[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-22: PROPERTY RIGHTS RESOLUTION

Susan Hogarth susan.hogarth at lp.org
Fri Aug 17 04:18:10 EDT 2018


      
  

 I vote no
  
  
  
  
  Susan Jane Hogarth
  
  Region 5 Alternate
  
  919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106)
  
  
  
  

  
  
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> On Aug 16, 2018 at 11:29 PM,  <Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business (mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org)>  wrote:
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>  I just caught news that the US Senate has unanimously passed a resolution upholding the right to free speech against Trump. Let me ask the members of this body one thing, if a body (the US Senate) that clearly doesn’t protect the right of free speech can unanimously pass a resolution upholding free speech, despite the fact that it is redundantly in the Constitution, what is stopping us from re-affirming our beliefs in private property? Is it truly redundant? Or are we treating our SoP and Platform as a living document? I hope it’s the former. Finally, I know very well our candidates will put up a fight in a way the senate has overtly failed to protect our rights, and I believe they would have supported such a resolution on the senate floor and meant it immensley with all of the fire in their heart.  
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>  In Liberty,  
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> impotentes defendere liberatum non possunt  
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> >  On Aug 16, 2018 at 11:05 PM,  <Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business (mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org)>  wrote:  
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> >  You leave little room for doubt. Alas, I look forward to working with you on other endeavors to mutually benefit the party.  
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> >   >  On Aug 16, 2018 at 7:47 PM,  <John Phillips (mailto:john.phillips at lp.org)>  wrote:  
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> >   >  I am pefectly comfortable with the message I am sending. Loud and proud. Thanks for reminding me!  
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> >   >  From: Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business  
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> >   >  Date: Thu, Aug 16, 2018 6:36 PM  
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> >   >  Subject:[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-22: PROPERTY RIGHTS RESOLUTION  
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> >   >  Dear colleagues, I for one will never stop fighting for liberty, and that includes property rights. To those who have voted aye, I commend you. To those who have voted no, please realize the message this conveys to our members. In the end, the discussions don’t matter, only the message. In Liberty, Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative impotentes defendere liberatum non possunt “Those without power cannot defend freedom”  >   >  On Aug 16, 2018 at 5:01 PM, wrote:  >   >   >   >  Good afternoon everyone,  >   >  Life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and the right to own  >  property.  >   >  46 years ago, a few people in a living room in Colorado knew that these  >  4 things were what would create a free society. They put their heart and  >  soul in to creating a vessel to get us there. They bled, they argued,  >  they lost sleep, they wrote, and they laid a foundation that would  >  eventually create the Libertarian Party. The place that all of us here  >  call home today. A place for the principled to go and fight back.  >   >  They did this as a direct opposition to tyranny. They did this because  >  people in this country yearn to be free. They knew that people in this  >  country live their lives every day under an oppressive rule, and they  >  suffer heavily from Stockholm Syndrome. They created this party to wake  >  people up, and show them what a free society could look like for them.  >  The founders of this party had and still have intestinal fortitude. They  >  stood up to tyranny. They looked it directly in the face, and asserted  >  that it would not break us. They STOOD ON PRINCIPLE, always.  >   >  Today, I stand witness to members on this board kowtowing to tyranny. I  >  am watching you open up this party to the exact types it was created to  >  defeat: Bullies who wish to prevent a free society, collectivists who  >  refute the rights of the individual, those who would contend that you  >  don't have the right to own a summer home or an extra car, and people  >  who will take your things. Communists and socialists, ideologies that  >  have literally killed more than 100 million people in the name of "the  >  greater good". I am ashamed to lay witness to leaders of this party who  >  act like that doesn't matter. This resolution was written in a style  >  that leaves it open for advocates of antithetical economic values to  >  participate, as long as they push for a voluntary model. The "lawful"  >  part many of you are upset about is an appeal to natural law- the law  >  that governs our rights. Those same rights that exist in the state of  >  nature, prior to, and in the complete absence of a state. What it did  >  not do is give those who wish to twist our principles into violence  >  against property and business owners even a single inch of wiggle room  >  to operate inside of our party, or our on platform. It was solid, and  >  worded exactly how it needed to be.  >   >  Many of you ask "Why are we giving credence to 6 people in the party who  >  are whackos"? It's because it's not just 6 of them. I have personally  >  been in the trenches of this battle for the heart and soul of this party  >  for a year. They are recruiting. They are telling media and the public  >  that we support violence, the abolition of property and capital, and  >  terrible policy points like "Medicare for all". One of them did this on  >  RT; many of them are doing it through candidate statements. They are not  >  only driving good members and volunteers to leave, but they are  >  destroying our outreach. This resolution demonstrates to the outer  >  circle of this party, and the thousands and thousands of small l  >  libertarians that we care about principle, that we will not be bullied.  >  Standing up to tyranny is what Harry Browne did. It's what David Nolan,  >  and John Hospers, Ed Crane, Tonie Nathan, and Murray Rothbard did. These  >  great men and women who took up swords and said no more. Where is the  >  fight in you? Have that many of you really lost your way? Are you really  >  scared to reaffirm our stance on property in a way that secures our  >  party and principles from tyranny? We are always crying about people not  >  doing enough, and we can't even come together on something as simple as  >  strengthening our principles? What manner of example do you want to set?  >   >  I unequivocally vote yes on this resolution. We have until Wednesday  >  night to show the party that we wont be bullied, or cater to communists  >  and socialists. There is still time to prove that you have the  >  intestinal fortitude to say "enough".  >   >  I hope you will make the right decision in the eyes of our candidates,  >  local and state leaders, and hard-working volunteers across the country  >  who deserve a national leadership team that will undoubtedly stand on  >  our principles, always and without hesitation.  >   >   >  Thank you,  >  Joshua D. Smith  >  LNC At Large  >Joshua.Smith at LP.ORG (mailto:%20Joshua.Smith at LP.ORG)  >   >  Dear colleagues, I for one will never stop fighting for liberty, and that includes property rights. To those who have voted aye, I commend you. To those who have voted no, please realize the message this conveys to our members. In the end, the discussions don’t matter, only the message. In Liberty, Steven Nekhaila Region 2 Representative impotentes defendere liberatum non possunt “Those without power cannot defend freedom” On Aug 16, 2018 at 5:01 PM,  <[1]joshua.sm (http://joshua.sm)ith--- via Lnc-business>  wrote: Good afternoon everyone, Life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and the right to own property. 46 years ago, a few people in a living room in Colorado knew that these 4 things were what would create a free society. They put their heart and soul in to creating a vessel to get us there. They bled, they argued, they lost sleep, they wrote, and they laid a foundation that would eventually create the Libertarian Party. The place that all of us here call home today. A place for the principled to go and fight back. They did this as a direct opposition to tyranny. They did this because people in this country yearn to be free. They knew that people in this country live their lives every day under an oppressive rule, and they suffer heavily from Stockholm Syndrome. They created this party to wake people up, and show them what a free society could look like for them. The founders of this party had and still have intestinal fortitude. They stood up to tyranny. They looked it directly in  the face, and asserted that it would not break us. They STOOD ON PRINCIPLE, always. Today, I stand witness to members on this board kowtowing to tyranny. I am watching you open up this party to the exact types it was created to defeat: Bullies who wish to prevent a free society, collectivists who refute the rights of the individual, those who would contend that you don't have the right to own a summer home or an extra car, and people who will take your things. Communists and socialists, ideologies that have literally killed more than 100 million people in the name of "the greater good". I am ashamed to lay witness to leaders of this party who act like that doesn't matter. This resolution was written in a style that leaves it open for advocates of antithetical economic values to participate, as long as they push for a voluntary model. The "lawful" part many of you are upset about is an appeal to natural law- the law that governs our rights. Those same rights that exist in the state of  nature, prior to, and in the complete absence of a state. What it did not do is give those who wish to twist our principles into violence against property and business owners even a single inch of wiggle room to operate inside of our party, or our on platform. It was solid, and worded exactly how it needed to be. Many of you ask "Why are we giving credence to 6 people in the party who are whackos"? It's because it's not just 6 of them. I have personally been in the trenches of this battle for the heart and soul of this party for a year. They are recruiting. They are telling media and the public that we support violence, the abolition of property and capital, and terrible policy points like "Medicare for all". One of them did this on RT; many of them are doing it through candidate statements. They are not only driving good members and volunteers to leave, but they are destroying our outreach. This resolution demonstrates to the outer circle of this party, and the thousands and thousands of small l libertarians that we care about principle, that we will not be bullied. Standing up to tyranny is what Harry Browne did. It's what David Nolan, and John Hospers, Ed Crane, Tonie Nathan, and Murray Rothbard did. These great men and women who took up swords and said no more. Where is the fight in you? Have that many of you really lost your way? Are you really scared to reaffirm our stance on property in a way that secures our party and principles from tyranny? We are always crying about people not doing enough, and we can't even come together on something as simple as strengthening our principles? What manner of example do you want to set? I unequivocally vote yes on this resolution. We have until Wednesday night to show the party that we wont be bullied, or cater to communists and socialists. There is still time to prove that you have the intestinal fortitude to say "enough". I hope you will make the right decision in the eyes of our candidates, local and state leaders, and hard-working volunteers across the country who deserve a national leadership team that will undoubtedly stand on our principles, always and without hesitation. Thank you, Joshua D. Smith LNC At LargeJoshua.Smith at LP.ORG (mailto:Joshua.Smith at LP.ORG) References 1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org (mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org)  
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   I vote no

