>>> <[1][2][3]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org> wrote:
>>> Not on this point precisely, but I do have a suggestion in
>>> this
>>> regard
>>> that would not require a Bylaws change. Rather than making the
>>> due
>>> date
>>> at midnight PT as is current custom, instead it being noon PT
>>> or
>>> 5pm
>>> PT.
>>> We in DC certainly love our midnight deadlines on government
>>> shutdowns
>>> and budget deals and whatnot but it does result in unnecessary
>>> late
>>> nights.
>>> When I was chair of Bylaws, I had a couple occasions of being
>>> up
>>> until
>>> 3am (midnight PT) to immediately begin votes on submitted
>>> proposals
>>> or
>>> to process results, particularly on series of related e-mail
>>> ballots
>>> (amendments to a proposal, or motions to reconsider) near our
>>> final
>>> deadline where we couldn't lose a day. I know we have some
>>> night
>>> owls
>>> but I might prefer if we didn't technically transact business
>>> in
>>> the
>>> middle of the night.
>>> JBH
>>> On 2018-07-13 23:20, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> > I always understood it to be given the benefit of the doubt
>>> on
>>> both
>>> > ends per your email to the list in 2016 to interpret
>>> things
>>> the
>>> most
>>> > generous way possible. That is my interpretation and I
>>> ask
>>> the
>>> > Chair’s
>>> > advice on this.
>>> > I have been calculating the beginning date as Mountain
>>> and
>>> end
>>> as
>>> > Pacific to give the most generous interpretation. This
>>> only
>>> comes
>>> > into
>>> > play in the two hour window around midnight which though
>>> is a
>>> > typical
>>> > work time for me.
>>> > -Caryn Ann
>>> > On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 9:03 PM Alicia Mattson via
>>> Lnc-business
>>>
>>> > <[1][2][3][4]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Okay, this is a time zone issue, but shouldn't this
>>> email
>>> > ballot
>>> > end on
>>> > July 18 instead of July 19?
>>> > If the end date is for the Pacific time zone,
>>> shouldn't
>>> the
>>> > start
>>> > date
>>> > also be considered as the Pacific time zone? When
>>> this
>>> was
>>> > sent,
>>> > it
>>> > was July 12 in Colorado, but it was still July 11 in
>>> Pacific
>>> > time...
>>> > Then 7 days would make it end a second before
>>> midnight
>>> on
>>> July
>>> > 18
>>> > instead. With it starting on July 11 Pacific but
>>> ending
>>> on
>>> > July
>>> > 19
>>> > Pacific, we're spanning 8 days rather than 7 days.
>>> > -Alicia
>>> > On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:53 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> via
>>> > Lnc-business
>>>
>>> > <[1][2][3][4][5]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> > We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are
>>> due
>>> to
>>> the
>>> > LNC-Business
>>> > list by July 19, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific
>>> time.
>>> > Co-Sponsors:
>>> > Bowden,
>>> > Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson
>>> > Motion: Move that the LNC would have an audit
>>> of
>>> the
>>> At
>>> > Large
>>> > ballots
>>> > done by two independent auditors appointed by
>>> the
>>> Chair,
>>> > ie
>>> > someone not
>>> > in the race. You can keep track of the
>>> Secretary's
>>> manual
>>> > tally
>>> > of
>>>
>>> > votes here:
>>> [1][2][3][4][5][6]https://tinyurl.
>>> com/lncvoting
>>> > --
>>> > --
>>> > In Liberty,
>>> > Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
>>> Committee
>>> > Secretary
>>> > - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
>>> Secretary at LP.org.
>>> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>> -
>>> > LPedia at LP.org
>>> > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> > We defend your rights
>>> > And oppose the use of force
>>> > Taxation is theft
>>> > References
>>> > 1. [3][4][5][6][7]https://tinyurl.
