[Lnc-business] HTML being turned off business list

Caryn Ann Harlos caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Thu Jul 26 15:48:12 EDT 2018


We are doing a test on the APRC list where we never have this issue - with
my emails or anyone else.

-Caryn Ann

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:

> Let’s test turning it all off for a few days to see if that fixes it
>
>
> Ken let me know when you flip the switch
>
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 12:57 PM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
>>    Yeah mine do that too.  Definitely not that way when I hit send
>>    John Phillips
>>    Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>    Cell [1]217-412-5973
>>
>>    ------ Original message------
>>    From: Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business
>>    Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2018 1:55 PM
>>    To: Libertarian National Committee list;
>>    Cc: Alicia Mattson;
>>    Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] HTML being turned off business list
>> While we're talking email quirks, I presume that the way the text looks on
>> messages like this:
>>
>> [2]http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/2018/014336.html
>>
>> is not the way they look when Caryn Ann sends them.  When they reach the
>> list, there are no line breaks, and it all runs together in a
>> hard-to-parse
>> lump.  Maybe this symptom helps diagnose?
>>
>> -Alicia
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business <[3]
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Dear Caryn Ann,
>> >
>> > It's only your emails that have all the appended references at the
>> > bottom of them.  I think the fix can be done with how you send email
>> > and not require the entire list to exclude attachments.
>> >
>> > -Nick
>> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 10:14 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>> >  wrote:
>> > >
>> > >    Wes I don’t understand your question.
>> > >
>> > >    The problem is that a good chunk of the LNC in long email chains
>> gets
>> > >    pages and pages of html junk and miss messages (I’ve missed votes)
>> and
>> > >    for at least one LNC member it crashes their phone.
>> > >
>> > >    My understanding from Ken (perhaps he needs to discuss with you -
>> this
>> > >    is about sheer utility not my preferences) is that this is the only
>> > >    solution.
>> > >
>> > >    APRC emails don’t get long enough nor sent to dozens of emails and
>> > thus
>> > >    doesn’t have this issue.
>> > >
>> > >    Ken- do I have this right?
>> > >
>> > >    Caryn Ann
>> > >
>> > >    On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 11:03 AM Wes Benedict via Lnc-business
>> > >    <[1[4]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >      Caryn Ann, do you prefer the list setup with the restrictions
>> > >      described
>> > >      below to the way the APRC and probably most of our other email
>> lists
>> > >      work, where almost anything goes formatting wise?
>> > >      I like the way the APRC list works where you can add formatting
>> > >      (rich
>> > >      text / html) and attachments. My understanding is that the single
>> > >      downside to the way lists like the APRC work is that attachments
>> > >      don't
>> > >      make it to the LNC business email archives.
>> > >      [2][5]https://www.lp.org/lnc-minutes-and-discussion/
>> > >      Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>> > >      Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>> > >      [3]1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>> > >      [6](202) 333-0008 ext. 232, [4[7]]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> > >      [5][8]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>> > >      Join the Libertarian Party at: [6][9]http://lp.org/membership
>> > >      On 7/26/2018 12:28 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>> > >      > This means you will no longer be able to add attachments as
>> well
>> > >      to
>> > >      > your emails.  If you have something (other than reports) to
>> > >      attach,
>> > >      > you will need to use a file-sharing site and share the link.
>> > >      Google
>> > >      > has very easy solutions for this.
>> > >      >
>> > >      > If it is a report, please send to me at [7[10]]
>> secretary at lp.org and I
>> > >      will
>> > >      > put in a One-Note Notebook and publish that to the list.  I
>> will
>> > >      have
>> > >      > an organized One-Note notebook prepared for your e-use for the
>> LNC
>> > >      > meetings.
>> > >      >
>> > >      > Robert and Tim - if you could do that as well with the
>> membership
>> > >      and
>> > >      > financial reports I will do the same thing.
>> > >      >
>> > >      > -Caryn Ann
>> > >      >
>> > >      > On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>> > >      > <[8[11]]carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >      >> Ken is trying this to see if it fixes the garbled text issues.
>> > >      >>
>> > >      >> --
>> > >      >> In Liberty,
>> > >      >> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> > >      >> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>> Secretary -
>> > >      >> [12]Caryn.Ann.[13] Harlos at LP.org or[14] Secretary at LP.org.
>> > >      >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[15]
>> LPedia at LP.org
>> > >      >>
>> > >      >>
>> > >      >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> > >      >> We defend your rights
>> > >      >> And oppose the use of force
>> > >      >> Taxation is theft
>> > >      >
>> > >      >
>> > >
>> > >    --
>> > >
>> > >    --
>> > >    In Liberty,
>> > >    Caryn Ann Harlos
>> > >    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>> > >    - [9][16]Caryn.Ann.[17] Harlos at LP.org or[18] Secretary at LP.org.
>> > >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[19] LPedia at LP.org
>> > >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> > >    We defend your rights
