[Lnc-business] Fwd: Confidence in LNC restored

Caryn Ann Harlos caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Tue Aug 14 11:34:59 EDT 2018


So. Much. That.

-Caryn Ann


On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 9:16 AM Steven Nekhaila <steven.nekhaila at lp.org>
wrote:

> Either our ideas are powerful enough to to convince Americans, as well
> as those around the world, to come under the banner of our libertarian
> ideals, or they are weak enough where we must recruit Socialists amongst
> our ranks to potentially reach our objectives. I say, its the former,
> our ideas are powerful enough to create Libertarian sects in countries
> like Cuba and Venezula. Only 90 miles from where I sit as I type, an
> oppressive and violent Castro regime is holding members of our ideology
> hostage, they are standing up and risking death for the very ideas we
> are proclaiming to champion as leaders of the Libertarian Party in the
> United States. I outright refuse to let Libertarians around the world
> and at home fight in vein, and to sell out to a competing ideology
> because we want numbers. I will not compromise, this is not a position I
> take lightly, this is not a movement I take lightly; there are many
> libertarians out there who are waiting to discover the Libertarian Party
> as their political home and we must remain the centrifugal force of
> libertarianism in politics to light their way.
>
> In Liberty,
>
> Steven Nekhaila
> Region 2 Representative
> Libertarian National Committee
>
> Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt
> "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
>
> On 2018-08-14 04:37 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> > I think I have been pretty clear on what I want Susan, but I do hope
> >    you are having a good time with your ridicule.  I do hope you are
> >    sharing this same ridicule with a state in your own region who wrote
> > me
> >    thanking me.  Are you representing your region here or just deciding
> > to
> >    be obnoxious about a genuine concern without asking them theirs?
> >    I want the same clarity about communism and socialism that we had
> > about
> >    white nationalism.  I don't think I stuttered.
> >    -Caryn Ann
> >
> >    On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:50 AM, Susan Hogarth
> >    <[1]susan.hogarth at lp.org> wrote:
> >
> >    “Doing X was bad, but it happened. So now we need to do *more* of X.
> >    Because X was bad.”
> >    Wait, what?
> >
> >
> > If this body thinks that socialism is fine and dandy with the general
> >    Party membership
> >
> >
> >    There really is room for more options than “DENOUNCE THE SOCIALISTS”
> >    and “this body thinks that socialism is fine and dandy”. The old
> >    “you’re with us or you’re with the socialists” line gets tedious.
> >    But setting those things aside; what do you want to happen here?
> > You’ve
> >    denounced. Others have denounced. Do you want memes? Resolutions?
> >    Essays? Beheadings? Where is this heading?
> >
> >    Susan Jane Hogarth
> >
> >    Region 5 Alternate
> >
> >    [2]919-906-2106
> >
> >    On Aug 14, 2018 at 3:20 AM, <[3]Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business>
> >    wrote:
> >
> >
> >    If we ignored everything routinely I would not have as much of an
> > issue
> >    ignoring this. But we haven't. We (either as a Party or through very
> >    public actions of LNC members) went after not only the alt-right but
> >    prominent libertarian "celebertarians" who some thought were too
> > cozy
> >    with the alt right. I think those fights picked went into the land
> > of
> >    petty but that's not my call - it wasn't me. I do know that those
> >    actions reverberated a lot of internal damage in our party with
> > solid
> >    Libertarians.
> >    We entertained people who were wanting to be sure that Florida knew
> >    that dis-affiliation was on the table due to a handful of
> > loud-mouthed
> >    neo-nazi types there and justified it because one of them - August
> >    Invictus - had been a candidate under the L banner. And it was a
> > mere
> >    handful of people none of whom ever made it on the national stage at
> >    our convention to do a nazi salute.
> >    WE HAVE AN OPEN COMMUNIST RUNNING UNDER THE L BANNER NOW.
