[Lnc-business] Agenda in Phoenix

Caryn Ann Harlos caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Sat Jul 21 06:36:47 EDT 2018


Then let’s put it in the hands of the delegate.

They have an absolute right to protection.

Having no JC cuts to the heart of the Party and cannot be accidentally
waived.

Put it to the delegates.

-Caryn Ann


On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 4:17 AM Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>
wrote:

> What matters is what actually happened at convention, and how the
> national LP has bylaws and rules in place, which spells out the results
> of what happened.
>
> A self-appointed JC will have no authority. I doubt *that's* what the
> delegates intended either, but that's what they'll get if the LNC and
> LPHQ staff accept the self-proclaimed JC.
>
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
>
>
>
> On 2018-07-21 04:56, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> > If the JC sends me amended appellate rules I will direct the staff to
> >    post them absent a contrary directive from the Chair or a contrary
> >    motion from the LNC.
> >    There is no way the delegates intended to leave themselves without a
> >    watchdog.  This is a matter of member rights and when I was regional
> > I
> >    clearly told my Region that there was a big BUT to my
> > representation.
> >    I would never advocate against my own principles (not merely
> > opinion)
> >    or removing member rights.
> >    -Caryn Ann
> >    On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 1:20 AM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business
> >    <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> >         JP>  On a personal note. Are we not Libertarians?  I find the
> >      arguments
> >         of rules and legality disturbingly dogmatic.  We argue all the
> >      time
> >         about changing bad laws and rules that have created a problem,
> >      but when
> >         it comes down to our rules failing we can't adjust? Seems sort
> > of
> >         hypocritical to me, actually far more than sort of.
> >         I don't understand how some Libertarians want to tell society
> >      that many
> >         things will work much better managed by voluntary agreements
> >      rather
> >         than by government, but then don't care about the terms of the
> >         voluntary agreement that is our organizational rules.  If we
> >      won't
> >         follow our own agreements, that feels hypocritical to me, and
> > it
> >      sets a
> >         poor example for the product we're trying to sell.
> >         -Alicia
> >         On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 10:26 AM, john.phillips--- via
> >      Lnc-business
> >         <[1][2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >              Shrug.  If I wanted to take it to a court of law I would
> >      have a
> >           50/50
> >              shot imho, and that of the 8 lawyers I asked to look at
> > it.
> >      Some
> >           of
> >              them thought they could win maybe 70%.
> >              So i would say the argument for them being the JC is as
> > good
> >      as
> >           the
> >              argument against.
> >              However, the vast majority seem to want them from what I
> >      see, so
> >           I fail
> >              to see the issue that people keep making of this. Just
> >      accept it
> >           and
> >              move on, it is what we should have done from the
> > beginning.
> >              On a personal note. Are we not Libertarians?  I find the
> >           arguments of
> >              rules and legality disturbingly dogmatic.  We argue all
> > the
> >      time
> >           about
> >              changing bad laws and rules that have created a problem,
> > but
> >      when
> >           it
> >              comes down to our rules failing we can't adjust? Seems
> > sort
> >      of
> >              hypocritical to me, actually far more than sort of.
> >              So my stance is this.  I stand opposed to anything that
> >      continues
> >           to
> >              drag this out.  I stand opposed to anything other than
> >      accepting
> >           the
> >              recommendation of the previous JC and what appears to me
> > to
> >      be
> >           the will
> >              of vast majority of our constituents.  The correct route
> > in
> >      my
> >           not so
> >              humble opinion is that we accept them, get the hell out of
> >      the
> >           way,
> >              move on, and hope we don't need them like the last LNC
> >      didn't.
> >              John Phillips
> >              Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> >              Cell [1]217-412-5973
> >              ------ Original message------
> >              From: Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business
> >              Date: Fri, Jul 20, 2018 11:32 AM
> >              To: Caryn Ann Harlos;
> >              Cc: Elizabeth Van Horn[2];[2][3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
> >              Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Agenda in Phoenix
> >           They can disagree all they want.   But, there's no authority
> >      for
> >           them.
> >           ---
> >           Elizabeth Van Horn
> >           On [3]2018-07-20 11:08, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> >           > There's a JC presently electing its chair that disagrees.
> >           >
> >           > On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 8:24 AM Elizabeth Van Horn  wrote:
> >           >
> >           >> There's no JC, so no resolution can be made.
> >           >>
> >           >> ---
> >           >> Elizabeth Van Horn
> >           >>
> >           >> On [4]2018-07-20 08:58, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
> >      wrote:
> >           >>> It seems that the JC took it upon itself to resolve - it
> > is
> >      up
> >           to the
> >           >>> membership to complain about that if they wish.  I submit
> >      we
> >           simply
> >           >>> go
> >           >>> on about our jobs and stay out of it.
> >           >>> -Caryn Ann
> >           >>>
> >           >>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 6:22 AM, Richard Longstreth via
> >           Lnc-business
> >         >>> <[1[5]][3][4]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >         >>>
> >         >>> I am assuming that JC will be an agenda item in Phoenix. If
> >         >>> not,
> >         >>> could
> >         >>> we please add it? If not, are we done with that discussion
> >      and
> >         >>> simply
> >         >>> not having a JC or what are the next points of discussion?
> > I
> >         >>> want
> >         >>> to
> >         >>> fully resolve this issue the best we can and move forward.
> > I
> >         >>> abstained
> >         >>> last vote to approve but my mind is still not settled.
> >         >>> There is no good solution here, but one of may state chairs
> >      put
> >         >>> very