>> > >    And oppose the use of force
>> > >    Taxation is theft
>> > >
>> > > References
>> > >
>> > >    1. mailto[20]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> > >    2. [21]https://www.lp.org/lnc-minutes-and-discussion/
>> > >    3. [22]https://maps.google.com/?q=1444+Duke+St.,+Alexandria,+
>> VA+223
>> > 14&entry=gmail&source=g
>> > >    4. mailto[23]:wes.benedict at lp.org
>> > >    5. [24]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>> > >    6. [25]http://lp.org/membership
>> > >    7. mailto[26]:secretary at lp.org
>> > >    8. mailto[27]:carynannharlos at gmail.com
>> > >    9. mailto[28]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >
>>
>>    While we're talking email quirks, I presume that the way the text looks
>>    on messages like this:
>>    [1][29]http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/2018/014336.html
>>    is not the way they look when Caryn Ann sends them.  When they reach
>>    the list, there are no line breaks, and it all runs together in a
>>    hard-to-parse lump.  Maybe this symptom helps diagnose?
>>    -Alicia
>>    On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business
>>    <[2[30]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>      Dear Caryn Ann,
>>      It's only your emails that have all the appended references at the
>>      bottom of them.  I think the fix can be done with how you send email
>>      and not require the entire list to exclude attachments.
>>      -Nick
>>
>>    On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 10:14 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>>    <[3[31]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>    >
>>    >    Wes I don’t understand your question.
>>    >
>>    >    The problem is that a good chunk of the LNC in long email chains
>>    gets
>>    >    pages and pages of html junk and miss messages (I’ve missed votes)
>>    and
>>    >    for at least one LNC member it crashes their phone.
>>    >
>>    >    My understanding from Ken (perhaps he needs to discuss with you -
>>    this
>>    >    is about sheer utility not my preferences) is that this is the
>>    only
>>    >    solution.
>>    >
>>    >    APRC emails don’t get long enough nor sent to dozens of emails and
>>    thus
>>    >    doesn’t have this issue.
>>    >
>>    >    Ken- do I have this right?
>>    >
>>    >    Caryn Ann
>>    >
>>    >    On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 11:03 AM Wes Benedict via Lnc-business
>>    >    <[1][4[32]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>    >
>>    >      Caryn Ann, do you prefer the list setup with the restrictions
>>    >      described
>>    >      below to the way the APRC and probably most of our other email
>>    lists
>>    >      work, where almost anything goes formatting wise?
>>    >      I like the way the APRC list works where you can add formatting
>>    >      (rich
>>    >      text / html) and attachments. My understanding is that the
>>    single
>>    >      downside to the way lists like the APRC work is that attachments
>>    >      don't
>>    >      make it to the LNC business email archives.
>>    >      [2][5][33]https://www.lp.org/lnc-minutes-and-discussion/
>>    >      Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>>    >      Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>    >      [3]1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>>    >      [34](202) 333-0008 ext. 232, [4][6[35]]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>    >      [5][7][36]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>>    >      Join the Libertarian Party at: [6][8][37]http://lp.org/
>> membership
>>    >      On 7/26/2018 12:28 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>    >      > This means you will no longer be able to add attachments as
>>    well
>>    >      to
>>    >      > your emails.  If you have something (other than reports) to
>>    >      attach,
>>    >      > you will need to use a file-sharing site and share the link.
>>    >      Google
>>    >      > has very easy solutions for this.
>>    >      >
>>    >      > If it is a report, please send to me at [7][9[38]]
>> secretary at lp.org
>>    and I
>>    >      will
>>    >      > put in a One-Note Notebook and publish that to the list.  I
>>    will
>>    >      have
>>    >      > an organized One-Note notebook prepared for your e-use for the
>>    LNC
>>    >      > meetings.
>>    >      >
>>    >      > Robert and Tim - if you could do that as well with the
>>    membership
>>    >      and
>>    >      > financial reports I will do the same thing.
>>    >      >
>>    >      > -Caryn Ann
>>    >      >
>>    >      > On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>    >      > <[8][10[39]]carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>    >      >> Ken is trying this to see if it fixes the garbled text
>>    issues.
>>    >      >>
>>    >      >> --
>>    >      >> In Liberty,
>>    >      >> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>    >      >> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
>>    Secretary -
>>    >      >> [40]Caryn.Ann.[41] Harlos at LP.org or[42] Secretary at LP.org.
>>    >      >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[43]
>> LPedia at LP.org
>>    >      >>
>>    >      >>
>>    >      >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>    >      >> We defend your rights
>>    >      >> And oppose the use of force
>>    >      >> Taxation is theft
>>    >      >
>>    >      >
>>    >
>>    >    --
>>    >
>>    >    --
>>    >    In Liberty,
>>    >    Caryn Ann Harlos
>>    >    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>>    >    - [9][44]Caryn.Ann.[45] Harlos at LP.org or[46] Secretary at LP.org.
>>    >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[47] LPedia at LP.org
>>    >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>    >    We defend your rights
>>    >    And oppose the use of force
