[Lnc-business] BALLOT 190203-1 Immigration Resolution

[Sam Goldstein]

It has always been the case that an Alternate's vote only counts when 
the Member does not vote.  An express abstention is a vote therefore the 
Alternate's vote would not be counted.  I don't know why this is turning 
into a major issue.

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Sam Goldstein
Libertarian National Committee
317-850-0726 Cell

On 2019-02-11 17:39, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> If the Chair finds otherwise he can order the vote be taken again.
> 
> If the desire of the body is to retake I would co-sponsor a motion to
> rescind.
> 
> We cannot simply declare it failed and call that fair.  It’s not fair 
> to
> those who may have switched their vote or the chair who could have 
> voted.
> 
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:36 PM Caryn Ann Harlos 
> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> PS: my recollection may be mistaken on the Vohra vote- will need to 
>> dig
>> that out- but the example of an abstention after an alt vote is still 
>> valid
>> even if just as a hypothetical.
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:25 PM Jeff Lyons via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> John,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>      I appreciate your civility and universal basic respect.  I 
>>> apologize
>>> if this results in a defeat for your motion, which is not my pursuit, 
>>> and I
>>> would love to contribute ideas I have and work together on this 
>>> matter in
>>> the future.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>      Thanks for all you do for the Liberty of Others!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Very Respectfully,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jeff Lyons
>>> 
>>> 
>>> LNC8A
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 5:17 PM -0500, "John Phillips via 
>>> Lnc-business" <
>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> Agreed JBH. A clarification on procedure would  helpful for future
>>> reference
>>> Perhaps since Mr Odonnell confirms that was his intent we could allow 
>>> it
>>> this time and get informed of the correct way for next time.  In 
>>> spite of
>>> it causing the resolution I supported to fail , I'll maintain my 
>>> stance of
>>> not being a stickler for the rules in the interests of fairness, 
>>> working
>>> together, and not being a hypocrite.
>>> 
>>> John Phillips
>>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>> Cell 217-412-5973
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>> 
>> *  In Liberty,*
>> 
>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- 
>> Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
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> --
> 
> *  In Liberty,*
> 
> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- 
> Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> 
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> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize 
> All
> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income 
> Tax
> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency 
> Services
> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> Eliminate Regulation *
> 
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