> >         >>> simply:
> >         >>> "I find this whole debacle with process to be detrimental
> > and
> >         >>> don't
> >         >>> really care one way or the other how it pans out. Nobody is
> >         >>> going
> >         >>> to be
> >         >>> 100% on this as is evidenced by the gridlock on some of the
> >         >>> first
> >         >>> true
> >         >>> membership affecting votes from the LNC."
> >         >>> We need to resolve and move forward.
> >         >>> Richard
> >         >>> --
> >         >>> Richard Longstreth
> >         >>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI,
> > UT,
> >         >>> WA,
> >         >>> WY)
> >         >>> Libertarian National Committee
> >           >>> [1][2[6]][4][5]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >           >>> [7]931.538.9300
> >           >>> References
> >           >>> 1. mailto:[3[8]][5][6]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >           >>>
> >           >>> --
> >           >>> --
> >           >>> In Liberty,
> >           >>> Caryn Ann Harlos
> >           >>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> >      Secretary
> >           >>> - [4][9]Caryn.Ann.[10] Harlos at LP.org or[11]
> >      Secretary at LP.org.
> >           >>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[12]
> >      LPedia at LP.org
> >           >>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >           >>> We defend your rights
> >           >>> And oppose the use of force
> >           >>> Taxation is theft
> >           >>>
> >           >>> References
> >           >>>
> >           >>> 1. mailto[13]:[6][7]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >           >>> 2. mailto[14]:[7][8]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >           >>> 3. mailto[15]:[8][9]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >           >>> 4. mailto[16]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >           > --
> >           >
> >           > --
> >           >
> >           > IN LIBERTY,
> >           > CARYN ANN HARLOS
> >           > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> >      Secretary -
> >           [17]Caryn.Ann
> >           .[18] Harlos at LP.org or[19] Secretary at LP.org.
> >           > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[20]
> >      LPedia at LP.org
> >           >
> >           > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >           > _We defend your rights_
> >           > _And oppose the use of force_
> >           > _Taxation is theft_
> >              They can disagree all they want.   But, there's no
> > authority
> >      for
> >           them.
> >              ---
> >              Elizabeth Van Horn
> >              On [21]2018-07-20 11:08, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> >              There's a JC presently electing its chair that disagrees.
> >              On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 8:24 AM Elizabeth Van Horn
> >              <[1[22]][9][10]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
> >                There's no JC, so no resolution can be made.
> >                ---
> >                Elizabeth Van Horn
> >                On [23]2018-07-20 08:58, Caryn Ann Harlos via
> > Lnc-business
> >           wrote:
> >                > It seems that the JC took it upon itself to resolve -
> > it
> >      is
> >           up to
> >                the
> >                >    membership to complain about that if they wish.  I
> >      submit
> >           we
> >                simply
> >                > go
> >                >    on about our jobs and stay out of it.
> >                >    -Caryn Ann
> >                >
> >                >    On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 6:22 AM, Richard Longstreth
> >      via
> >                Lnc-business
> >              >    <[1][2[24]][10][11]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >              >
> >              >         I am assuming that JC will be an agenda item in
> >      Phoenix.
> >              If
> >              > not,
> >              >      could
> >              >         we please add it? If not, are we done with that
> >         discussion
> >              and
> >              >      simply
> >              >         not having a JC or what are the next points of
> >         discussion?
> >              I
> >              > want
> >              >      to
> >              >         fully resolve this issue the best we can and
> > move
> >         forward.
> >              I
> >              >      abstained
> >              >         last vote to approve but my mind is still not
> >      settled.
> >              >         There is no good solution here, but one of may
> >      state
> >              chairs put
> >              >      very
> >              >         simply:
> >              >         "I find this whole debacle with process to be
> >         detrimental
> >              and
> >              >      don't
> >              >         really care one way or the other how it pans
> > out.
> >      Nobody
> >              is
> >              > going
> >              >      to be
> >              >         100% on this as is evidenced by the gridlock on
> >      some of
> >              the
> >              > first
> >              >      true
> >              >         membership affecting votes from the LNC."
> >              >         We need to resolve and move forward.
> >              >         Richard
> >              >         --
> >              >         Richard Longstreth
> >              >         Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM,
> >      OR, HI,
> >              UT,
> >              > WA,
> >              >      WY)
> >              >         Libertarian National Committee
> >                >         [1][2][3[25]][11][12]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >                >         [26]931.538.9300
> >                >      References
> >                >         1.
> >      mailto:[3][4[27]][12][13]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >                >
> >                >    --
> >                >    --
> >                >    In Liberty,
> >                >    Caryn Ann Harlos
> >                >    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
> > Committee
> >           Secretary
> >                >    - [4][28]Caryn.Ann.[29] Harlos at LP.org or[30]
> >           Secretary at LP.org.
> >                >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[31]
> >           LPedia at LP.org
> >                >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >                >    We defend your rights
> >                >    And oppose the use of force
> >                >    Taxation is theft
> >                >
> >                > References
> >                >
> >                >    1. mailto:[5[32]][13][14]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >                >    2. mailto:[6[33]][14][15]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >                >    3. mailto:[7[34]][15][16]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >                >    4. mailto:[8[35]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >                --