>>    >    Taxation is theft
>>    >
>>    > References
>>    >
>>    >    1. mailto:[11[48]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>    >    2. [12][49]https://www.lp.org/lnc-minutes-and-discussion/
>>    >    3. [13][50]https://maps.google.com/?q=144
>>    4+Duke+St.,+Alexandria,+VA+22314&entry=gmail&source=g
>>    >    4. mailto:[14[51]]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>    >    5. [15][52]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>    >    6. [16][53]http://lp.org/membership
>>    >    7. mailto:[17[54]]secretary at lp.org
>>    >    8. mailto:[18[55]]carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>    >    9. mailto:[19[56]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>
>> References
>>
>>    1. [57]http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/2018/014336.html
>>    2. mailto[58]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>    3. mailto[59]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>    4. mailto[60]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>    5. [61]https://www.lp.org/lnc-minutes-and-discussion/
>>    6. mailto[62]:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>    7. [63]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>    8. [64]http://lp.org/membership
>>    9. mailto[65]:secretary at lp.org
>>   10. mailto[66]:carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>   11. mailto[67]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>   12. [68]https://www.lp.org/lnc-minutes-and-discussion/
>>   13. [69]https://maps.google.com/?q=1444+Duke+St
>>   14. mailto[70]:wes.benedict at lp.org
>>   15. [71]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>   16. [72]http://lp.org/membership
>>   17. mailto[73]:secretary at lp.org
>>   18. mailto[74]:carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>   19. mailto[75]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>
>> References
>>
>>    1. tel:217-412-5973
>>    2. http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/2018/014336.html
>>    3. mailto:
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>    4. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>    5. https://www.lp.org/lnc-minutes-and-discussion/
>>    6. tel:(202) 333-0008
>>    7. mailto:]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>    8. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>    9. http://lp.org/membership
>>   10. mailto:]secretary at lp.org
>>   11. mailto:]carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>   12. http://Caryn.An/
>>   13. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
>>   14. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
>>   15. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
>>   16. http://Caryn.An/
>>   17. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
>>   18. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
>>   19. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
>>   20. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>   21. https://www.lp.org/lnc-minutes-and-discussion/
>>   22. https://maps.google.com/?q=1444+Duke+St.,+Alexandria,+VA+223
>>   23. mailto::wes.benedict at lp.org
>>   24. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>   25. http://lp.org/membership
>>   26. mailto::secretary at lp.org
>>   27. mailto::carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>   28. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>   29. http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/2018/014336.html
>>   30. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>   31. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>   32. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>   33. https://www.lp.org/lnc-minutes-and-discussion/
>>   34. tel:(202) 333-0008
>>   35. mailto:]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>   36. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>   37. http://lp.org/membership
>>   38. mailto:]secretary at lp.org
>>   39. mailto:]carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>   40. http://Caryn.An/
>>   41. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
>>   42. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
>>   43. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
>>   44. http://Caryn.An/
>>   45. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
>>   46. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
>>   47. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
>>   48. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>   49. https://www.lp.org/lnc-minutes-and-discussion/
>>   50. https://maps.google.com/?q=144
>>   51. mailto:]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>   52. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>   53. http://lp.org/membership
>>   54. mailto:]secretary at lp.org
>>   55. mailto:]carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>   56. mailto:]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>   57. http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/2018/014336.html
>>   58. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>   59. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>   60. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>   61. https://www.lp.org/lnc-minutes-and-discussion/
>>   62. mailto::wes.benedict at lp.org
>>   63. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>   64. http://lp.org/membership
>>   65. mailto::secretary at lp.org
>>   66. mailto::carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>   67. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>   68. https://www.lp.org/lnc-minutes-and-discussion/
>>   69. https://maps.google.com/?q=1444+Duke+St
>>   70. mailto::wes.benedict at lp.org
>>   71. http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>   72. http://lp.org/membership
>>   73. mailto::secretary at lp.org
>>   74. mailto::carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>   75. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>
> --
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>