>>> com/lncvoting
>>> > 2. mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>> > References
>>> > 1. mailto:[5][6][7][8]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> > 2. [6][7][8][9]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> > 3. [7][8][9][10]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> > 4. mailto:[8]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > In Liberty,
>>> > Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>>> Secretary
>>> > - [9]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
>>> LPedia at LP.org
>>> > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> > We defend your rights
>>> > And oppose the use of force
>>> > Taxation is theft
>>> >
>>> > References
>>> >
>>> > 1. mailto:[9][10][11]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> > 2. mailto:[10][11][12]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> > 3. [11][12][13]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> > 4. [12][13][14]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> > 5. mailto:[13][14][15]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> > 6. [14][15][16]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> > 7. [15][16][17]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> > 8. mailto:[16]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>> > 9. mailto:[17]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>> --
>>> JBH
>>> ------------
>>> Joe Bishop-Henchman
>>> LNC Member (At-Large)
>>> [18][17][18]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>> [19][18][19]www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>> --
>>> --
>>> In Liberty,
>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>>> Secretary
>>> - [20]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> We defend your rights
>>> And oppose the use of force
>>> Taxation is theft
>>> References
>>> 1. mailto:[19][20]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>> 2. mailto:[20][21]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 3. mailto:[21][22]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 4. [22][23]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 5. [23][24]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 6. mailto:[24][25]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 7. [25][26]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 8. [26][27]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 9. mailto:[27][28]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 10. mailto:[28][29]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 11. [29][30]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 12. [30][31]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 13. mailto:[31][32]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 14. [32][33]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 15. [33][34]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 16. mailto:[34]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>> 17. mailto:[35]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>> 18. mailto:[36][35]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>> 19. [37][36]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>> 20. mailto:[38]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>> References
>>> 1. mailto:[37]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 2. mailto:[38]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>> 3. mailto:[39]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 4. mailto:[40]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 5. [41]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 6. [42]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 7. mailto:[43]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 8. [44]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 9. [45]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 10. mailto:[46]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 11. mailto:[47]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 12. [48]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 13. [49]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 14. mailto:[50]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 15. [51]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 16. [52]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 17. mailto:[53]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>> 18. [54]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>> 19. mailto:[55]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>> 20. mailto:[56]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 21. mailto:[57]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 22. [58]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 23. [59]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 24. mailto:[60]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 25. [61]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 26. [62]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 27. mailto:[63]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 28. mailto:[64]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 29. [65]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 30. [66]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 31. mailto:[67]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 32. [68]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 33. [69]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 34. mailto:[70]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>> 35. mailto:[71]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>> 36. mailto:[72]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>> 37. [73]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>> 38. mailto:[74]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> In Liberty,
>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>>> - [75]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> We defend your rights
>>> And oppose the use of force
>>> Taxation is theft
>>>
>>> References
>>>
>>> 1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 3. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>> 4. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 5. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 6. https://tinyurl/
>>> 7. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 8. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 9. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 10. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 11. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 12. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 13. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 14. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 15. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 16. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 17. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 18. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>> 19. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>> 20. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>> 21. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 22. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 23. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 24. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 25. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 26. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 27. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 28. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 29. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 30. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 31. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 32. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 33. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 34. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 35. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>> 36. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>> 37. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 38. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>> 39. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 40. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 41. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 42. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 43. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 44. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 45. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 46. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 47. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 48. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 49. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 50. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 51. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 52. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 53. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>> 54. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>> 55. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>> 56. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 57. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 58. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 59. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 60. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 61. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 62. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 63. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 64. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 65. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 66. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 67. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 68. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 69. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>> 70. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>> 71. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>> 72. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>>> 73. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>>> 74. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>> 75. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>
>>
--
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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Thank you - you are correct.