> >    The inconsistency is glaring. Are we a leftist party? I thought we
> >    were neither left nor right but the hard push left is undeniable -
> > be
> >    honest with the membership if that is what we are.
> >    I left the right. I have no love for the right. But much like the
> >    South Park creator, that doesn't mean I now love the left.
> >    If this body thinks that socialism is fine and dandy with the
> > general
> >    Party membership, we are woefully out of touch.
> >    -Caryn Ann
> >    On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 9:27 PM, brent.olsen--- via Lnc-business
> >    <[1][4]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >    Sadly, this is not so. I have spoken personally to three
> >    individuals over the past week who had reservations about joining
> >    the Libertarian Party because they were concerned that the
> >    Libertarian Party was embracing socialism. One of these
> >    individuals, who I spoke with yesterday, does not know any other
> >    Libertarians and had heard about the party from his friend at work,
> >    the daughter of 1984 Libertarian Party presidential candidate David
> >    Bergland. He is a small town guy from Chico, California. When he
> >    spoke to me he had serious concerns that the Libertarian Party did
> >    not support private property rights. He does not use social media
> >    at all, but when he looked up the Libertarian Party online some of
> >    the first things that came to his attention were these LibSoc ideas
> >    that are in opposition to private property rights. He is one of
> >    three individuals who I have talked to in the past week with these
> >    concerns. How many people are we losing because when they research
> >    us they find this garbage? This is becoming a more serious problem
> >    and we can not in good conscience continue to ignore this.
> >    In Liberty,
> >    K. Brent Olsen, Psy.D.
> >    Alternate, Region 4
> >    On 2018-08-13 16:45, phillip.anderson--- via Lnc-business wrote:
> >    Thankfully, the general public and electorate, and most of our
> >    membership, are oblivious to these inside squabbles, and have a
> >    pretty
> >    good understanding of what libertarianism is and isn't from our
> >    candidates. At least, whatever misconceptions the public might
> >    have
> >    come from non-libertarians, not from the LNC or any caucus.
> >    Get [1]Outlook for Android
> >    On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 6:16 PM -0500, "Susan Hogarth via
> >    Lnc-business"
> >    <[2][2][5]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >    Isn’t it funny how a few trolls and their useful idiots can have us
> >    at each oth
> >    ers’ throats? Grandstanding, posturing, threatening to quit?
> >    If it had been planned it couldn’t have worked better.
> >    The LP has been around for over five decades, with plenty of
> >    left/right fringers
> >    trying to get a toehold. They will go, and until they do they are a
> >    tiny minori
> >    ty among us. The posturing and bulldogging gives them much more
> >    credibility than
> >    they would ever see within the party if they were simply shunned as
> >    the fools t
> >    hey are.
> >    I think we should assume less of a defensive posture - that makes us
> >    look weak.
> >    I don’t think we need denouncements or proclamations. These guys
> >    were roundly re
> >    jected at the Convention. Why keep letting them determine our
> >    discourse and set
> >    the tone of our conversations?
> >    Our words and actions should in almost every case describe what the
> >    Libertarian
> >    Party *is*, rather than be a response to what a few trolls want to
> >    make it.
> >    By all means celebrate capitalism. I want to see the Party doing
> >    more of that. A
> >    ll this talking about communism *associates* communism and the LP.
> >    It makes it s
> >    eem as if we are facing a huge existential crisis and perilously
> >    close to adopti
> >    ng socialism as the LP’s preferred economic ideology We’re not.
> >    Susan Jane Hogarth
> >    Region 5 Alternate
> >    919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106)
> >    On Aug 13, 2018 at 6:56 PM, wrote:
> >    I will state that as a candidate in Utah, if we moved toward
> >    socialism,
> >    I would burn my card and denounce the Libertarian Party mid-race.
> >    Principles are why I came here. If we don't stand up for them, I
> >    will be
> >    gone. That simple.
> >    Principles are: non aggression. Self-ownership.