-- 
-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
-------------- next part --------------
   We are doing a test on the APRC list where we never have this issue -
   with my emails or anyone else.
   -Caryn Ann

   On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
   <[1]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:

   Let’s test turning it all off for a few days to see if that fixes it
   Ken let me know when you flip the switch
   On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 12:57 PM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business
   <[2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

        Yeah mine do that too.  Definitely not that way when I hit send
        John Phillips
        Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
        Cell [1]217-412-5973
        ------ Original message------
        From: Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business
        Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2018 1:55 PM
        To: Libertarian National Committee list;
        Cc: Alicia Mattson;
        Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] HTML being turned off business list
     While we're talking email quirks, I presume that the way the text
     looks on
     messages like this:
     [2][3]http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/2018/014336.html
     is not the way they look when Caryn Ann sends them.  When they reach
     the
     list, there are no line breaks, and it all runs together in a
     hard-to-parse
     lump.  Maybe this symptom helps diagnose?
     -Alicia
     On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business
     <[3]
     [4]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
     > Dear Caryn Ann,
     >
     > It's only your emails that have all the appended references at the
     > bottom of them.  I think the fix can be done with how you send
     email
     > and not require the entire list to exclude attachments.
     >
     > -Nick
     > On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 10:14 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
     >  wrote:
     > >
     > >    Wes I don’t understand your question.
     > >
     > >    The problem is that a good chunk of the LNC in long email
     chains gets
     > >    pages and pages of html junk and miss messages (I’ve missed
     votes) and
     > >    for at least one LNC member it crashes their phone.
     > >
     > >    My understanding from Ken (perhaps he needs to discuss with
     you - this
     > >    is about sheer utility not my preferences) is that this is
     the only
     > >    solution.
     > >
     > >    APRC emails don’t get long enough nor sent to dozens of
     emails and
     > thus
     > >    doesn’t have this issue.
     > >
     > >    Ken- do I have this right?
     > >
     > >    Caryn Ann
     > >
     > >    On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 11:03 AM Wes Benedict via
     Lnc-business
     > >    <[1[4]][5]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
     > >
     > >      Caryn Ann, do you prefer the list setup with the
     restrictions
     > >      described
     > >      below to the way the APRC and probably most of our other
     email lists
     > >      work, where almost anything goes formatting wise?
     > >      I like the way the APRC list works where you can add
     formatting
     > >      (rich
     > >      text / html) and attachments. My understanding is that the
     single
     > >      downside to the way lists like the APRC work is that
     attachments
     > >      don't
     > >      make it to the LNC business email archives.
     > >      [2][5][6]https://www.lp.org/lnc-minutes-and-discussion/
     > >      Wes Benedict, Executive Director
     > >      Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
     > >      [3]1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
     > >      [6](202) 333-0008 ext. 232, [4[7]][7]wes.benedict at lp.org
     > >      [5][8][8]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
     > >      Join the Libertarian Party at:
     [6][9][9]http://lp.org/membership
     > >      On 7/26/2018 12:28 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
     wrote:
     > >      > This means you will no longer be able to add attachments
     as well
     > >      to
     > >      > your emails.  If you have something (other than reports)
     to
     > >      attach,
     > >      > you will need to use a file-sharing site and share the
     link.
     > >      Google
     > >      > has very easy solutions for this.
     > >      >
     > >      > If it is a report, please send to me at
     [7[10]][10]secretary at lp.org and I
     > >      will
     > >      > put in a One-Note Notebook and publish that to the list.
     I will
     > >      have
     > >      > an organized One-Note notebook prepared for your e-use
     for the LNC
     > >      > meetings.
     > >      >
     > >      > Robert and Tim - if you could do that as well with the
     membership
     > >      and
