[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-19: AGREE TO "JC" DECISIONS

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

Fixing the root issues is on the agenda

-Caryn Ann

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 10:13 PM Jeff Lyons via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> If the By-Laws were set aside when electing them, why would the by-laws
> matter once they are "voluntarily acknowledged"?  I suppose if the LNC
> really doesn't have any power over the JC, then I guess they could just
> convene themselves if there were an actual issue.  Who are we to stop
> them?   But if you bend the rules once, why can't you do it all the
> time?
>
> In the meantime, I don't believe bending the rules again to put a
> band-aid on it is an acceptable option.  I appreciate how unruly the
> convention body can be, and agree that the Chair does a phenomenal job
> in keeping the business moving along smoothly.  However, when it comes
> to these elections, I think there are some lessons to be learned that
> need to be addressed before we move on.
>
> Address the root of the problem first.  If it takes too many ballots to
> elect them, we need to use a better voting system, a more efficient
> method of counting, or anything that would make it take less time.
> Start earlier.  I see some other ideas floating around already.  I think
> it would be a good idea to suggest that the JC assist or be in charge of
> counting ballots for the LNC, and free up the Secretary for recording.
>
> Perhaps we can discuss and bring all of our ideas to Phoenix and work on
> a lasting plan as a team.  I would much rather discuss further in
> Phoenix.  Still Voting No.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> --
> In Liberty,
> Jeff Lyons
>
> Region 8 Alternate
> (Acting Region 8 Rep)
>
> Libertarian Assoc. of MA
> Membership Director
> http://www.lpmass.org/join
>
> Daniel Fishman for Auditor
> Campaign Manager
> http://www.AuditMassachusetts.com
>
> On 2018-08-01 13:31, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
> > I vote no, with a preference to take up discussion at the September
> > meeting.  I thought that was the preference expressed when JBH floated
> > a proposal earlier.
> >
> > I don't see it as being particularly urgent.  Surely we can avoid
> > violating the bylaws for a few weeks, and I'm not aware of any plans
> > to suspend anyone from the LNC, such that that short appeal time
> > frames would be involved.
> >
> > -Alicia
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 5:06 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
> > <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the
> >> LNC-Business
> >> list by AUGUST 1, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors:
> >> Harlos,
> >> Longstreth, Merced, Phillips Motion: Move that the Libertarian
> >> National
> >> Committee agree to be bound by the decisions of the top-seven
> >> vote-getters for the Judicial Committee at the 2018 Convention as
> >> if
> >> they were elected in the normal course of convention business and
> >> follow the procedures and rules set forth in our Bylaws. It is
> >> acknowledged that this agreement is not binding upon any member
> >> or
> >> affiliate. You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of
> >> votes
> >> here: [1]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting [1]
> >> --
> >> In Liberty,
> >> Caryn Ann Harlos
> >> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
> >> [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >> We defend your rights
> >> And oppose the use of force
> >> Taxation is theft
> >>
> >> References
> >>
> >> 1. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
> >> 2. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >
> >
> >
> > Links:
> > ------
> > [1] https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>
>
>
> --
-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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