> >              --
> >              In Liberty,
> >              Caryn Ann Harlos
> >              Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
> >      Secretary
> >              - [9][36]Caryn.Ann.[37] Harlos at LP.org or[38]
> >      Secretary at LP.org.
> >              Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[39]
> >      LPedia at LP.org
> >              A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >              We defend your rights
> >              And oppose the use of force
> >              Taxation is theft
> >           References
> >              1. mailto[40]:[16][17]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >              2. mailto[41]:[17][18]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >              3. mailto[42]:[18][19]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >              4. mailto[43]:[19][20]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >              5. mailto[44]:[20][21]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >              6. mailto[45]:[21][22]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >              7. mailto[46]:[22][23]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >              8. mailto[47]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >              9. mailto[48]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >           References
> >              1. tel:217-412-5973
> >              2. mailto:;[23][24]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >              3. tel:2018-07-20 11
> >              4. tel:2018-07-20 08
> >              5. mailto:][24][25]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >              6. mailto:][25][26]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >              7. tel:931.538.9300
> >              8. mailto:][26][27]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >              9. [27][28]http://Caryn.An/
> >             10. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
> >             11. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
> >             12. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
> >             13. mailto::[28][29]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >             14. mailto::[29][30]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >             15. mailto::[30][31]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >             16. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >             17. [31][32]http://Caryn.An/
> >             18. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
> >             19. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
> >             20. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
> >             21. tel:2018-07-20 11
> >             22. mailto:][32][33]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >             23. tel:2018-07-20 08
> >             24. mailto:][33][34]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >             25. mailto:][34][35]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >             26. tel:931.538.9300
> >             27. mailto:][35][36]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >             28. [36][37]http://Caryn.An/
> >             29. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
> >             30. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
> >             31. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
> >             32. mailto:][37][38]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >             33. mailto:][38][39]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >             34. mailto:][39][40]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >             35. mailto:]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >             36. [40][41]http://Caryn.An/
> >             37. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
> >             38. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
> >             39. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
> >             40. mailto::[41][42]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >             41. mailto::[42][43]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >             42. mailto::[43][44]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >             43. mailto::[44][45]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >             44. mailto::[45][46]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >             45. mailto::[46][47]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >             46. mailto::[47][48]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >             47. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >             48. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >      References
> >         1. mailto:[49]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >         2. mailto:[50]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >         3. mailto:[51]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >         4. mailto:[52]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >         5. mailto:[53]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >         6. mailto:[54]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >         7. mailto:[55]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >         8. mailto:[56]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >         9. mailto:[57]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >        10. mailto:[58]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >        11. mailto:[59]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >        12. mailto:[60]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >        13. mailto:[61]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >        14. mailto:[62]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >        15. mailto:[63]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >        16. mailto:[64]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >        17. mailto:[65]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >        18. mailto:[66]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >        19. mailto:[67]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >        20. mailto:[68]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >        21. mailto:[69]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >        22. mailto:[70]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >        23. mailto:[71]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >        24. mailto:[72]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >        25. mailto:[73]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >        26. mailto:[74]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >        27. [75]http://Caryn.An/