> >    If we take that stand that non voluntary means are acceptable, such
> >    as
> >    the end result of socialism, then we are lost and I will be once
> >    again
> >    politically homeless. I have no problems with co-ops existing. You
> >    do
> >    you, but there must be the ability for a person to revoke consent
> >    and
> >    leave a commune in order for it to be voluntary. Since there has
> >    been
> >    advocacy for the forced taking of property, I cannot support that,
> >    will
> >    not support that, and anyone in Region 1 who has a problem with me
> >    saying such is welcome to demand a recall of my post with their
> >    chairs.
> >    It is NOT divisive to call out aggression in ideology.
> >    Craig Bowden
> >    Region 1 Alternate
> >    On 2018-08-13 13:10, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> >    > Since a criticism lodged was about distraction from candidates-
> >    expect
> >    > letters from candidates who have expressed that it kept them in
> >    the
> >    > race because they could point to national leaders repudiating
> >    this.
> >    >
> >    > If you don’t think association with communism will come out and
> >    bite
> >    > our candidates in the ass, well....
> >    >
> >    > I know that not everyone cares about the sheerly ideological
> >    points
> >    > but
> >    > rather are election focused.
> >    >
> >    > How is welcoming communists and looting business owners going to
> >    > help
> >    > us at the polls??
> >    >
> >    > It isn’t.
> >    >
> >    > -Caryn Ann
> >    >
> >    > On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 12:55 PM Justin O'Donnell via
> >    Lnc-business
> >    > <[1][3][6]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >    >
> >    > I received the following email, espousing praise for Ms Harlos
> >    and
> >    > Mr
> >    > Smith for their opposition to socialist influence in the LP.
> >    > ---
> >    > Yours in Liberty,
> >    > Justin O'Donnell
> >    > LNC Region 8 Representative
> >    > LPNH Alternate- LNC Platform Committee
> >    > Chair- LPNH Platform Committee
> >    > Candidate for US Congress, NH-2
> >    > [2][4][7]www.odonnell2018.org
> >    > -------- Original Message --------
> >    > Subject: Confidence in LNC restored
> >    > Date: 2018-08-13 14:48
> >    > From: demochamp <[3][5][8]demochamp at yahoo.com>
> >    > To: [4][6][9]justin.odonnell at lp.org
> >    > Hello my name is Michael Cordova I am a Libertarian party member
> >    > from
> >    > Albuquerque New Mexico.
> >    > Last week after much consideration I renewed my membership to
> >    > the
> >    > Libertarian party
> >    > I had recently let my membership lapse for several months trying
> >    > to
> >    > figure out where I belong, due to the recent run for national
> >    > chair
> >    > by a
> >    > self proclaimed socialist as well as rhetoric from the
> >    libertarian
> >    > socialist caucus. I had lost hope that I belonged in the LP. I do
> >    > not
> >    > support "bottom unity" and fail to understand how socialism of
> >    any
> >    > kind
> >    > is compatible with the LP.
> >    > I am writing this e-mail because several members of the LNC
> >    > have
> >    > stepped up and spoken out against socialism and what I consider
> >    an
> >    > attempted socialist takeover.
> >    > I would like to personally thank:
> >    > Caryn Ann Harlos & Joshua Smith
> >    > They both have renewed my confidence in the LP leadership and
> >    have
> >    > giving me hope for the future of the party.
> >    > I can now tell my friends and family who were hesitant to join
> >    > the
> >    > party due to the ties to left wing economic policies like
> >    Medicare
> >    > for
> >    > all and ideas like rent is theft and capitalism is murder, that
> >    > those
> >    > ideas and policies do not represent me nor the Libertarian party.
> >    > Thanks again.
