[Lnc-business] Using electronic voting at LNC meetings for elections

Fri Jul 27 11:43:37 EDT 2018

I got a contact there to refer to the committee.

On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 7:32 AM Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein at lp.org> wrote:

> If you are in talks with them can you ask if they can assign delegate
> voting numbers with a state designation to keep the delegation votes
> separate such as IN1-IN29?  Also, how would Alternates be able to vote in
> with this method.
>
> It surely seems a whole lot less expensive than some of the solutions
> being looked at by other people.
> ---
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> 317-850-0726 Cell
>
>
> On 2018-07-27 08:21, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
> We could use it at an LNC meeting for ranked choice voting and to not have
> to rely on tellers.  If you review my minutes from the short meeting after
> convention out of three ballots there were two errors.  And the results
> would be instant.  Vote, and bam.  And an easy electronic record.
>
> For convention voting, yes, each delegate can be assigned a unique number,
> and if they implement non-anonymous voting - that delegate can view the
> electronic record of their own vote (it would be tied to their voter
> number).  There would need to be either individual internet access or
> delegation internet access (a delegation "voting kiosk").  This is a
> pre-done solution with tech support that is not incredibly expensive
> (software wise).
>
> How long to set up each ballot?  That would depend on a lot of factors but
> nothing insurmountable and quicker than the manual printing of ballots I am
> fairly certain.
>
> Further when we start getting into examining our voting methods at
> convention, I think it is a mistake to have the secretary so involved in
> elections - too much potential conflict of interest and that a qualified
> election panel (who are not voting delegates and deemed to be sufficiently
> disinterested and impartial) be given that task, with the secretary only
> reporting the results.  We have gotten bigger and need to be more hygenic
> in our processes.
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 5:48 AM, Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't know why we would need this system for an in-person LNC meeting,
>> but it does look interesting to consider for convention voting.
>>
>> Would each voter get a unique log-on and have to have internet access to
>> vote?
>>
>> How would we handle those delegates delegates that don't have access?
>>
>> How long would it take the Secretary to set up each ballot?
>>
>> Those are just the questions that come to mind before my first cup of
>> coffee, I'm sure more will follow.
>> ---
>> Sam Goldstein
>> Libertarian National Committee
>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>>
>>
>> On 2018-07-27 02:49, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>
>> They have nearly every voting system and multiple variations on RCV
>>
>> They promised me they are moving signed ballots to the top of list.
>>
>> -Caryn Ann
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 12:48 AM Craig Bowden <craig.bowden at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It looks like they use Ranked Choice on there too. Just looked them up.
>>>
>>> Craig Bowden
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2018-07-27 00:43, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> > It's a fantastic program.  And will allow us to efficiently use
>>> > ranked choice.  The only draw back is that right now it's secret
>>> > ballots.
>>> >
>>> > We can also use it in combination with paper ballots - do RCV on paper
>>> > ballots and have the tellers input into OpaVote to calculate.
>>> >
>>> > -Caryn Ann
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 12:41 AM <phillip.anderson at lp.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> We've used OpaVote for LPWI meetings. Tyler Danke is proficient.
>>> >> Worked well for us...
>>> >>
>>> >> Get Outlook for Android [1]
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 8:39 AM +0200, "Caryn Ann Harlos via
>>> >> Lnc-business" <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> There is an online solution called OpaVote that I would like to
>>> >>> use once they add the ability to have non-anonymous ballots.  I
>>> >>> have been speaking with them.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I think they may also be a good resource for the proposed
>>> >>> electronic voting convention committee to look into.--
>>> >>>
>>> >>> IN LIBERTY,
>>> >>> CARYN ANN HARLOS
>>> >>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
>>> >>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>> >>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>> >>>
>>> >>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> >>> _We defend your rights_
>>> >>> _And oppose the use of force_
>>> >>> _Taxation is theft_
>>> >  --
>>> >
>>> > IN LIBERTY,
>>> > CARYN ANN HARLOS
>>> > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
>>> > Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>> >
>>> > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> > _We defend your rights_
>>> > _And oppose the use of force_
>>> > _Taxation is theft_
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Links:
>>> > ------
>>> > [1] https://aka.ms/ghei36
>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> *We defend your rights*
>> *And oppose the use of force*
>> *Taxation is theft*
>>
>>
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>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
>
>
>
>
> --
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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