[Lnc-business] Seeking Co-Sponsors for Resolution to Re-Affirm The LP's Stance For Property Rights

[brent.olsen at lp.org]

So why speak or vote in opposition to a resolution which shows our 
support for that platform?  Not sure what the issue is here on 
supporting this resolution.  It shows our resolve in supporting our 
Statement of Principles and our platform against individuals who are 
attempting to obscure the message of the party.

in Liberty,
K. Brent Olsen, Psy.D.
Alternate, Region 4

On 2018-08-14 12:01, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
> We have a platform that states what we stand for, and you were the
>    platform committee chair for 2018.  I was on that committee, as were
>    several other members of this board.
>    Did we not do our duty?  Did we leave the platform to be ambiguous 
> and
>    confusing?  I don't think so.
>    Our wonderful LP platform speaks for the LP, and tells prospective
>    members where we stand.   We educate from that document, and I know
>    that you understand this, as you were instrumental in doing platform
>    plank posts on social media.  You know that the platform speaks for 
> us
>    on issues of property rights.
> 
>    ---
>    Elizabeth Van Horn
> 
>    On 2018-08-14 14:55, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> 
>    It is quite problematic that stating the Party's foundational
>    Principles is controversial or thought to need a platform change.
> 
> 
> 
>    We have gone far from our roots.
> 
> 
> 
>    -Caryn Ann
> 
> 
> 
>    On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 12:51 PM Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business
>    <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> 
>      I also would have supported the first effort (with my language
>      changes)
>      as it was a clear support of capitalism.  Too bad that wasn't
>      embraced.
>      On this list I've seen multiple times someone talk about past
>      actions as
>      a reason, (we denounced that, so why not this?) the more times I
>      see,
>      the more this looks like a grudge match.
>      As the players in this drama, and yes it's a big drama on social
>      media,
>      are ones that have had an ongoing war-of-words with the targets of
>      this
>      suggested resolution.  Only, some of the players also happen to be
>      on
>      the LNC, and are now using that position to escalate.
>      I was willing to support a resolution that embraced capitalism, as 
> I
>      live my life as a capitalist. It is my economic system of choice,
>      and I
>      make an effort to teach this to others.
>      Too bad this isn't about championing the wonderful economic system
>      of
>      capitalism, but instead is about targeting a few noisy LP members.
>      ---
>      Elizabeth Van Horn
>      On 2018-08-14 14:26, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote:
>      > This is not the same language as was presented and discussed
>      earlier.
>      >    Just to clarify for people who may just be skimming.
>      >    I probably would have gone along with the first.  This one is
>      toxic
>      > and
>      >    the language clearly meant to be be a purge.
>      >    If it was just a supporting of property rights I would
>      absolutely
>      >    support it.  This is far more than that, and honestly far
>      exceeds
>      > the
>      >    scope of the duties of this body.  It is a direct change to
>      policy
>      >    seriously impacts current members and activists.
>      >    If you want a platform change take it to Austin. That is not
>      our
>      > job.
>      >    I will be voting no on this, and urge everyone else to
>      seriously
>      >    consider whether they support a precedent of purging groups.
>      Not to
>      >    mention how many of you during the JC discussion were 
> treading
>      very
>      >    carefully about not exceeding our scope, a point that was 
> well
>      taken
>      >    after reflection, will you be consistent here?
>      >    John Phillips
>      >    Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>      >    Cell [1]217-412-5973
>      >
>      >    ------ Original message------
>      >    From: Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business
>      >    Date: Tue, Aug 14, 2018 10:50 AM
>      >    To: LNC-Business List;
>      >    Cc: Steven Nekhaila;
>      >    Subject:[Lnc-business] Seeking Co-Sponsors for Resolution to
>      > Re-Affirm
>      >    The LP's Stance For Property Rights
>      > Dear Colleagues,
>      >
>      > I invite you to co-sponsor the following resolution which 
> disavows
>      > socialist & communist policies and re-affirms the Libertarian
>      Party
>      > position on championing property rights.
>      >
>      > Co-Sponsors: Joshua Smith, Justin O'Donnel, and Caryn Ann Harlos
>      >
>      > WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party supports the free market and
>      therefore
>      > the right of privatization of property as an extension of the
>      > individual;
>      >
>      > WHEREAS, the Statement of Principles of The Libertarian Party
>      > explicitly
>      > supports the right to private property ownership, including the
>      right
>      > to
>      > do business utilizing that property as capital;
>      >
>      > WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party strongly supports the rights of
>      > individuals to own private property including land, structures,
>      natural
>      > resources and other private space through homesteading, 
> purchase,
>      and
>      > other lawful libertarian means;
>      >
>      > WHEREAS, ownership of private property, including but not 
> limited
>      to
>      > land and housing, does not require continual or personal use to
>      exist
>      > as
>      > justly owned property unless otherwise abandoned;
>      >
>      > WHEREAS, these have been part of the principles of the 
> Libertarian
>      > Party
>      > since its inception;
>      >
>      > THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that socialist and communist property
>      > ownership schemes, including the collectivization of property,
>      unlawful
>      > usurpation of property, and incorrect characterizations of 
> private
>      > property, unless otherwise voluntarily agreed by all parties, 
> are
>      > incompatible with the philosophy of the Libertarian Party.
>      >
>      >
>      > In Liberty,
>      >
>      > Steven Nekhaila
>      > Region 2 Representative
>      > Libertarian National Committee
>      >
>      > Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt
>      > "Those without power cannot defend freedom"
>      >
>      > References
>      >
>      >    1. tel:217-412-5973
> 
>      --
> 
>    --
>    In Liberty,
>    Caryn Ann Harlos
>    Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
>    - [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> 
>    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>    We defend your rights
>    And oppose the use of force
>    Taxation is theft
> 
> References
> 
>    1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>    2. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org