> >    > Michael Cordova
> >    >
> >    > --
> >    >
> >    > --
> >    > In Liberty,
> >    > Caryn Ann Harlos
> >    > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> >    > - [5]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> >    > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> >    > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >    > We defend your rights
> >    > And oppose the use of force
> >    > Taxation is theft
> >    >
> >    > References
> >    >
> >    > 1. mailto:[7][10]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >    > 2. [8][11]http://www.odonnell2018.org/
> >    > 3. mailto:[9][12]demochamp at yahoo.com
> >    > 4. mailto:[10][13]justin.odonnell at lp.org
> >    > 5. mailto:[11]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >    References
> >    1. [12][14]https://aka.ms/ghei36
> >    2. mailto:[13][15]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >    --
> >    --
> >    In Liberty,
> >    Caryn Ann Harlos
> >    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> >    - [14]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >    We defend your rights
> >    And oppose the use of force
> >    Taxation is theft
> >    References
> >    1. mailto:[16]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >    2. mailto:[17]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >    3. mailto:[18]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >    4. [19]http://www.odonnell2018.org/
> >    5. mailto:[20]demochamp at yahoo.com
> >    6. mailto:[21]justin.odonnell at lp.org
> >    7. mailto:[22]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >    8. [23]http://www.odonnell2018.org/
> >    9. mailto:[24]demochamp at yahoo.com
> >    10. mailto:[25]justin.odonnell at lp.org
> >    11. mailto:[26]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >    12. [27]https://aka.ms/ghei36
> >    13. mailto:[28]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >    14. mailto:[29]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >
> >    --
> >
> >    --
> >    In Liberty,
> >    Caryn Ann Harlos
> >    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> >    - [30]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >    We defend your rights
> >    And oppose the use of force
> >    Taxation is theft
> >
> > References
> >
> >    1. mailto:susan.hogarth at lp.org
> >    2. tel:919-906-2106
> >    3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >    4. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >    5. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >    6. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >    7. http://www.odonnell2018.org/
> >    8. mailto:demochamp at yahoo.com
> >    9. mailto:justin.odonnell at lp.org
> >   10. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   11. http://www.odonnell2018.org/
> >   12. mailto:demochamp at yahoo.com
> >   13. mailto:justin.odonnell at lp.org
> >   14. https://aka.ms/ghei36
> >   15. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   16. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   17. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   18. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   19. http://www.odonnell2018.org/
> >   20. mailto:demochamp at yahoo.com
> >   21. mailto:justin.odonnell at lp.org
> >   22. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   23. http://www.odonnell2018.org/
> >   24. mailto:demochamp at yahoo.com
> >   25. mailto:justin.odonnell at lp.org
> >   26. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >   27. https://aka.ms/ghei36
> >   28. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> >   29. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >   30. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>
-- 
-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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   So. Much. That.

   -Caryn Ann

   On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 9:16 AM Steven Nekhaila
   <[1]steven.nekhaila at lp.org> wrote:

     Either our ideas are powerful enough to to convince Americans, as
     well
     as those around the world, to come under the banner of our
     libertarian
     ideals, or they are weak enough where we must recruit Socialists
     amongst
     our ranks to potentially reach our objectives. I say, its the
     former,
     our ideas are powerful enough to create Libertarian sects in
     countries
     like Cuba and Venezula. Only 90 miles from where I sit as I type, an
     oppressive and violent Castro regime is holding members of our
     ideology
     hostage, they are standing up and risking death for the very ideas
     we
     are proclaiming to champion as leaders of the Libertarian Party in
     the
     United States. I outright refuse to let Libertarians around the
     world
     and at home fight in vein, and to sell out to a competing ideology
     because we want numbers. I will not compromise, this is not a
     position I
     take lightly, this is not a movement I take lightly; there are many
     libertarians out there who are waiting to discover the Libertarian
     Party
     as their political home and we must remain the centrifugal force of
     libertarianism in politics to light their way.
