[Lnc-business] Complaints from members

brent.olsen at lp.org brent.olsen at lp.org
Tue Aug 14 11:52:40 EDT 2018


What is wrong?  Can't multi-task?  Sounds like a personal problem...

In Liberty,
K. Brent Olsen, Psy.D.
Alternate, Region 4

On 2018-08-14 08:46, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote:
> Ok guys.  We get it.  I don't think anyone here cares for socialism.
>    And we could trade emails of people complaining both ways all damn 
> day,
>    because I have plenty of members and candidates IRATE over this body
>    and party leadership putting this at the head of the priority list.  
> Oh
>    and I am one of those candidates.  John Phillips for County Board.
>    You don't think maybe we have better things to do than argue over 
> your
>    urge to purge?
>    Lets start with an admitted pedophile and rapist being on our roles 
> as
>    a lifetime member?  Yes Wes removed him from the online list, sick
>    bastard is still a member.  Maybe that is a little more important 
> than
>    a couple fools saying "rent is theft"?  Or are the bulkshit "muh 
> rules"
>    REEEEE's to strong?  how is this not more important than 10 deluded
>    people who couldn't say anything without getting booed?
>    We have A LOT of people saying DUI is a not a crime if no one gets
>    hurt, that is a bit more of an issue than 10 goofy people who got 
> booed
>    off stage saying rent is theft.
>    We have a thousand candidates looming for volunteers and help.  How
>    about getting that handled?  I noticed the convo about PA has 
> dropped
>    off the map.  As have all the other candidate support questions.  
> How
>    is that not more important than 10 silly people who kept getting 
> booed
>    off?
>    How about we teach our candidates how to answer hard questions?  
> Every
>    party has their lunatic fringe, the old parties have shown that the
>    best way to marginalize them is not give them press.  The response 
> is
>    easy when people ask is easy;
>    " Republicans have people like the WBC and people calling for 
> violence
>    against transgender children, Democrats have people painting 
> themselves
>    in period blood and calling for white people to die.  Both bomb
>    children, but your worried about a fool saying rent is theft."
>    I get a laugh and a sheepish nod EVERY time I use that response.
>    AND at least 2 of the people pushing this the hardest are survivors 
> of
>    recent purge attempts themselves.  Radicals, anarchists, and the 
> Mises
>    caucus were all attacked in my current memory  Is that Irony? Or is 
> it
>    just being a damned hypocrite?
>    You know who else did purges? Here is a list that I would think 
> people
>    who claim to be interested in history might be familiar with.
>    
> [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Political_and_cultural_purges
>    Funny, lots of communists and fascists seem to like purges ...
>      Y'all are acting like a bunch of school children rather than the
>    adults we are supposed to be, especially compared to the other two
>    parties.
>     Did you forget we are the party that encourages individual thought?
>    You start purging and making big deals about every sap that says 
> stupid
>    shit we will never get ANYTHING done, because boy we have a lot of
>    people that say stupid shit.
>    Make your damn "rent is not theft" motion and move the fuck on.  I 
> even
>    agree with that statement.
>    We have more important stuff to do, stop with the immature bullshit 
> and
>    lets do that.  It is embarrassing that I even have to say that.
>    Anything else on this pile of horse shit will just be automatically
>    deleted as far as I'm concerned.
>    John Phillips
>    Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>    Cell [2]217-412-5973
> 
>    ------ Original message------
>    From: Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business
>    Date: Tue, Aug 14, 2018 9:57 AM
>    To: [3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
>    Cc: Steven Nekhaila;
>    Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Complaints from members
> Dear Colleagues,
> 
> I stand behind the Statement of Principles and libertarian ideals. I 
> vow
> to fight socialism in the Libertarian Party and collectivism in all of
> its forms. Socialism and Libertarianism are incompatible, even 
> anarchist
> sects of socialism which are diametrically opposed to the tenets of the
> very ideology this organization is poised to promote. I will not be
> silent, and I applaud my colleagues who are standing up against this
> entryism.
> 
> In Liberty,
> 
> Steven Nekhaila
> Region 2 Representative
> Libertarian National Committee
> 
> Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt
> "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
> 
> On [4]2018-08-13 05:42 PM, brent.olsen--- via Lnc-business wrote:
>> I'm with you.
>> 
>> -Brent
>> 
>> On [5]2018-08-13 09:30, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> I am in favour of member voices being heard.  And if that is where we
>>>    are going who wants to bet how many more support me for rejecting
>>>    socialism?  Any bets?