> >        28. mailto:[76]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >        29. mailto:[77]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >        30. mailto:[78]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >        31. [79]http://Caryn.An/
> >        32. mailto:[80]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >        33. mailto:[81]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >        34. mailto:[82]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >        35. mailto:[83]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >        36. [84]http://Caryn.An/
> >        37. mailto:[85]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >        38. mailto:[86]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >        39. mailto:[87]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >        40. [88]http://Caryn.An/
> >        41. mailto:[89]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >        42. mailto:[90]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >        43. mailto:[91]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >        44. mailto:[92]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >        45. mailto:[93]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >        46. mailto:[94]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >        47. mailto:[95]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >
> >    --
> >
> >    --
> >    In Liberty,
> >    Caryn Ann Harlos
> >    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> >    - [96]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >    We defend your rights
> >    And oppose the use of force
> >    Taxation is theft
> >
> > References
> >
> >    1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >    2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >    3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >    4. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >    5. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >    6. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >    7. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >    8. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >    9. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   10. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >   11. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   12. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   13. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   14. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   15. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   16. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   17. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >   18. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   19. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   20. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   21. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   22. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   23. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   24. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   25. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   26. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   27. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   28. http://Caryn.An/
> >   29. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   30. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   31. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   32. http://Caryn.An/
> >   33. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >   34. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   35. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   36. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   37. http://Caryn.An/
> >   38. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   39. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   40. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   41. http://Caryn.An/
> >   42. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >   43. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   44. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   45. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   46. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   47. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   48. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   49. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   50. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   51. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   52. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   53. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   54. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   55. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   56. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   57. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >   58. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   59. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   60. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   61. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   62. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   63. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   64. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >   65. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   66. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   67. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   68. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   69. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   70. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   71. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   72. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   73. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   74. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   75. http://Caryn.An/
> >   76. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   77. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   78. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   79. http://Caryn.An/
> >   80. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >   81. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   82. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   83. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   84. http://Caryn.An/
> >   85. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   86. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   87. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   88. http://Caryn.An/
> >   89. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >   90. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   91. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   92. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   93. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   94. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   95. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >   96. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>
-- 
-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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   Then let’s put it in the hands of the delegate.