     > >      > financial reports I will do the same thing.
     > >      >
     > >      > -Caryn Ann
     > >      >
     > >      > On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
     > >      > <[8[11]][11]carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
     > >      >> Ken is trying this to see if it fixes the garbled text
     issues.
     > >      >>
     > >      >> --
     > >      >> In Liberty,
     > >      >> Caryn Ann Harlos
     > >      >> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
     Secretary -
     > >      >> [12]Caryn.Ann.[13] Harlos at LP.org or[14]
     Secretary at LP.org.
     > >      >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[15]
     LPedia at LP.org
     > >      >>
     > >      >>
     > >      >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
     > >      >> We defend your rights
     > >      >> And oppose the use of force
     > >      >> Taxation is theft
     > >      >
     > >      >
     > >
     > >    --
     > >
     > >    --
     > >    In Liberty,
     > >    Caryn Ann Harlos
     > >    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
     Secretary
     > >    - [9][16]Caryn.Ann.[17] Harlos at LP.org or[18]
     Secretary at LP.org.
     > >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[19]
     LPedia at LP.org
     > >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
     > >    We defend your rights
     > >    And oppose the use of force
     > >    Taxation is theft
     > >
     > > References
     > >
     > >    1. mailto[20]:[12]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     > >    2. [21][13]https://www.lp.org/lnc-minutes-and-discussion/
     > >    3. [22][14]https://maps.google.com/?
     q=1444+Duke+St.,+Alexandria,+VA+223
     > 14&entry=gmail&source=g
     > >    4. mailto[23]:[15]wes.benedict at lp.org
     > >    5. [24][16]http://facebook.com/libertarians
     > >    6. [25][17]http://lp.org/membership
     > >    7. mailto[26]:[18]secretary at lp.org
     > >    8. mailto[27]:[19]carynannharlos at gmail.com
     > >    9. mailto[28]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >
        While we're talking email quirks, I presume that the way the text
     looks
        on messages like this:
        [1][29][20]http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/2018/
     014336.html
        is not the way they look when Caryn Ann sends them.  When they
     reach
        the list, there are no line breaks, and it all runs together in a
        hard-to-parse lump.  Maybe this symptom helps diagnose?
        -Alicia
        On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Nicholas Sarwark via
     Lnc-business
        <[2[30]][21]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
          Dear Caryn Ann,
          It's only your emails that have all the appended references at
     the
          bottom of them.  I think the fix can be done with how you send
     email
          and not require the entire list to exclude attachments.
          -Nick
        On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 10:14 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via
     Lnc-business
        <[3[31]][22]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
        >
        >    Wes I don’t understand your question.
        >
        >    The problem is that a good chunk of the LNC in long email
     chains
        gets
        >    pages and pages of html junk and miss messages (I’ve missed
     votes)
        and
        >    for at least one LNC member it crashes their phone.
        >
        >    My understanding from Ken (perhaps he needs to discuss with
     you -
        this
        >    is about sheer utility not my preferences) is that this is
     the
        only
        >    solution.
        >
        >    APRC emails don’t get long enough nor sent to dozens of
     emails and
        thus
        >    doesn’t have this issue.
        >
        >    Ken- do I have this right?
        >
        >    Caryn Ann
        >
        >    On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 11:03 AM Wes Benedict via
     Lnc-business
        >    <[1][4[32]][23]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
        >
        >      Caryn Ann, do you prefer the list setup with the
     restrictions
        >      described
        >      below to the way the APRC and probably most of our other
     email
        lists
        >      work, where almost anything goes formatting wise?
        >      I like the way the APRC list works where you can add
     formatting
        >      (rich
        >      text / html) and attachments. My understanding is that the
        single
        >      downside to the way lists like the APRC work is that
     attachments
        >      don't
        >      make it to the LNC business email archives.
        >      [2][5][33][24]https://www.lp.org/
     lnc-minutes-and-discussion/
        >      Wes Benedict, Executive Director
        >      Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
