[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-19: AGREE TO "JC" DECISIONS

Thu Aug 2 19:09:08 EDT 2018

I meant the motion(s) at the 2020 convention, not your motion ;) sorry for being unclear.
It would likely require multiple levels of motion to do correctly, suspension of rules, followed by a bylaws ammendment to allow an election and a shortened term in a case like this, then either an election or affirmation vote.
Either way it is my considered opinion that having a fully vested and empowered JC for the 2020 convention is important.  Others may not agree, but I will be pushing for it.
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell 217-412-5973
------ Original message------From: Caryn Ann HarlosDate: Thu, Aug 2, 2018 6:31 PMTo: lnc-business at hq.lp.org;Cc: john.phillips at lp.org;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-19: AGREE TO "JC" DECISIONS
It says as per Bylaws.  If the 2020 delegates amend the bylaws to elect then their term is over.
If not then it’s 2022.  There is an expiration date in the motion - the bylaws.
-Caryn Ann
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 3:24 PM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

    Unless the motion is simply to affirm them until 2022 
John Phillips
Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
Cell 217-412-5973
------ Original message------From: Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business Date: Thu, Aug 2, 2018 5:06 PMTo: Libertarian National Committee list;Cc: Alicia Mattson;Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-19: AGREE TO "JC" DECISIONS
If the 2020 convention takes whatever actions are necessary to populate a JudComm, then it makes the lack of an expiration date in this motion a problem.  As Ms. Harlos indicated yesterday, her intent is for it to apply for the duration of the 4-year term that would have existed had a JudComm been elected.  If the 2020 convention acts and puts different people in for the remaining 2 years of the term, then this motion becomes in conflict with the delegates.  At the Phoenix meeting it is my intention to amend the motion just adopted to add an expiration date which would be the end of this LNC term.

-Alicia

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 6:45 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
Unless the 2020 Convention takes care of the problem, yes.
That solves the problem that we - through our chair - inadvertently (but still grievously) caused.
The delegates can take it up in 2020 
-Caryn Ann
PS: the official results will be announced shortly
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 6:44 AM Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein at lp.org> wrote:

So this pretend JC will serve until 2022?
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Sam Goldstein
 Libertarian National Committee
 317-850-0726 Cell

On 2018-08-02 02:22, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:

The motion specifies that things would continue as if elected which means their term would end as per Bylaws.  I explicitly anticipated that.

-Caryn Ann

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:13 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

It occurs to me that this motion contains no expiration date, which could lead to confusion about whether these 7 people would play this role forever, even in a future LNC term, even after a Judicial Committee is elected, etc.

This motion needs to clarify that it expires at the end of this term.

-Alicia

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 5:06 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

   We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business
    list by AUGUST 1, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors: Harlos,
    Longstreth, Merced, Phillips Motion: Move that the Libertarian National
    Committee agree to be bound by the decisions of the top-seven
    vote-getters for the Judicial Committee at the 2018 Convention as if
    they were elected in the normal course of convention business and
    follow the procedures and rules set forth in our Bylaws. It is
    acknowledged that this agreement is not binding upon any member or
    affiliate. You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes

   here: [1]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting

    --
    In Liberty,
    Caryn Ann Harlos
    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -

   [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.

    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
    We defend your rights
    And oppose the use of force
    Taxation is theft

 References

    1. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
    2. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org

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In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft

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In Liberty,Caryn Ann HarlosLibertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:We defend your rightsAnd oppose the use of forceTaxation is theft

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In Liberty,Caryn Ann HarlosLibertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:We defend your rightsAnd oppose the use of forceTaxation is theft
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