[Lnc-business] DRAFT MINUTES FROM 7/12/18 EC MEETING - DRAFT 2
Caryn Ann Harlos
caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Wed Aug 15 06:36:05 EDT 2018
Reminder of last day for an EC member to present a qualifying objection to
these minutes.
-Caryn Ann
On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 6:24 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:
> Got it- that is what I was getting at here with the “blending” though the
> changes were not substantive- resetting the clock as a matter of common
> sense looking at the intent of the provisions.
>
> So it seems that I did here what you also did in great part.
>
> So absent an objection, I will treat this the same way with the “reset” of
> the comment period which is the time frame allotted in the opening email.
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 11:26 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
>> You can look back at prior emails to see how it went last term.
>>
>> I tried to get my ExComm drafts out early in the 7-day period for the
>> draft production and start the auto-approve clock. That way, any requests
>> for changes could be incorporated quickly, and if necessary I could put out
>> an updated version still within the 7-day draft production time frame. I
>> treated the comment period as overlapping that 7-day draft production phase.
>>
>> If a change request was substantive, I'd reset the auto-approve clock to
>> be 14 days from the updated draft. If it was non-substantive, I'd leave
>> the existing clock running but offer to reset it if anyone asked me to.
>>
>>
>> -Alicia
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 1:09 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Yes I saw that but it seemed to suggest an additional time period -
>>> otherwise how else are issues corrected? If there were corrections
>>> during that first 14 day period - are those just made immediately with
>>> the rest of that initial 14 day period given for additional comment?
>>>
>>> Since the changes were stylistic only - and those were made, would
>>> these then be auto-approved? It seems like the streamlining doesn't
>>> account for any changes -- and what to do if there are. So it would
>>> seem then - since all proposed stylistic changes were accepted and
>>> there were no substantive objections, that this is then approved, is
>>> that correct?
>>>
>>> Can you please clarify?
>>>
>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 2:03 AM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business
>>> <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> > Caryn Ann,
>>> >
>>> > It seemed from your July 18 email message that you had realized the
>>> process
>>> > for auto-approving ExComm minutes was different from the process for
>>> LNC
>>> > minutes, but this timeline is a blending of the two different
>>> processes.
>>> >
>>> > For LNC minutes, it's a comment period, followed by an updated draft,
>>> and
>>> > then auto-approval after the passage of time.
>>> >
>>> > For ExComm minutes, it's much more streamlined. There is no updated
>>> draft
>>> > phase and then auto-approval. It's just first draft, followed by
>>> > auto-approval without objection. The July 31 date was the
>>> > approval-without-objection date, not the end of a comment period,
>>> which then
>>> > starts another 14 days of approval-without-objection.
>>> >
>>> > -Alicia
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 3:43 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>>> > <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Attached please find the second draft of the EC minutes from July 12,
>>> >> 2018.
>>> >>
>>> >> As per the Policy Manual these draft minutes will be automatically
>>> >> upgraded to final on August 15, 2018 absent a qualifying objection
>>> >> from an EC member.
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> In Liberty,
>>> >> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> >> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
>>> >> Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>> >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> >> We defend your rights
>>> >> And oppose the use of force
>>> >> Taxation is theft
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> In Liberty,
>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
>>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>>
>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> We defend your rights
>>> And oppose the use of force
>>> Taxation is theft
>>>
>>
>> --
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
--
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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Reminder of last day for an EC member to present a qualifying objection
to these minutes.
-Caryn Ann
On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 6:24 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
<[1]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
Got it- that is what I was getting at here with the “blending” though
the changes were not substantive- resetting the clock as a matter of
common sense looking at the intent of the provisions.
So it seems that I did here what you also did in great part.
So absent an objection, I will treat this the same way with the “reset”
of the comment period which is the time frame allotted in the opening
email.
-Caryn Ann
On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 11:26 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business
<[2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
You can look back at prior emails to see how it went last term.
I tried to get my ExComm drafts out early in the 7-day period for the
draft production and start the auto-approve clock. That way, any
requests for changes could be incorporated quickly, and if necessary I
could put out an updated version still within the 7-day draft
production time frame. I treated the comment period as overlapping
that 7-day draft production phase.
If a change request was substantive, I'd reset the auto-approve clock
to be 14 days from the updated draft. If it was non-substantive, I'd
leave the existing clock running but offer to reset it if anyone asked
me to.
-Alicia
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 1:09 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
<[3]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
Yes I saw that but it seemed to suggest an additional time period -
otherwise how else are issues corrected? If there were corrections
during that first 14 day period - are those just made immediately
with
the rest of that initial 14 day period given for additional comment?
Since the changes were stylistic only - and those were made, would
these then be auto-approved? It seems like the streamlining doesn't
account for any changes -- and what to do if there are. So it would
seem then - since all proposed stylistic changes were accepted and
there were no substantive objections, that this is then approved, is
that correct?
Can you please clarify?
-Caryn Ann
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 2:03 AM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business
<[4]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> Caryn Ann,
>
> It seemed from your July 18 email message that you had realized the
process
> for auto-approving ExComm minutes was different from the process for
LNC
> minutes, but this timeline is a blending of the two different
processes.
>
> For LNC minutes, it's a comment period, followed by an updated draft,
and
> then auto-approval after the passage of time.
>
> For ExComm minutes, it's much more streamlined. There is no updated
draft
> phase and then auto-approval. It's just first draft, followed by
> auto-approval without objection. The July 31 date was the
> approval-without-objection date, not the end of a comment period,
which then
> starts another 14 days of approval-without-objection.
>
> -Alicia
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 3:43 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
> <[5]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> Attached please find the second draft of the EC minutes from July
12,
>> 2018.
>>
>> As per the Policy Manual these draft minutes will be automatically
>> upgraded to final on August 15, 2018 absent a qualifying objection
>> from an EC member.
>>
>> --
>> In Liberty,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>>
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> We defend your rights
>> And oppose the use of force
>> Taxation is theft
>
>
--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [6]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [7]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
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