   They have an absolute right to protection.

   Having no JC cuts to the heart of the Party and cannot be accidentally
   waived.

   Put it to the delegates.

   -Caryn Ann

   On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 4:17 AM Elizabeth Van Horn
   <[1]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:

     What matters is what actually happened at convention, and how the
     national LP has bylaws and rules in place, which spells out the
     results
     of what happened.
     A self-appointed JC will have no authority. I doubt *that's* what
     the
     delegates intended either, but that's what they'll get if the LNC
     and
     LPHQ staff accept the self-proclaimed JC.
     ---
     Elizabeth Van Horn
     On 2018-07-21 04:56, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
     > If the JC sends me amended appellate rules I will direct the staff
     to
     >    post them absent a contrary directive from the Chair or a
     contrary
     >    motion from the LNC.
     >    There is no way the delegates intended to leave themselves
     without a
     >    watchdog.  This is a matter of member rights and when I was
     regional
     > I
     >    clearly told my Region that there was a big BUT to my
     > representation.
     >    I would never advocate against my own principles (not merely
     > opinion)
     >    or removing member rights.
     >    -Caryn Ann
     >    On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 1:20 AM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business
     >    <[1][2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
     >
     >         JP>  On a personal note. Are we not Libertarians?  I find
     the
     >      arguments
     >         of rules and legality disturbingly dogmatic.  We argue all
     the
     >      time
     >         about changing bad laws and rules that have created a
     problem,
     >      but when
     >         it comes down to our rules failing we can't adjust? Seems
     sort
     > of
     >         hypocritical to me, actually far more than sort of.
     >         I don't understand how some Libertarians want to tell
     society
     >      that many
     >         things will work much better managed by voluntary
     agreements
     >      rather
     >         than by government, but then don't care about the terms of
     the
     >         voluntary agreement that is our organizational rules.  If
     we
     >      won't
     >         follow our own agreements, that feels hypocritical to me,
     and
     > it
     >      sets a
     >         poor example for the product we're trying to sell.
     >         -Alicia
     >         On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 10:26 AM, john.phillips--- via
     >      Lnc-business
     >         <[1][2][3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
     >              Shrug.  If I wanted to take it to a court of law I
     would
     >      have a
     >           50/50
     >              shot imho, and that of the 8 lawyers I asked to look
     at
     > it.
     >      Some
     >           of
     >              them thought they could win maybe 70%.
     >              So i would say the argument for them being the JC is
     as
     > good
     >      as
     >           the
     >              argument against.
     >              However, the vast majority seem to want them from
     what I
     >      see, so
     >           I fail
     >              to see the issue that people keep making of this.
     Just
     >      accept it
     >           and
     >              move on, it is what we should have done from the
     > beginning.
     >              On a personal note. Are we not Libertarians?  I find
     the
     >           arguments of
     >              rules and legality disturbingly dogmatic.  We argue
     all
     > the
     >      time
     >           about
     >              changing bad laws and rules that have created a
     problem,
     > but
     >      when
     >           it
     >              comes down to our rules failing we can't adjust?
     Seems
     > sort
     >      of
     >              hypocritical to me, actually far more than sort of.
     >              So my stance is this.  I stand opposed to anything
     that
     >      continues
     >           to
     >              drag this out.  I stand opposed to anything other
     than
     >      accepting
     >           the
     >              recommendation of the previous JC and what appears to
     me
     > to
     >      be
     >           the will
     >              of vast majority of our constituents.  The correct
     route
     > in
     >      my
     >           not so
     >              humble opinion is that we accept them, get the hell
     out of
     >      the
     >           way,
     >              move on, and hope we don't need them like the last
     LNC
     >      didn't.
     >              John Phillips
     >              Libertarian National Committee Region 6
     Representative
     >              Cell [1]217-412-5973
     >              ------ Original message------
     >              From: Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business
     >              Date: Fri, Jul 20, 2018 11:32 AM
     >              To: Caryn Ann Harlos;
     >              Cc: Elizabeth Van
     Horn[2];[2][3][4]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
     >              Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Agenda in Phoenix
     >           They can disagree all they want.   But, there's no
     authority
     >      for
     >           them.
     >           ---
     >           Elizabeth Van Horn
     >           On [3]2018-07-20 11:08, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
     >           > There's a JC presently electing its chair that
     disagrees.
     >           >
     >           > On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 8:24 AM Elizabeth Van Horn
     wrote:
     >           >
     >           >> There's no JC, so no resolution can be made.
     >           >>
     >           >> ---
     >           >> Elizabeth Van Horn
     >           >>
     >           >> On [4]2018-07-20 08:58, Caryn Ann Harlos via
     Lnc-business
     >      wrote:
     >           >>> It seems that the JC took it upon itself to resolve
     - it
     > is
     >      up
     >           to the
     >           >>> membership to complain about that if they wish.  I
     submit
     >      we
     >           simply
     >           >>> go
     >           >>> on about our jobs and stay out of it.
     >           >>> -Caryn Ann
     >           >>>
     >           >>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 6:22 AM, Richard Longstreth
     via
     >           Lnc-business
     >         >>> <[1[5]][3][4][5]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
     >         >>>
     >         >>> I am assuming that JC will be an agenda item in
     Phoenix. If
     >         >>> not,
     >         >>> could
     >         >>> we please add it? If not, are we done with that
     discussion
     >      and
     >         >>> simply