   Susan Jane Hogarth

   Region 5 Alternate

   [1]919-906-2106

   On Aug 16, 2018 at 11:29 PM, <[2]Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business>
   wrote:


Dear Colleagues,





 I just caught news that the US Senate has unanimously passed a resolution uphol
ding the right to free speech against Trump. Let me ask the members of this body
 one thing, if a body (the US Senate) that clearly doesn’t protect the right of
free speech can unanimously pass a resolution upholding free speech, despite the
 fact that it is redundantly in the Constitution, what is stopping us from re-af
firming our beliefs in private property? Is it truly redundant? Or are we treati
ng our SoP and Platform as a living document? I hope it’s the former. Finally, I
 know very well our candidates will put up a fight in a way the senate has overt
ly failed to protect our rights, and I believe they would have supported such a
resolution on the senate floor and meant it immensley with all of the fire in th
eir heart.



 In Liberty,


Steven Nekhaila

Region 2 Representative



impotentes defendere liberatum non possunt

“Those without power cannot defend freedom”







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> On Aug 16, 2018 at 11:05 PM,  <Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business (mailto:lnc-bu
siness at hq.lp.org)>  wrote:
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>  You leave little room for doubt. Alas, I look forward to working with you on
other endeavors to mutually benefit the party.
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>  In Liberty,
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> Steven Nekhaila
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> Region 2 Representative
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> impotentes defendere liberatum non possunt
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> “Those without power cannot defend freedom”
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> >  On Aug 16, 2018 at 7:47 PM,  <John Phillips (mailto:john.phillips at lp.org)>
 wrote:
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> >  I am pefectly comfortable with the message I am sending. Loud and proud. Th
anks for reminding me!
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> >  John Phillips
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> >  Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
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> >  Cell 217-412-5973 (tel:217-412-5973)
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> >  ------ Original message------
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> >  From: Steven Nekhaila via Lnc-business
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> >  Date: Thu, Aug 16, 2018 6:36 PM
> >
> >  To: Lnc-Business;
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> >  Cc: Steven Nekhaila;
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> >  Subject:[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-22: PROPERTY RIGHTS RESOLUTION
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> >  Dear colleagues, I for one will never stop fighting for liberty, and that i
ncludes property rights. To those who have voted aye, I commend you. To those wh
o have voted no, please realize the message this conveys to our members. In the
end, the discussions don’t matter, only the message. In Liberty, Steven Nekhaila
 Region 2 Representative impotentes defendere liberatum non possunt “Those witho
ut power cannot defend freedom”  >   >  On Aug 16, 2018 at 5:01 PM, wrote:  >
>   >   >  Good afternoon everyone,  >   >  Life, liberty, the pursuit of happin
ess, and the right to own  >  property.  >   >  46 years ago, a few people in a
living room in Colorado knew that these  >  4 things were what would create a fr
ee society. They put their heart and  >  soul in to creating a vessel to get us
there. They bled, they argued,  >  they lost sleep, they wrote, and they laid a
foundation that would  >  eventually create the Libertarian Party. The place tha
t all of us here  >  call home today. A place for the principled to go and fight
 back.  >   >  They did this as a direct opposition to tyranny. They did this be
cause  >  people in this country yearn to be free. They knew that people in this
  >  country live their lives every day under an oppressive rule, and they  >  s