Revised:
I don't have votes recorded for the following: Bilyeu/Adams,
Lark/Hogarth, Lyons, Mattson, Sarwark
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 6:48 AM, Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business
<[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
Or Hewitt
JBH
------------
Joe Bishop-Henchman
LNC Member (At-Large)
[2]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
[3]www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
On 2018-07-18 08:44, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
I don't see a vote recorded for Lark/Hogarth.
---
Elizabeth Van Horn
On 2018-07-18 08:09, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
Reminder that the deadline on this is tomorrow as per the ballot
announcement but that there is a challenge to the end time so be
sure
to vote tonight by midnight if you want to be absolutely sure
your vote
is counted.
I don't have votes recorded for the following: Bilyeu/Adams,
Lyons,
Mattson, Sarwark
On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business
<[1][4]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
I think we should use whichever time zone the secretary
feels is
optimal for her convenience. To me, it seems like you'd
want to
do it
all on Mountain Time so that when you put a mail ballot out
you
don't
have to take the extra step of asking what day it is in
another
time
zone. Just add 7 days to whatever date it is for you when
you
send
it. But whatever time zone you pick as the start point,
that
same time
zone must be used as the end point.
The two reasonable interpretations of the 7-day period are:
1) 7 days * 24 hours = 168 hours - so it would end exactly
168
hours
later to the second, and we'd all have to pay attention to
the
time of
day on each email ballot to make sure our votes are cast on
time
2) 7 calendar days, in the sense that something that
happens at
any
time on Wednesday is only one day after Tuesday. We've used
this
approach so we could have a consistent ending time of
11:59:59 on
the
7th day, and we don't have to remember different ending
times for
each
mail ballot.
For this email ballot to start at 11:53 Pacific on June 11,
and
end at
11:59:59 Pacific on June 19, that means it is open for 8
periods
of 24
hours plus 7 minutes, though the bylaws prescribe a 7-day
voting
period.
Ending instead at 11:59:59 on June 18 means it is open for 7
days
and 7
minutes.
Any vote that is cast on the 8th day should not be counted,
per
LP
Bylaws which prescribe a 7-day vote. I don't see a good
argument
that
a 7-day time frame runs longer than 8 days. I urge my
fellow LNC
members to vote by the 18th so as to avoid it being
questioned
whether
or not it should be counted.
-Alicia
On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 7:27 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via
Lnc-business
<[1][2][5]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
Not sure a Bylaws change is required Joe- this has been
custom
and I’m
willing to hear your custom.
If this is going to be issue. I’m just going to do
everything by
mountain time or eastern time.
But we sure do find a way to major on the minors.
This vote end date I am leaving the same pending a
correction by
the
Chiair but members should take note.
Future ones I’ll take care of at a different time of
day or
switch the
custom to something more convenient to me. My job is
eastern
time so
that is what I would likely choose and everyone seems
very
familiar
with that as a standard.
One thing I’m not going to do is argue about it.
-Caryn Ann
On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 7:36 AM Joe Bishop-Henchman
<[1][2][3][6]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org> wrote:
Not on this point precisely, but I do have a suggestion
in this
regard
that would not require a Bylaws change. Rather than
making the
due
date
at midnight PT as is current custom, instead it being
noon PT
or
5pm
PT.
We in DC certainly love our midnight deadlines on
government
shutdowns
and budget deals and whatnot but it does result in
unnecessary
late
nights.
When I was chair of Bylaws, I had a couple occasions of
being
up
until
3am (midnight PT) to immediately begin votes on submitted
proposals
or
to process results, particularly on series of related
e-mail
ballots
(amendments to a proposal, or motions to reconsider) near
our
final
deadline where we couldn't lose a day. I know we have
some
night
owls
but I might prefer if we didn't technically transact
business
in
the
middle of the night.
JBH
On 2018-07-13 23:20, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
wrote:
> I always understood it to be given the benefit of the
doubt
on
both
> ends per your email to the list in 2016 to interpret
things
the
most
> generous way possible. That is my interpretation
and I
ask
the
> Chair’s
> advice on this.