     >         >>> not having a JC or what are the next points of
     discussion?
     > I
     >         >>> want
     >         >>> to
     >         >>> fully resolve this issue the best we can and move
     forward.
     > I
     >         >>> abstained
     >         >>> last vote to approve but my mind is still not settled.
     >         >>> There is no good solution here, but one of may state
     chairs
     >      put
     >         >>> very
     >         >>> simply:
     >         >>> "I find this whole debacle with process to be
     detrimental
     > and
     >         >>> don't
     >         >>> really care one way or the other how it pans out.
     Nobody is
     >         >>> going
     >         >>> to be
     >         >>> 100% on this as is evidenced by the gridlock on some
     of the
     >         >>> first
     >         >>> true
     >         >>> membership affecting votes from the LNC."
     >         >>> We need to resolve and move forward.
     >         >>> Richard
     >         >>> --
     >         >>> Richard Longstreth
     >         >>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR,
     HI,
     > UT,
     >         >>> WA,
     >         >>> WY)
     >         >>> Libertarian National Committee
     >           >>> [1][2[6]][4][5][6]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >           >>> [7]931.538.9300
     >           >>> References
     >           >>> 1. mailto:[3[8]][5][6][7]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >           >>>
     >           >>> --
     >           >>> --
     >           >>> In Liberty,
     >           >>> Caryn Ann Harlos
     >           >>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
     >      Secretary
     >           >>> - [4][9]Caryn.Ann.[10] Harlos at LP.org or[11]
     >      Secretary at LP.org.
     >           >>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[12]
     >      LPedia at LP.org
     >           >>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
     >           >>> We defend your rights
     >           >>> And oppose the use of force
     >           >>> Taxation is theft
     >           >>>
     >           >>> References
     >           >>>
     >           >>> 1. mailto[13]:[6][7][8]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >           >>> 2. mailto[14]:[7][8][9]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >           >>> 3. mailto[15]:[8][9][10]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >           >>> 4. mailto[16]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >           > --
     >           >
     >           > --
     >           >
     >           > IN LIBERTY,
     >           > CARYN ANN HARLOS
     >           > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
     >      Secretary -
     >           [17]Caryn.Ann
     >           .[18] Harlos at LP.org or[19] Secretary at LP.org.
     >           > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[20]
     >      LPedia at LP.org
     >           >
     >           > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
     >           > _We defend your rights_
     >           > _And oppose the use of force_
     >           > _Taxation is theft_
     >              They can disagree all they want.   But, there's no
     > authority
     >      for
     >           them.
     >              ---
     >              Elizabeth Van Horn
     >              On [21]2018-07-20 11:08, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
     >              There's a JC presently electing its chair that
     disagrees.
     >              On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 8:24 AM Elizabeth Van Horn
     >              <[1[22]][9][10][11]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
     >                There's no JC, so no resolution can be made.
     >                ---
     >                Elizabeth Van Horn
     >                On [23]2018-07-20 08:58, Caryn Ann Harlos via
     > Lnc-business
     >           wrote:
     >                > It seems that the JC took it upon itself to
     resolve -
     > it
     >      is
     >           up to
     >                the
     >                >    membership to complain about that if they
     wish.  I
     >      submit
     >           we
     >                simply
     >                > go
     >                >    on about our jobs and stay out of it.
     >                >    -Caryn Ann
     >                >
     >                >    On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 6:22 AM, Richard
     Longstreth
     >      via
     >                Lnc-business
     >              >    <[1][2[24]][10][11][12]lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
     wrote:
     >              >
     >              >         I am assuming that JC will be an agenda
     item in
     >      Phoenix.
     >              If
     >              > not,
     >              >      could
     >              >         we please add it? If not, are we done with
     that
     >         discussion
     >              and
     >              >      simply
     >              >         not having a JC or what are the next points
     of
     >         discussion?
     >              I
     >              > want
     >              >      to
     >              >         fully resolve this issue the best we can
     and
     > move
     >         forward.
     >              I
     >              >      abstained
     >              >         last vote to approve but my mind is still
     not
     >      settled.
     >              >         There is no good solution here, but one of
     may
     >      state
     >              chairs put
     >              >      very
     >              >         simply:
     >              >         "I find this whole debacle with process to
     be
     >         detrimental
     >              and
     >              >      don't
     >              >         really care one way or the other how it
     pans
     > out.
     >      Nobody
     >              is
     >              > going
     >              >      to be
     >              >         100% on this as is evidenced by the
     gridlock on
     >      some of
     >              the
     >              > first
     >              >      true
     >              >         membership affecting votes from the LNC."
     >              >         We need to resolve and move forward.
     >              >         Richard
     >              >         --
     >              >         Richard Longstreth
     >              >         Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS,
     MT, NM,
     >      OR, HI,
     >              UT,
     >              > WA,
     >              >      WY)
     >              >         Libertarian National Committee
     >                >
     [1][2][3[25]][11][12][13]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >                >         [26]931.538.9300
     >                >      References
     >                >         1.
     >      mailto:[3][4[27]][12][13][14]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >                >
     >                >    --