        >      [3]1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
        >      [34](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
     [4][6[35]][25]wes.benedict at lp.org
        >      [5][7][36][26]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
        >      Join the Libertarian Party at:
     [6][8][37][27]http://lp.org/membership
        >      On 7/26/2018 12:28 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
     wrote:
        >      > This means you will no longer be able to add attachments
     as
        well
        >      to
        >      > your emails.  If you have something (other than reports)
     to
        >      attach,
        >      > you will need to use a file-sharing site and share the
     link.
        >      Google
        >      > has very easy solutions for this.
        >      >
        >      > If it is a report, please send to me at
     [7][9[38]][28]secretary at lp.org
        and I
        >      will
        >      > put in a One-Note Notebook and publish that to the
     list.  I
        will
        >      have
        >      > an organized One-Note notebook prepared for your e-use
     for the
        LNC
        >      > meetings.
        >      >
        >      > Robert and Tim - if you could do that as well with the
        membership
        >      and
        >      > financial reports I will do the same thing.
        >      >
        >      > -Caryn Ann
        >      >
        >      > On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
        >      > <[8][10[39]][29]carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
        >      >> Ken is trying this to see if it fixes the garbled text
        issues.
        >      >>
        >      >> --
        >      >> In Liberty,
        >      >> Caryn Ann Harlos
        >      >> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
        Secretary -
        >      >> [40]Caryn.Ann.[41] Harlos at LP.org or[42]
     Secretary at LP.org.
        >      >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[43]
     LPedia at LP.org
        >      >>
        >      >>
        >      >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
        >      >> We defend your rights
        >      >> And oppose the use of force
        >      >> Taxation is theft
        >      >
        >      >
        >
        >    --
        >
        >    --
        >    In Liberty,
        >    Caryn Ann Harlos
        >    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
     Secretary
        >    - [9][44]Caryn.Ann.[45] Harlos at LP.org or[46]
     Secretary at LP.org.
        >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[47]
     LPedia at LP.org
        >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
        >    We defend your rights
        >    And oppose the use of force
        >    Taxation is theft
        >
        > References
        >
        >    1. mailto:[11[48]][30]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
        >    2. [12][49][31]https://www.lp.org/
     lnc-minutes-and-discussion/
        >    3. [13][50][32]https://maps.google.com/?q=144
        4+Duke+St.,+Alexandria,+VA+22314&entry=gmail&source=g
        >    4. mailto:[14[51]][33]wes.benedict at lp.org
        >    5. [15][52][34]http://facebook.com/libertarians
        >    6. [16][53][35]http://lp.org/membership
        >    7. mailto:[17[54]][36]secretary at lp.org
        >    8. mailto:[18[55]][37]carynannharlos at gmail.com
        >    9. mailto:[19[56]]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     References
        1. [57][38]http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/2018/
     014336.html
        2. mailto[58]:[39]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
        3. mailto[59]:[40]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
        4. mailto[60]:[41]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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        9. mailto[65]:[46]secretary at lp.org
       10. mailto[66]:[47]carynannharlos at gmail.com
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       19. mailto[75]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     References
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     [57]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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       75. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org

     --

   --
   In Liberty,
   Caryn Ann Harlos
   Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
   - [113]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
   A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
   We defend your rights
   And oppose the use of force
   Taxation is theft

   --
   --
   In Liberty,
   Caryn Ann Harlos
   Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
   - [114]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
   A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
   We defend your rights
   And oppose the use of force
   Taxation is theft

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