> I have been calculating the beginning date as
Mountain and
end
as
> Pacific to give the most generous interpretation.
This
only
comes
> into
> play in the two hour window around midnight which
though
is a
> typical
> work time for me.
> -Caryn Ann
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 9:03 PM Alicia Mattson via
Lnc-business
> <[1][2][3][4][7]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> Okay, this is a time zone issue, but shouldn't
this
email
> ballot
> end on
> July 18 instead of July 19?
> If the end date is for the Pacific time zone,
shouldn't
the
> start
> date
> also be considered as the Pacific time zone?
When
this
was
> sent,
> it
> was July 12 in Colorado, but it was still July
11 in
Pacific
> time...
> Then 7 days would make it end a second before
midnight
on
July
> 18
> instead. With it starting on July 11 Pacific
but
ending
on
> July
> 19
> Pacific, we're spanning 8 days rather than 7
days.
> -Alicia
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:53 PM, Caryn Ann
Harlos
via
> Lnc-business
> <[1][2][3][4][5][8]lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
wrote:
> We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes
are
due
to
the
> LNC-Business
> list by July 19, 2018 at 11:59:59pm
Pacific
time.
> Co-Sponsors:
> Bowden,
> Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson
> Motion: Move that the LNC would have an
audit
of
the
At
> Large
> ballots
> done by two independent auditors
appointed by
the
Chair,
> ie
> someone not
> in the race. You can keep track of the
Secretary's
manual
> tally
> of
> votes here:
[1][2][3][4][5][6][9]https://tinyurl.
com/lncvoting
> --
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian
National
Committee
> Secretary
> - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation
Committee
-
> LPedia at LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of
Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
> References
> 1. [3][4][5][6][7][10]https://tinyurl.
com/lncvoting
> 2. mailto:[4]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> References
> 1. mailto:[5][6][7][8][11]lnc-busines
s at hq.lp.org
> 2. [6][7][8][9][12]https://tinyurl.co
m/lncvoting
> 3. [7][8][9][10][13]https://tinyurl.c
om/lncvoting
> 4. mailto:[8]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>
> --
>
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
Committee
Secretary
> - [9]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or
Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
LPedia at LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:[9][10][11][14]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[10][11][12][15]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 3. [11][12][13][16]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 4. [12][13][14][17]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 5. mailto:[13][14][15][18]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 6. [14][15][16][19]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 7. [15][16][17][20]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> 8. mailto:[16]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 9. mailto:[17]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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JBH
------------
Joe Bishop-Henchman
LNC Member (At-Large)
[18][17][18][21]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
[19][18][19][22]www.facebook.com/
groups/189510455174837
--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
Secretary
- [20]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -
LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
References
1. mailto:[19][20][23]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
2. mailto:[20][21][24]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
3. mailto:[21][22][25]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
4. [22][23][26]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
5. [23][24][27]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
6. mailto:[24][25][28]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
7. [25][26][29]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
8. [26][27][30]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
9. mailto:[27][28][31]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
10. mailto:[28][29][32]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
11. [29][30][33]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
12. [30][31][34]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
13. mailto:[31][32][35]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
14. [32][33][36]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
15. [33][34][37]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
16. mailto:[34]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
17. mailto:[35]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
18. mailto:[36][35][38]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
19. [37][36][39]http://www.facebook.co
m/groups/189510455174837
20. mailto:[38]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
References
1. mailto:[37][40]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
2. mailto:[38][41]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
3. mailto:[39][42]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
4. mailto:[40][43]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
5. [41][44]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
6. [42][45]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
7. mailto:[43][46]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
8. [44][47]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
9. [45][48]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
10. mailto:[46][49]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
11. mailto:[47][50]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
12. [48][51]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
13. [49][52]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
14. mailto:[50][53]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
15. [51][54]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
16. [52][55]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
17. mailto:[53][56]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
18. [54][57]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
19. mailto:[55][58]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
20. mailto:[56][59]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
21. mailto:[57][60]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
22. [58][61]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
23. [59][62]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
24. mailto:[60][63]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
25. [61][64]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
26. [62][65]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
27. mailto:[63][66]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
28. mailto:[64][67]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
29. [65][68]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
30. [66][69]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
31. mailto:[67][70]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
32. [68][71]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
33. [69][72]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
34. mailto:[70]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
35. mailto:[71]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
36. mailto:[72][73]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
37. [73][74]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
38. mailto:[74]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [75]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
References
1. mailto:[75]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
2. mailto:[76]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
3. mailto:[77]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
4. mailto:[78]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
5. mailto:[79]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
6. [80]https://tinyurl/
7. [81]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
8. mailto:[82]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
9. [83]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
10. [84]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
11. mailto:[85]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
12. mailto:[86]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
13. [87]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
14. [88]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
15. mailto:[89]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
16. [90]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
17. [91]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
18. mailto:[92]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
19. [93]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
20. mailto:[94]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
21. mailto:[95]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
22. mailto:[96]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
23. [97]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
24. [98]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
25. mailto:[99]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
26. [100]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
27. [101]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
28. mailto:[102]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
29. mailto:[103]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
30. [104]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
31. [105]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
32. mailto:[106]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
33. [107]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
34. [108]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
35. mailto:[109]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
36. [110]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
37. mailto:[111]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
38. mailto:[112]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
39. mailto:[113]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
40. mailto:[114]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
41. [115]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
42. [116]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
43. mailto:[117]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
44. [118]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