uffer heavily from Stockholm Syndrome. They created this party to wake  >  peopl
e up, and show them what a free society could look like for them.  >  The founde
rs of this party had and still have intestinal fortitude. They  >  stood up to t
yranny. They looked it directly in the face, and asserted  >  that it would not
break us. They STOOD ON PRINCIPLE, always.  >   >  Today, I stand witness to mem
bers on this board kowtowing to tyranny. I  >  am watching you open up this part
y to the exact types it was created to  >  defeat: Bullies who wish to prevent a
 free society, collectivists who  >  refute the rights of the individual, those
who would contend that you  >  don't have the right to own a summer home or an e
xtra car, and people  >  who will take your things. Communists and socialists, i
deologies that  >  have literally killed more than 100 million people in the nam
e of "the  >  greater good". I am ashamed to lay witness to leaders of this part
y who  >  act like that doesn't matter. This resolution was written in a style
>  that leaves it open for advocates of antithetical economic values to  >  part
icipate, as long as they push for a voluntary model. The "lawful"  >  part many
of you are upset about is an appeal to natural law- the law  >  that governs our
 rights. Those same rights that exist in the state of  >  nature, prior to, and
in the complete absence of a state. What it did  >  not do is give those who wis
h to twist our principles into violence  >  against property and business owners
 even a single inch of wiggle room  >  to operate inside of our party, or our on
 platform. It was solid, and  >  worded exactly how it needed to be.  >   >  Man
y of you ask "Why are we giving credence to 6 people in the party who  >  are wh
ackos"? It's because it's not just 6 of them. I have personally  >  been in the
trenches of this battle for the heart and soul of this party  >  for a year. The
y are recruiting. They are telling media and the public  >  that we support viol
ence, the abolition of property and capital, and  >  terrible policy points like
 "Medicare for all". One of them did this on  >  RT; many of them are doing it t
hrough candidate statements. They are not  >  only driving good members and volu
nteers to leave, but they are  >  destroying our outreach. This resolution demon
strates to the outer  >  circle of this party, and the thousands and thousands o
f small l  >  libertarians that we care about principle, that we will not be bul
lied.  >  Standing up to tyranny is what Harry Browne did. It's what David Nolan
,  >  and John Hospers, Ed Crane, Tonie Nathan, and Murray Rothbard did. These
>  great men and women who took up swords and said no more. Where is the  >  fig
ht in you? Have that many of you really lost your way? Are you really  >  scared
 to reaffirm our stance on property in a way that secures our  >  party and prin
ciples from tyranny? We are always crying about people not  >  doing enough, and
 we can't even come together on something as simple as  >  strengthening our pri
nciples? What manner of example do you want to set?  >   >  I unequivocally vote
 yes on this resolution. We have until Wednesday  >  night to show the party tha
t we wont be bullied, or cater to communists  >  and socialists. There is still
time to prove that you have the  >  intestinal fortitude to say "enough".  >   >
  I hope you will make the right decision in the eyes of our candidates,  >  loc
al and state leaders, and hard-working volunteers across the country  >  who des
erve a national leadership team that will undoubtedly stand on  >  our principle
s, always and without hesitation.  >   >   >  Thank you,  >  Joshua D. Smith  >
 LNC At Large  >Joshua.Smith at LP.ORG (mailto:%20Joshua.Smith at LP.ORG)  >   >  Dear
 colleagues, I for one will never stop fighting for liberty, and that includes p
roperty rights. To those who have voted aye, I commend you. To those who have vo
ted no, please realize the message this conveys to our members. In the end, the
discussions don’t matter, only the message. In Liberty, Steven Nekhaila Region 2
 Representative impotentes defendere liberatum non possunt “Those without power
cannot defend freedom” On Aug 16, 2018 at 5:01 PM,  <[1]joshua.sm (http://joshua
.sm)ith--- via Lnc-business>  wrote: Good afternoon everyone, Life, liberty, the