     In Liberty,
     Steven Nekhaila
     Region 2 Representative
     Libertarian National Committee
     Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt
     "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
     On 2018-08-14 04:37 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
     > I think I have been pretty clear on what I want Susan, but I do
     hope
     >    you are having a good time with your ridicule.  I do hope you
     are
     >    sharing this same ridicule with a state in your own region who
     wrote
     > me
     >    thanking me.  Are you representing your region here or just
     deciding
     > to
     >    be obnoxious about a genuine concern without asking them
     theirs?
     >    I want the same clarity about communism and socialism that we
     had
     > about
     >    white nationalism.  I don't think I stuttered.
     >    -Caryn Ann
     >
     >    On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:50 AM, Susan Hogarth
     >    <[1][2]susan.hogarth at lp.org> wrote:
     >
     >    “Doing X was bad, but it happened. So now we need to do *more*
     of X.
     >    Because X was bad.”
     >    Wait, what?
     >
     >
     > If this body thinks that socialism is fine and dandy with the
     general
     >    Party membership
     >
     >
     >    There really is room for more options than “DENOUNCE THE
     SOCIALISTS”
     >    and “this body thinks that socialism is fine and dandy”. The
     old
     >    “you’re with us or you’re with the socialists” line gets
     tedious.
     >    But setting those things aside; what do you want to happen
     here?
     > You’ve
     >    denounced. Others have denounced. Do you want memes?
     Resolutions?
     >    Essays? Beheadings? Where is this heading?
     >
     >    Susan Jane Hogarth
     >
     >    Region 5 Alternate
     >
     >    [2]919-906-2106
     >
     >    On Aug 14, 2018 at 3:20 AM, <[3]Caryn Ann Harlos via
     Lnc-business>
     >    wrote:
     >
     >
     >    If we ignored everything routinely I would not have as much of
     an
     > issue
     >    ignoring this. But we haven't. We (either as a Party or through
     very
     >    public actions of LNC members) went after not only the
     alt-right but
     >    prominent libertarian "celebertarians" who some thought were
     too
     > cozy
     >    with the alt right. I think those fights picked went into the
     land
     > of
     >    petty but that's not my call - it wasn't me. I do know that
     those
     >    actions reverberated a lot of internal damage in our party with
     > solid
     >    Libertarians.
     >    We entertained people who were wanting to be sure that Florida
     knew
     >    that dis-affiliation was on the table due to a handful of
     > loud-mouthed
     >    neo-nazi types there and justified it because one of them -
     August
     >    Invictus - had been a candidate under the L banner. And it was
     a
     > mere
     >    handful of people none of whom ever made it on the national
     stage at
     >    our convention to do a nazi salute.
     >    WE HAVE AN OPEN COMMUNIST RUNNING UNDER THE L BANNER NOW.
     >    The inconsistency is glaring. Are we a leftist party? I thought
     we
     >    were neither left nor right but the hard push left is
     undeniable -
     > be
     >    honest with the membership if that is what we are.
     >    I left the right. I have no love for the right. But much like
     the
     >    South Park creator, that doesn't mean I now love the left.
     >    If this body thinks that socialism is fine and dandy with the
     > general
     >    Party membership, we are woefully out of touch.
     >    -Caryn Ann
     >    On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 9:27 PM, brent.olsen--- via
     Lnc-business
     >    <[1][4][3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
     >    Sadly, this is not so. I have spoken personally to three
     >    individuals over the past week who had reservations about
     joining
     >    the Libertarian Party because they were concerned that the
     >    Libertarian Party was embracing socialism. One of these
     >    individuals, who I spoke with yesterday, does not know any
     other
     >    Libertarians and had heard about the party from his friend at
     work,
     >    the daughter of 1984 Libertarian Party presidential candidate
     David
     >    Bergland. He is a small town guy from Chico, California. When
     he
     >    spoke to me he had serious concerns that the Libertarian Party
     did
     >    not support private property rights. He does not use social
     media
     >    at all, but when he looked up the Libertarian Party online some
     of
     >    the first things that came to his attention were these LibSoc
     ideas
     >    that are in opposition to private property rights. He is one of
     >    three individuals who I have talked to in the past week with
     these
     >    concerns. How many people are we losing because when they
     research
     >    us they find this garbage? This is becoming a more serious
     problem
     >    and we can not in good conscience continue to ignore this.