45. [119]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
46. mailto:[120]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
47. mailto:[121]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
48. [122]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
49. [123]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
50. mailto:[124]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
51. [125]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
52. [126]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
53. mailto:[127]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
54. [128]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
55. mailto:[129]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
56. mailto:[130]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
57. mailto:[131]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
58. [132]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
59. [133]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
60. mailto:[134]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
61. [135]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
62. [136]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
63. mailto:[137]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
64. mailto:[138]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
65. [139]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
66. [140]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
67. mailto:[141]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
68. [142]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
69. [143]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
70. mailto:[144]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
71. mailto:[145]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
72. mailto:[146]joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
73. [147]http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
74. mailto:[148]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
75. mailto:[149]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [150]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
References
1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
2. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
3. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
4. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
5. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
6. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
7. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
8. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
9. https://tinyurl/
10. https://tinyurl/
11. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
12. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
13. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
14. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
15. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
16. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
17. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
18. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
19. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
20. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
21. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
22. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
23. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
24. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
25. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
26. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
27. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
28. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
29. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
30. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
31. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
32. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
33. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
34. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
35. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
36. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
37. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
38. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
39. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
40. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
41. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
42. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
43. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
44. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
45. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
46. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
47. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
48. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
49. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
50. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
51. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
52. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
53. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
54. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
55. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
56. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
57. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
58. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
59. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
60. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
61. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
62. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
63. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
64. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
65. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
66. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
67. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
68. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
69. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
70. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
71. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
72. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
73. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
74. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
75. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
76. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
77. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
78. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
79. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
80. https://tinyurl/
81. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
82. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
83. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
84. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
85. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
86. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
87. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
88. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
89. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
90. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
91. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
92. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
93. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
94. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
95. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
96. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
97. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
98. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
99. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
100. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
101. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
102. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
103. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
104. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
105. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
106. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
107. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
108. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
109. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
110. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
111. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
112. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
113. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
114. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
115. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
116. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
117. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
118. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
119. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
120. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
121. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
122. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
123. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
124. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
125. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
126. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
127. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
128. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
129. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
130. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
131. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
132. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
133. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
134. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
135. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
136. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
137. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
138. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
139. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
140. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
141. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
142. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
143. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
144. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
145. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
146. mailto:joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
147. http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
148. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
149. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
150. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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