[Lnc-business] Seeking Co-Sponsors for Resolution to Re-Affirm The LP's Stance For Property Rights
Elizabeth Van Horn
elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
Tue Aug 14 15:05:44 EDT 2018
Re-sending as my text is scrunched together.
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We have a platform that states what we stand for, and you were the
platform committee chair for 2018. I was on that committee, as were
several other members of this board.
Did we not do our duty? Did we leave the platform to be ambiguous and
confusing? I don't think so.
Our wonderful LP platform speaks for the LP, and tells prospective
members where we stand. We educate from that document, and I know that
you understand this, as you were instrumental in doing platform plank
posts on social media. You know that the platform speaks for us on
issues of property rights.
---
Elizabeth Van Horn
On 2018-08-14 15:01, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
> We have a platform that states what we stand for, and you were the
> platform committee chair for 2018. I was on that committee, as were
> several other members of this board.
> Did we not do our duty? Did we leave the platform to be ambiguous
> and
> confusing? I don't think so.
> Our wonderful LP platform speaks for the LP, and tells prospective
> members where we stand. We educate from that document, and I know
> that you understand this, as you were instrumental in doing platform
> plank posts on social media. You know that the platform speaks for
> us
> on issues of property rights.
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
>
> On 2018-08-14 14:55, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
> It is quite problematic that stating the Party's foundational
> Principles is controversial or thought to need a platform change.
>
>
>
> We have gone far from our roots.
>
>
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 12:51 PM Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business
> <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> I also would have supported the first effort (with my language
> changes)
> as it was a clear support of capitalism. Too bad that wasn't
> embraced.
> On this list I've seen multiple times someone talk about past
> actions as
> a reason, (we denounced that, so why not this?) the more times I
> see,
> the more this looks like a grudge match.
> As the players in this drama, and yes it's a big drama on social
> media,
> are ones that have had an ongoing war-of-words with the targets of
> this
> suggested resolution. Only, some of the players also happen to be
> on
> the LNC, and are now using that position to escalate.
> I was willing to support a resolution that embraced capitalism, as
> I
> live my life as a capitalist. It is my economic system of choice,
> and I
> make an effort to teach this to others.
> Too bad this isn't about championing the wonderful economic system
> of
> capitalism, but instead is about targeting a few noisy LP members.
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
> On 2018-08-14 14:26, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote:
> > This is not the same language as was presented and discussed
> earlier.
> > Just to clarify for people who may just be skimming.
> > I probably would have gone along with the first. This one is
> toxic
> > and
> > the language clearly meant to be be a purge.
> > If it was just a supporting of property rights I would
> absolutely
> > support it. This is far more than that, and honestly far
> exceeds
> > the
> > scope of the duties of this body. It is a direct change to
> policy
> > seriously impacts current members and activists.
> > If you want a platform change take it to Austin. That is not
> our
> > job.
> > I will be voting no on this, and urge everyone else to
> seriously
> > consider whether they support a precedent of purging groups.
> Not to
> > mention how many of you during the JC discussion were
> treading
> very
> > carefully about not exceeding our scope, a point that was
> well
> taken
> > after reflection, will you be consistent here?
> > John Phillips
> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> > Cell [1]217-412-5973
> >
> > ------ Original message------
> > From: Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business
> > Date: Tue, Aug 14, 2018 10:50 AM
> > To: LNC-Business List;
> > Cc: Steven Nekhaila;
> > Subject:[Lnc-business] Seeking Co-Sponsors for Resolution to
> > Re-Affirm
> > The LP's Stance For Property Rights
> > Dear Colleagues,
> >
> > I invite you to co-sponsor the following resolution which
> disavows
> > socialist & communist policies and re-affirms the Libertarian
> Party
> > position on championing property rights.
> >
> > Co-Sponsors: Joshua Smith, Justin O'Donnel, and Caryn Ann Harlos
> >
> > WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the free market and
> therefore
> > the right of privatization of property as an extension of the
> > individual;
> >
> > WHEREAS, the Statement of Principles of The Libertarian Party
> > explicitly
> > supports the right to private property ownership, including the
> right
> > to
> > do business utilizing that property as capital;
> >
> > WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party strongly supports the rights of
> > individuals to own private property including land, structures,
> natural
> > resources and other private space through homesteading,
> purchase,
> and
> > other lawful libertarian means;
> >
> > WHEREAS, ownership of private property, including but not
> limited
> to
> > land and housing, does not require continual or personal use to
> exist
> > as
> > justly owned property unless otherwise abandoned;
> >
> > WHEREAS, these have been part of the principles of the
> Libertarian
> > Party
> > since its inception;
> >
> > THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that socialist and communist property
> > ownership schemes, including the collectivization of property,
> unlawful
> > usurpation of property, and incorrect characterizations of
> private
> > property, unless otherwise voluntarily agreed by all parties,
> are
> > incompatible with the philosophy of the Libertarian Party.
> >
> >
> > In Liberty,
> >
> > Steven Nekhaila
> > Region 2 Representative
> > Libertarian National Committee
> >
> > Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt
> > "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. tel:217-412-5973
>
> --
>
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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