     >    In Liberty,
     >    K. Brent Olsen, Psy.D.
     >    Alternate, Region 4
     >    On 2018-08-13 16:45, phillip.anderson--- via Lnc-business
     wrote:
     >    Thankfully, the general public and electorate, and most of our
     >    membership, are oblivious to these inside squabbles, and have a
     >    pretty
     >    good understanding of what libertarianism is and isn't from our
     >    candidates. At least, whatever misconceptions the public might
     >    have
     >    come from non-libertarians, not from the LNC or any caucus.
     >    Get [1]Outlook for Android
     >    On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 6:16 PM -0500, "Susan Hogarth via
     >    Lnc-business"
     >    <[2][2][5][4]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
     >    Isn’t it funny how a few trolls and their useful idiots can
     have us
     >    at each oth
     >    ers’ throats? Grandstanding, posturing, threatening to quit?
     >    If it had been planned it couldn’t have worked better.
     >    The LP has been around for over five decades, with plenty of
     >    left/right fringers
     >    trying to get a toehold. They will go, and until they do they
     are a
     >    tiny minori
     >    ty among us. The posturing and bulldogging gives them much more
     >    credibility than
     >    they would ever see within the party if they were simply
     shunned as
     >    the fools t
     >    hey are.
     >    I think we should assume less of a defensive posture - that
     makes us
     >    look weak.
     >    I don’t think we need denouncements or proclamations. These
     guys
     >    were roundly re
     >    jected at the Convention. Why keep letting them determine our
     >    discourse and set
     >    the tone of our conversations?
     >    Our words and actions should in almost every case describe what
     the
     >    Libertarian
     >    Party *is*, rather than be a response to what a few trolls want
     to
     >    make it.
     >    By all means celebrate capitalism. I want to see the Party
     doing
     >    more of that. A
     >    ll this talking about communism *associates* communism and the
     LP.
     >    It makes it s
     >    eem as if we are facing a huge existential crisis and
     perilously
     >    close to adopti
     >    ng socialism as the LP’s preferred economic ideology We’re not.
     >    Susan Jane Hogarth
     >    Region 5 Alternate
     >    919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106)
     >    On Aug 13, 2018 at 6:56 PM, wrote:
     >    I will state that as a candidate in Utah, if we moved toward
     >    socialism,
     >    I would burn my card and denounce the Libertarian Party
     mid-race.
     >    Principles are why I came here. If we don't stand up for them,
     I
     >    will be
     >    gone. That simple.
     >    Principles are: non aggression. Self-ownership.
     >    If we take that stand that non voluntary means are acceptable,
     such
     >    as
     >    the end result of socialism, then we are lost and I will be
     once
     >    again
     >    politically homeless. I have no problems with co-ops existing.
     You
     >    do
     >    you, but there must be the ability for a person to revoke
     consent
     >    and
     >    leave a commune in order for it to be voluntary. Since there
     has
     >    been
     >    advocacy for the forced taking of property, I cannot support
     that,
     >    will
     >    not support that, and anyone in Region 1 who has a problem with
     me
     >    saying such is welcome to demand a recall of my post with their
     >    chairs.
     >    It is NOT divisive to call out aggression in ideology.
     >    Craig Bowden
     >    Region 1 Alternate
     >    On 2018-08-13 13:10, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
     >    > Since a criticism lodged was about distraction from
     candidates-
     >    expect
     >    > letters from candidates who have expressed that it kept them
     in
     >    the
     >    > race because they could point to national leaders repudiating
     >    this.
     >    >
     >    > If you don’t think association with communism will come out
     and
     >    bite
     >    > our candidates in the ass, well....
     >    >
     >    > I know that not everyone cares about the sheerly ideological
     >    points
     >    > but
     >    > rather are election focused.
