[Lnc-business] Get to the facts on the Koerner thing

[Elizabeth Van Horn]

You did a rant.  You also said we were, and I'll quote:  "rude as AF". 
Perhaps you should examine your own behavior on this list, which
certainly qualifies. 

Also, NO, we're not collectively responsible for the words of
individuals.  I rewatched, not once, but twice the segment of video
where we discuss the Koerner issue, and most of the LNC didn't speak,
and there were perhaps two people who said some disagreeable things.  To
try and paint the entire LNC as acting in bad faith, or being "rude AF",
is  wrong, it's you being rude to the rest of us. 

As for your attempt to dismiss my concerns, with your, "This is the one
and only time I will address such dismissal."....oh, pot just stop
calling the kettle black. 

---
Elizabeth Van Horn

On 2018-12-24 22:12, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:

> We are a body and are corporately responsible and it's our collective image. 
> 
> I don't much appreciate you calling my very legitimate concerns and the very real damage it caused us a rant. 
> 
> This is the one and only time I will address such dismissal. 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 1:47 PM Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote: 
> 
>> Caryn Ann, instead of going off on a rant on this email list, perhaps 
>> you could address *individually*, the people you think did wrong?
>> 
>> As I was there, and the entire LNC didn't do these things.  I don't much 
>> appreciate you implying that the LNC, which means all of us, were rude, 
>> called anyone a liar, etc.
>> 
>> EVH
>> 
>> ---
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>> 
>> On 2018-12-24 12:40, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> I once again call for this to be included in the e-meeting.  NOT the
>>> proposal. The rude AF way we handled it.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 10:39 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> <[1]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am apoplectic.  We treated this man like absolute shit and he was
>>> called a liar in our meeting.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 8:09 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business
>>> <[2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That being the case, we absolutely need Nick to submit a 
>>> counter
>>> proposal crafted by our input. Nick, if you'd like, you can 
>>> share
>>> confidentially with the LNC first for input but we have indeed
>>> done Mr
>>> Koerner a disservice in light of this clarification from 
>>> Lauren.
>>> 
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> 
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   You did a rant.  You also said we were, and I'll quote:  "rude as AF".
   Perhaps you should examine your own behavior on this list, which
   certainly qualifies.
   Also, NO, we're not collectively responsible for the words of
   individuals.  I rewatched, not once, but twice the segment of video
   where we discuss the Koerner issue, and most of the LNC didn't speak,
   and there were perhaps two people who said some disagreeable things.
   To try and paint the entire LNC as acting in bad faith, or being "rude
   AF", is  wrong, it's you being rude to the rest of us.
   As for your attempt to dismiss my concerns, with your, "This is the one
   and only time I will address such dismissal."....oh, pot just stop
   calling the kettle black.

   ---
   Elizabeth Van Horn

   On 2018-12-24 22:12, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:

   We are a body and are corporately responsible and it's our collective
   image.



   I don't much appreciate you calling my very legitimate concerns and the
   very real damage it caused us a rant.



   This is the one and only time I will address such dismissal.





   On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 1:47 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
   <[1]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:

     Caryn Ann, instead of going off on a rant on this email list,
     perhaps
     you could address *individually*, the people you think did wrong?
     As I was there, and the entire LNC didn't do these things.  I don't
     much
     appreciate you implying that the LNC, which means all of us, were
     rude,
     called anyone a liar, etc.
     EVH
     ---
     Elizabeth Van Horn
     On 2018-12-24 12:40, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
     > I once again call for this to be included in the e-meeting.  NOT
     the
     >    proposal. The rude AF way we handled it.
     >
     >    On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 10:39 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
     >    <[1][2]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
     >
     >    I am apoplectic.  We treated this man like absolute shit and he
     was
     >    called a liar in our meeting.
     >
     >    On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 8:09 AM Richard Longstreth via
     Lnc-business
     >    <[2][3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
     >
     >         That being the case, we absolutely need Nick to submit a
     > counter
     >         proposal crafted by our input. Nick, if you'd like, you
     can
     > share
     >         confidentially with the LNC first for input but we have
     indeed
     >      done Mr
     >         Koerner a disservice in light of this clarification from
     > Lauren.
     >

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References

   1. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
   2. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
   3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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