 pursuit of happiness, and the right to own property. 46 years ago, a few people
 in a living room in Colorado knew that these 4 things were what would create a
free society. They put their heart and soul in to creating a vessel to get us th
ere. They bled, they argued, they lost sleep, they wrote, and they laid a founda
tion that would eventually create the Libertarian Party. The place that all of u
s here call home today. A place for the principled to go and fight back. They di
d this as a direct opposition to tyranny. They did this because people in this c
ountry yearn to be free. They knew that people in this country live their lives
every day under an oppressive rule, and they suffer heavily from Stockholm Syndr
ome. They created this party to wake people up, and show them what a free societ
y could look like for them. The founders of this party had and still have intest
inal fortitude. They stood up to tyranny. They looked it directly in  the face,
and asserted that it would not break us. They STOOD ON PRINCIPLE, always. Today,
 I stand witness to members on this board kowtowing to tyranny. I am watching yo
u open up this party to the exact types it was created to defeat: Bullies who wi
sh to prevent a free society, collectivists who refute the rights of the individ
ual, those who would contend that you don't have the right to own a summer home
or an extra car, and people who will take your things. Communists and socialists
, ideologies that have literally killed more than 100 million people in the name
 of "the greater good". I am ashamed to lay witness to leaders of this party who
 act like that doesn't matter. This resolution was written in a style that leave
s it open for advocates of antithetical economic values to participate, as long
as they push for a voluntary model. The "lawful" part many of you are upset abou
t is an appeal to natural law- the law that governs our rights. Those same right
s that exist in the state of  nature, prior to, and in the complete absence of a
 state. What it did not do is give those who wish to twist our principles into v
iolence against property and business owners even a single inch of wiggle room t
o operate inside of our party, or our on platform. It was solid, and worded exac
tly how it needed to be. Many of you ask "Why are we giving credence to 6 people
 in the party who are whackos"? It's because it's not just 6 of them. I have per
sonally been in the trenches of this battle for the heart and soul of this party
 for a year. They are recruiting. They are telling media and the public that we
support violence, the abolition of property and capital, and terrible policy poi
nts like "Medicare for all". One of them did this on RT; many of them are doing
it through candidate statements. They are not only driving good members and volu
nteers to leave, but they are destroying our outreach. This resolution demonstra
tes to the outer circle of this party, and the thousands and thousands of small
l libertarians that we care about principle, that we will not be bullied. Standi
ng up to tyranny is what Harry Browne did. It's what David Nolan, and John Hospe
rs, Ed Crane, Tonie Nathan, and Murray Rothbard did. These great men and women w
ho took up swords and said no more. Where is the fight in you? Have that many of
 you really lost your way? Are you really scared to reaffirm our stance on prope
rty in a way that secures our party and principles from tyranny? We are always c
rying about people not doing enough, and we can't even come together on somethin
g as simple as strengthening our principles? What manner of example do you want
to set? I unequivocally vote yes on this resolution. We have until Wednesday nig
ht to show the party that we wont be bullied, or cater to communists and sociali
sts. There is still time to prove that you have the intestinal fortitude to say
"enough". I hope you will make the right decision in the eyes of our candidates,
 local and state leaders, and hard-working volunteers across the country who des
erve a national leadership team that will undoubtedly stand on our principles, a
lways and without hesitation. Thank you, Joshua D. Smith LNC At LargeJoshua.Smit
h at LP.ORG (mailto:Joshua.Smith at LP.ORG) References 1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.or
g (mailto::lnc-business at hq.lp.org)
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