     >                >    --
     >                >    In Liberty,
     >                >    Caryn Ann Harlos
     >                >    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National
     > Committee
     >           Secretary
     >                >    - [4][28]Caryn.Ann.[29] Harlos at LP.org or[30]
     >           Secretary at LP.org.
     >                >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
     -[31]
     >           LPedia at LP.org
     >                >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
     >                >    We defend your rights
     >                >    And oppose the use of force
     >                >    Taxation is theft
     >                >
     >                > References
     >                >
     >                >    1.
     mailto:[5[32]][13][14][15]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >                >    2.
     mailto:[6[33]][14][15][16]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >                >    3.
     mailto:[7[34]][15][16][17]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >                >    4. mailto:[8[35]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >                --
     >              --
     >              In Liberty,
     >              Caryn Ann Harlos
     >              Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
     >      Secretary
     >              - [9][36]Caryn.Ann.[37] Harlos at LP.org or[38]
     >      Secretary at LP.org.
     >              Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[39]
     >      LPedia at LP.org
     >              A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
     >              We defend your rights
     >              And oppose the use of force
     >              Taxation is theft
     >           References
     >              1. mailto[40]:[16][17][18]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
     >              2. mailto[41]:[17][18][19]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >              3. mailto[42]:[18][19][20]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >              4. mailto[43]:[19][20][21]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >              5. mailto[44]:[20][21][22]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >              6. mailto[45]:[21][22][23]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >              7. mailto[46]:[22][23][24]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >              8. mailto[47]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >              9. mailto[48]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >           References
     >              1. tel:217-412-5973
     >              2. mailto:;[23][24][25]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >              3. tel:2018-07-20 11
     >              4. tel:2018-07-20 08
     >              5. mailto:][24][25][26]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >              6. mailto:][25][26][27]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >              7. tel:931.538.9300
     >              8. mailto:][26][27][28]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >              9. [27][28][29]http://Caryn.An/
     >             10. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
     >             11. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
     >             12. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
     >             13. mailto::[28][29][30]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >             14. mailto::[29][30][31]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >             15. mailto::[30][31][32]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >             16. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >             17. [31][32][33]http://Caryn.An/
     >             18. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
     >             19. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
     >             20. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
     >             21. tel:2018-07-20 11
     >             22. mailto:][32][33][34]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
     >             23. tel:2018-07-20 08
     >             24. mailto:][33][34][35]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >             25. mailto:][34][35][36]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >             26. tel:931.538.9300
     >             27. mailto:][35][36][37]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >             28. [36][37][38]http://Caryn.An/
     >             29. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
     >             30. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
     >             31. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
     >             32. mailto:][37][38][39]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >             33. mailto:][38][39][40]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >             34. mailto:][39][40][41]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >             35. mailto:]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >             36. [40][41][42]http://Caryn.An/
     >             37. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
     >             38. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
     >             39. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
     >             40. mailto::[41][42][43]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
     >             41. mailto::[42][43][44]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >             42. mailto::[43][44][45]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >             43. mailto::[44][45][46]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >             44. mailto::[45][46][47]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >             45. mailto::[46][47][48]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >             46. mailto::[47][48][49]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >             47. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >             48. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >      References
     >         1. mailto:[49][50]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >         2. mailto:[50][51]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >         3. mailto:[51][52]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >         4. mailto:[52][53]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >         5. mailto:[53][54]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >         6. mailto:[54][55]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >         7. mailto:[55][56]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >         8. mailto:[56][57]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >         9. mailto:[57][58]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