>>>    Will this LNC take a stand against completely inimical entryism or
>>> are
>>>    we only brave with white nationalists?
>>>    -Caryn Ann
>>> 
>>>    On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 9:57 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>    <[1[6]]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>    And I will be clear.
>>>    I have zero intention of promoting unity with socialism.  Or
>>>    communism.  EVER.  Mr. Shipley can file a standing complaint
>>> because I
>>>    will not be stopping.  I have only just begun.
>>>    -Caryn Ann
>>> 
>>>    On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>    <[2[7]]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>    Yes I absolutely said we have no unity with these messages and I
>>> will
>>>    continue to do so at every opportunity I have.
>>>    There are member complaints given to me that the LNC is shamefully
>>>    silent about leftist infiltration.
>>>    No unity with socialism.
>>>    No unity with communism.
>>>    Does any LNC member want to defend unity with the below?  The
>>>    membership deserves to know if you do.
>>>    On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 9:47 AM Richard Longstreth via 
>>> Lnc-business
>>>    <[3[8]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>         As promised to those members, I will bring their complaints 
>>> to
>>>      the LNC.
>>>         I have encouraged all parties to to submit formal complaints
>>> with
>>>         greivances if they expect to see action. I do not want to 
>>> turn
>>>      this
>>>         into a bashing session but do want their thoughts heard.
>>>         Caryn Ann Harlos is accused by two members of abusing her
>>>      position to
>>>         send a message of anti-unity within the LP amongst
>>> philosophical
>>>         libertarians.
>>>         Joshua Smith is accused of unprofessional behavior and
>>> personal
>>>      attacks
>>>         on Facebook.
>>>         If a formal complaint comes through, I will supply more
>>>      information.
>>>         Richard
>>>         --
>>>         Richard Longstreth
>>>         Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT,
>>> WA,
>>>      WY)
>>>         Libertarian National Committee
>>>         [1][4[9]]richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>>         [10]931.538.9300
>>>      References
>>>         1. mailto:[5[11]]richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>> 
>>>    --
>>>    --
>>>    In Liberty,
>>>    Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>>>    - [6][12]Caryn.Ann.[13] Harlos at LP.org or[14] Secretary at LP.org.
>>>    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[15] LPedia at LP.org
>>>    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>    We defend your rights
>>>    And oppose the use of force
>>>    Taxation is theft
>>> 
>>>    --
>>>    --
>>>    In Liberty,
>>>    Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>>>    - [7][16]Caryn.Ann.[17] Harlos at LP.org or[18] Secretary at LP.org.
>>>    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[19] LPedia at LP.org
>>>    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>    We defend your rights
>>>    And oppose the use of force
>>>    Taxation is theft
>>> 
>>> References
>>> 
>>>    1. mailto[20]:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>    2. mailto[21]:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>>    3. mailto[22]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>    4. mailto[23]:richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>>    5. mailto[24]:richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>>    6. mailto[25]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>    7. mailto[26]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 
> References
> 
>    1. 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Political_and_cultural_purges
>    2. tel:217-412-5973
>    3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>    4. tel:2018-08-13 05
>    5. tel:2018-08-13 09
>    6. mailto:]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>    7. mailto:]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>    8. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>    9. mailto:]richard.longstreth at lp.org
>   10. tel:931.538.9300
>   11. mailto:]richard.longstreth at lp.org
>   12. http://Caryn.An/
>   13. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
>   14. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
>   15. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
>   16. http://Caryn.An/
>   17. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
>   18. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
>   19. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
>   20. mailto::caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>   21. mailto::caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>   22. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>   23. mailto::richard.longstreth at lp.org
>   24. mailto::richard.longstreth at lp.org
>   25. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>   26. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org




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