[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-19: AGREE TO "JC" DECISIONS

Thu Aug 2 18:31:10 EDT 2018

It says as per Bylaws.  If the 2020 delegates amend the bylaws to elect
then their term is over.

If not then it’s 2022.  There is an expiration date in the motion - the
bylaws.

-Caryn Ann

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 3:24 PM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Unless the motion is simply to affirm them until 2022
>
> John Phillips
>
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>
> Cell 217-412-5973
>
> ------ Original message------
> *From: *Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business
> *Date: *Thu, Aug 2, 2018 5:06 PM
> *To: *Libertarian National Committee list;
> *Cc: *Alicia Mattson;
> *Subject:*Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-19: AGREE TO "JC" DECISIONS
>
> If the 2020 convention takes whatever actions are necessary to populate a
> JudComm, then it makes the lack of an expiration date in this motion a
> problem.  As Ms. Harlos indicated yesterday, her intent is for it to apply
> for the duration of the 4-year term that would have existed had a JudComm
> been elected.  If the 2020 convention acts and puts different people in for
> the remaining 2 years of the term, then this motion becomes in conflict
> with the delegates.  At the Phoenix meeting it is my intention to amend the
> motion just adopted to add an expiration date which would be the end of
> this LNC term.
>
> -Alicia
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 6:45 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
>> Unless the 2020 Convention takes care of the problem, yes.
>>
>> That solves the problem that we - through our chair - inadvertently (but
>> still grievously) caused.
>>
>> The delegates can take it up in 2020
>>
>> -Caryn Ann
>>
>> PS: the official results will be announced shortly
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 6:44 AM Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So this pretend JC will serve until 2022?
>>> ---
>>> Sam Goldstein
>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>> 317-850-0726 Cell
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2018-08-02 02:22, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>
>>> The motion specifies that things would continue as if elected which
>>> means their term would end as per Bylaws.  I explicitly anticipated that.
>>>
>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:13 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It occurs to me that this motion contains no expiration date, which
>>>> could lead to confusion about whether these 7 people would play this role
>>>> forever, even in a future LNC term, even after a Judicial Committee is
>>>> elected, etc.
>>>>
>>>> This motion needs to clarify that it expires at the end of this term.
>>>>
>>>> -Alicia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 5:06 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>    We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business
>>>>>    list by AUGUST 1, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors:
>>>>> Harlos,
>>>>>    Longstreth, Merced, Phillips Motion: Move that the Libertarian
>>>>> National
>>>>>    Committee agree to be bound by the decisions of the top-seven
>>>>>    vote-getters for the Judicial Committee at the 2018 Convention as if
>>>>>    they were elected in the normal course of convention business and
>>>>>    follow the procedures and rules set forth in our Bylaws. It is
>>>>>    acknowledged that this agreement is not binding upon any member or
>>>>>    affiliate. You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of
>>>>> votes
>>>>
>>>>    here: [1]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>    --
>>>>>    In Liberty,
>>>>>    Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
>>>>
>>>>    [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org <+Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>> <+Secretary at LP.org.>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>>>> <+LPedia at LP.org>
>>>>>    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>    We defend your rights
>>>>>    And oppose the use of force
>>>>>    Taxation is theft
>>>>>
>>>>> References
>>>>>
>>>>>    1. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
>>>>>    2. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>
>>>> --
>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>>> <+Secretary at LP.org.>
>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>> <+LPedia at LP.org>
>>>
>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> *We defend your rights*
>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>
>>> --
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>> <+Secretary at LP.org.>
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>> <+LPedia at LP.org>
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> *We defend your rights*
>> *And oppose the use of force*
>> *Taxation is theft*
>>
>
> --
-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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