     >        10. mailto:[58][59]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >        11. mailto:[59][60]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >        12. mailto:[60][61]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >        13. mailto:[61][62]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >        14. mailto:[62][63]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >        15. mailto:[63][64]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >        16. mailto:[64][65]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
     >        17. mailto:[65][66]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >        18. mailto:[66][67]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >        19. mailto:[67][68]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >        20. mailto:[68][69]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >        21. mailto:[69][70]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >        22. mailto:[70][71]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >        23. mailto:[71][72]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >        24. mailto:[72][73]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >        25. mailto:[73][74]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >        26. mailto:[74][75]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >        27. [75][76]http://Caryn.An/
     >        28. mailto:[76][77]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >        29. mailto:[77][78]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >        30. mailto:[78][79]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >        31. [79][80]http://Caryn.An/
     >        32. mailto:[80][81]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
     >        33. mailto:[81][82]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >        34. mailto:[82][83]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >        35. mailto:[83][84]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >        36. [84][85]http://Caryn.An/
     >        37. mailto:[85][86]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >        38. mailto:[86][87]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >        39. mailto:[87][88]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >        40. [88][89]http://Caryn.An/
     >        41. mailto:[89][90]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
     >        42. mailto:[90][91]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >        43. mailto:[91][92]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >        44. mailto:[92][93]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >        45. mailto:[93][94]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >        46. mailto:[94][95]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >        47. mailto:[95][96]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >
     >    --
     >
     >    --
     >    In Liberty,
     >    Caryn Ann Harlos
     >    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
     >    - [96]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
     >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
     >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
     >    We defend your rights
     >    And oppose the use of force
     >    Taxation is theft
     >
     > References
     >
     >    1. mailto:[97]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >    2. mailto:[98]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >    3. mailto:[99]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >    4. mailto:[100]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >    5. mailto:[101]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >    6. mailto:[102]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >    7. mailto:[103]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >    8. mailto:[104]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >    9. mailto:[105]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >   10. mailto:[106]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
     >   11. mailto:[107]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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     >   13. mailto:[109]richard.longstreth at lp.org
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     >   53. mailto:[149]richard.longstreth at lp.org
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     >   58. mailto:[154]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >   59. mailto:[155]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >   60. mailto:[156]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >   61. mailto:[157]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >   62. mailto:[158]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >   63. mailto:[159]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >   64. mailto:[160]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
     >   65. mailto:[161]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >   66. mailto:[162]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >   67. mailto:[163]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >   68. mailto:[164]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >   69. mailto:[165]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >   70. mailto:[166]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >   71. mailto:[167]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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     >   74. mailto:[170]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >   75. [171]http://Caryn.An/
     >   76. mailto:[172]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >   77. mailto:[173]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >   78. mailto:[174]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >   79. [175]http://Caryn.An/
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     >   81. mailto:[177]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >   82. mailto:[178]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >   83. mailto:[179]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >   84. [180]http://Caryn.An/
     >   85. mailto:[181]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >   86. mailto:[182]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >   87. mailto:[183]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >   88. [184]http://Caryn.An/
     >   89. mailto:[185]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
     >   90. mailto:[186]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >   91. mailto:[187]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >   92. mailto:[188]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >   93. mailto:[189]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >   94. mailto:[190]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >   95. mailto:[191]richard.longstreth at lp.org
     >   96. mailto:[192]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org

   --

   --
   In Liberty,
   Caryn Ann Harlos
   Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
   - [193]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
   A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
   We defend your rights
   And oppose the use of force
   Taxation is theft

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