[Lnc-business] Complaints from members
brent.olsen at lp.org
brent.olsen at lp.org
Tue Aug 14 11:52:40 EDT 2018
What is wrong? Can't multi-task? Sounds like a personal problem...
In Liberty,
K. Brent Olsen, Psy.D.
Alternate, Region 4
On 2018-08-14 08:46, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote:
> Ok guys. We get it. I don't think anyone here cares for socialism.
> And we could trade emails of people complaining both ways all damn
> day,
> because I have plenty of members and candidates IRATE over this body
> and party leadership putting this at the head of the priority list.
> Oh
> and I am one of those candidates. John Phillips for County Board.
> You don't think maybe we have better things to do than argue over
> your
> urge to purge?
> Lets start with an admitted pedophile and rapist being on our roles
> as
> a lifetime member? Yes Wes removed him from the online list, sick
> bastard is still a member. Maybe that is a little more important
> than
> a couple fools saying "rent is theft"? Or are the bulkshit "muh
> rules"
> REEEEE's to strong? how is this not more important than 10 deluded
> people who couldn't say anything without getting booed?
> We have A LOT of people saying DUI is a not a crime if no one gets
> hurt, that is a bit more of an issue than 10 goofy people who got
> booed
> off stage saying rent is theft.
> We have a thousand candidates looming for volunteers and help. How
> about getting that handled? I noticed the convo about PA has
> dropped
> off the map. As have all the other candidate support questions.
> How
> is that not more important than 10 silly people who kept getting
> booed
> off?
> How about we teach our candidates how to answer hard questions?
> Every
> party has their lunatic fringe, the old parties have shown that the
> best way to marginalize them is not give them press. The response
> is
> easy when people ask is easy;
> " Republicans have people like the WBC and people calling for
> violence
> against transgender children, Democrats have people painting
> themselves
> in period blood and calling for white people to die. Both bomb
> children, but your worried about a fool saying rent is theft."
> I get a laugh and a sheepish nod EVERY time I use that response.
> AND at least 2 of the people pushing this the hardest are survivors
> of
> recent purge attempts themselves. Radicals, anarchists, and the
> Mises
> caucus were all attacked in my current memory Is that Irony? Or is
> it
> just being a damned hypocrite?
> You know who else did purges? Here is a list that I would think
> people
> who claim to be interested in history might be familiar with.
>
> [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Political_and_cultural_purges
> Funny, lots of communists and fascists seem to like purges ...
> Y'all are acting like a bunch of school children rather than the
> adults we are supposed to be, especially compared to the other two
> parties.
> Did you forget we are the party that encourages individual thought?
> You start purging and making big deals about every sap that says
> stupid
> shit we will never get ANYTHING done, because boy we have a lot of
> people that say stupid shit.
> Make your damn "rent is not theft" motion and move the fuck on. I
> even
> agree with that statement.
> We have more important stuff to do, stop with the immature bullshit
> and
> lets do that. It is embarrassing that I even have to say that.
> Anything else on this pile of horse shit will just be automatically
> deleted as far as I'm concerned.
> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> Cell [2]217-412-5973
>
> ------ Original message------
> From: Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business
> Date: Tue, Aug 14, 2018 9:57 AM
> To: [3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org;
> Cc: Steven Nekhaila;
> Subject:Re: [Lnc-business] Complaints from members
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> I stand behind the Statement of Principles and libertarian ideals. I
> vow
> to fight socialism in the Libertarian Party and collectivism in all of
> its forms. Socialism and Libertarianism are incompatible, even
> anarchist
> sects of socialism which are diametrically opposed to the tenets of the
> very ideology this organization is poised to promote. I will not be
> silent, and I applaud my colleagues who are standing up against this
> entryism.
>
> In Liberty,
>
> Steven Nekhaila
> Region 2 Representative
> Libertarian National Committee
>
> Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt
> "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
>
> On [4]2018-08-13 05:42 PM, brent.olsen--- via Lnc-business wrote:
>> I'm with you.
>>
>> -Brent
>>
>> On [5]2018-08-13 09:30, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> I am in favour of member voices being heard. And if that is where we
>>> are going who wants to bet how many more support me for rejecting
>>> socialism? Any bets?
>>> Will this LNC take a stand against completely inimical entryism or
>>> are
>>> we only brave with white nationalists?
>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 9:57 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> <[1[6]]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> And I will be clear.
>>> I have zero intention of promoting unity with socialism. Or
>>> communism. EVER. Mr. Shipley can file a standing complaint
>>> because I
>>> will not be stopping. I have only just begun.
>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> <[2[7]]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes I absolutely said we have no unity with these messages and I
>>> will
>>> continue to do so at every opportunity I have.
>>> There are member complaints given to me that the LNC is shamefully
>>> silent about leftist infiltration.
>>> No unity with socialism.
>>> No unity with communism.
>>> Does any LNC member want to defend unity with the below? The
>>> membership deserves to know if you do.
>>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 9:47 AM Richard Longstreth via
>>> Lnc-business
>>> <[3[8]]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> As promised to those members, I will bring their complaints
>>> to
>>> the LNC.
>>> I have encouraged all parties to to submit formal complaints
>>> with
>>> greivances if they expect to see action. I do not want to
>>> turn
>>> this
>>> into a bashing session but do want their thoughts heard.
>>> Caryn Ann Harlos is accused by two members of abusing her
>>> position to
>>> send a message of anti-unity within the LP amongst
>>> philosophical
>>> libertarians.
>>> Joshua Smith is accused of unprofessional behavior and
>>> personal
>>> attacks
>>> on Facebook.
>>> If a formal complaint comes through, I will supply more
>>> information.
>>> Richard
>>> --
>>> Richard Longstreth
>>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT,
>>> WA,
>>> WY)
>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>> [1][4[9]]richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>> [10]931.538.9300
>>> References
>>> 1. mailto:[5[11]]richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> In Liberty,
>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>>> - [6][12]Caryn.Ann.[13] Harlos at LP.org or[14] Secretary at LP.org.
>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[15] LPedia at LP.org
>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> We defend your rights
>>> And oppose the use of force
>>> Taxation is theft
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> In Liberty,
>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>>> - [7][16]Caryn.Ann.[17] Harlos at LP.org or[18] Secretary at LP.org.
>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee -[19] LPedia at LP.org
>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> We defend your rights
>>> And oppose the use of force
>>> Taxation is theft
>>>
>>> References
>>>
>>> 1. mailto[20]:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>> 2. mailto[21]:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>> 3. mailto[22]:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> 4. mailto[23]:richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>> 5. mailto[24]:richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>> 6. mailto[25]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>> 7. mailto[26]:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>
> References
>
> 1.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Political_and_cultural_purges
> 2. tel:217-412-5973
> 3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 4. tel:2018-08-13 05
> 5. tel:2018-08-13 09
> 6. mailto:]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> 7. mailto:]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> 8. mailto:]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 9. mailto:]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> 10. tel:931.538.9300
> 11. mailto:]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> 12. http://Caryn.An/
> 13. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
> 14. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
> 15. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
> 16. http://Caryn.An/
> 17. mailto: Harlos at LP.org
> 18. mailto: Secretary at LP.org.
> 19. mailto: LPedia at LP.org
> 20. mailto::caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> 21. mailto::caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> 22. mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 23. mailto::richard.longstreth at lp.org
> 24. mailto::richard.longstreth at lp.org
> 25. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> 26. mailto::Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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