     >    >
     >    > How is welcoming communists and looting business owners going
     to
     >    > help
     >    > us at the polls??
     >    >
     >    > It isn’t.
     >    >
     >    > -Caryn Ann
     >    >
     >    > On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 12:55 PM Justin O'Donnell via
     >    Lnc-business
     >    > <[1][3][6][5]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
     >    >
     >    > I received the following email, espousing praise for Ms
     Harlos
     >    and
     >    > Mr
     >    > Smith for their opposition to socialist influence in the LP.
     >    > ---
     >    > Yours in Liberty,
     >    > Justin O'Donnell
     >    > LNC Region 8 Representative
     >    > LPNH Alternate- LNC Platform Committee
     >    > Chair- LPNH Platform Committee
     >    > Candidate for US Congress, NH-2
     >    > [2][4][7][6]www.odonnell2018.org
     >    > -------- Original Message --------
     >    > Subject: Confidence in LNC restored
     >    > Date: 2018-08-13 14:48
     >    > From: demochamp <[3][5][8][7]demochamp at yahoo.com>
     >    > To: [4][6][9][8]justin.odonnell at lp.org
     >    > Hello my name is Michael Cordova I am a Libertarian party
     member
     >    > from
     >    > Albuquerque New Mexico.
     >    > Last week after much consideration I renewed my membership to
     >    > the
     >    > Libertarian party
     >    > I had recently let my membership lapse for several months
     trying
     >    > to
     >    > figure out where I belong, due to the recent run for national
     >    > chair
     >    > by a
     >    > self proclaimed socialist as well as rhetoric from the
     >    libertarian
     >    > socialist caucus. I had lost hope that I belonged in the LP.
     I do
     >    > not
     >    > support "bottom unity" and fail to understand how socialism
     of
     >    any
     >    > kind
     >    > is compatible with the LP.
     >    > I am writing this e-mail because several members of the LNC
     >    > have
     >    > stepped up and spoken out against socialism and what I
     consider
     >    an
     >    > attempted socialist takeover.
     >    > I would like to personally thank:
     >    > Caryn Ann Harlos & Joshua Smith
     >    > They both have renewed my confidence in the LP leadership and
     >    have
     >    > giving me hope for the future of the party.
     >    > I can now tell my friends and family who were hesitant to
     join
     >    > the
     >    > party due to the ties to left wing economic policies like
     >    Medicare
     >    > for
     >    > all and ideas like rent is theft and capitalism is murder,
     that
     >    > those
     >    > ideas and policies do not represent me nor the Libertarian
     party.
     >    > Thanks again.
     >    > Michael Cordova
     >    >
     >    > --
     >    >
     >    > --
     >    > In Liberty,
     >    > Caryn Ann Harlos
     >    > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee
     Secretary
     >    > - [5]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
     >    > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
     >    > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
     >    > We defend your rights
     >    > And oppose the use of force
     >    > Taxation is theft
     >    >
     >    > References
     >    >
     >    > 1. mailto:[7][10][9]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >    > 2. [8][11][10]http://www.odonnell2018.org/
     >    > 3. mailto:[9][12][11]demochamp at yahoo.com
     >    > 4. mailto:[10][13][12]justin.odonnell at lp.org
     >    > 5. mailto:[11]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >    References
     >    1. [12][14][13]https://aka.ms/ghei36
     >    2. mailto:[13][15][14]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >    --
     >    --
     >    In Liberty,
     >    Caryn Ann Harlos
     >    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
     >    - [14]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
     >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
     >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
     >    We defend your rights
     >    And oppose the use of force
     >    Taxation is theft
     >    References
     >    1. mailto:[16][15]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >    2. mailto:[17][16]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >    3. mailto:[18][17]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >    4. [19][18]http://www.odonnell2018.org/
     >    5. mailto:[20][19]demochamp at yahoo.com
     >    6. mailto:[21][20]justin.odonnell at lp.org
     >    7. mailto:[22][21]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >    8. [23][22]http://www.odonnell2018.org/
     >    9. mailto:[24][23]demochamp at yahoo.com
     >    10. mailto:[25][24]justin.odonnell at lp.org
     >    11. mailto:[26]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >    12. [27][25]https://aka.ms/ghei36
     >    13. mailto:[28][26]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >    14. mailto:[29]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >
     >    --
     >
     >    --
     >    In Liberty,
     >    Caryn Ann Harlos
     >    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
     >    - [30]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
     >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
     >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
     >    We defend your rights
     >    And oppose the use of force
     >    Taxation is theft
     >
     > References
     >
     >    1. mailto:[27]susan.hogarth at lp.org
     >    2. tel:919-906-2106
     >    3. mailto:[28]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >    4. mailto:[29]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >    5. mailto:[30]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >    6. mailto:[31]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >    7. [32]http://www.odonnell2018.org/
     >    8. mailto:[33]demochamp at yahoo.com
     >    9. mailto:[34]justin.odonnell at lp.org
     >   10. mailto:[35]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >   11. [36]http://www.odonnell2018.org/
     >   12. mailto:[37]demochamp at yahoo.com
     >   13. mailto:[38]justin.odonnell at lp.org
     >   14. [39]https://aka.ms/ghei36
     >   15. mailto:[40]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >   16. mailto:[41]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >   17. mailto:[42]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >   18. mailto:[43]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >   19. [44]http://www.odonnell2018.org/
     >   20. mailto:[45]demochamp at yahoo.com
     >   21. mailto:[46]justin.odonnell at lp.org
     >   22. mailto:[47]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >   23. [48]http://www.odonnell2018.org/
     >   24. mailto:[49]demochamp at yahoo.com
     >   25. mailto:[50]justin.odonnell at lp.org
     >   26. mailto:[51]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >   27. [52]https://aka.ms/ghei36
     >   28. mailto:[53]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     >   29. mailto:[54]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >   30. mailto:[55]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org

   --

   --
   In Liberty,
   Caryn Ann Harlos
   Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
   - [56]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
   A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
   We defend your rights
   And oppose the use of force
   Taxation is theft

References

   1. mailto:steven.nekhaila at lp.org
   2. mailto:susan.hogarth at lp.org
   3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   4. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   5. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   6. http://www.odonnell2018.org/
   7. mailto:demochamp at yahoo.com
   8. mailto:justin.odonnell at lp.org
   9. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  10. http://www.odonnell2018.org/
  11. mailto:demochamp at yahoo.com
  12. mailto:justin.odonnell at lp.org
  13. https://aka.ms/ghei36
  14. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  15. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  16. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  17. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  18. http://www.odonnell2018.org/
  19. mailto:demochamp at yahoo.com
  20. mailto:justin.odonnell at lp.org
  21. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  22. http://www.odonnell2018.org/
  23. mailto:demochamp at yahoo.com
  24. mailto:justin.odonnell at lp.org
  25. https://aka.ms/ghei36
  26. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  27. mailto:susan.hogarth at lp.org
  28. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  29. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  30. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  31. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  32. http://www.odonnell2018.org/
  33. mailto:demochamp at yahoo.com
  34. mailto:justin.odonnell at lp.org
  35. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  36. http://www.odonnell2018.org/
  37. mailto:demochamp at yahoo.com
  38. mailto:justin.odonnell at lp.org
  39. https://aka.ms/ghei36
  40. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  41. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  42. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  43. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  44. http://www.odonnell2018.org/
  45. mailto:demochamp at yahoo.com
  46. mailto:justin.odonnell at lp.org
  47. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  48. http://www.odonnell2018.org/
  49. mailto:demochamp at yahoo.com
  50. mailto:justin.odonnell at lp.org
  51. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  52. https://aka.ms/ghei36
  53. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  54. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  55. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  56. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org


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