[Lnc-business] Point of Inquiry - Article 7.6

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

The point of Order raised was regarding the how the policy manual changes
now affect that bylaw.

Are you making a ruling that this was always the policy but we’ve actually
ignored the bylaws for years and actively told alternates that it wasn’t
required they attend meetings?

That would be quite disturbing if that’s the case and I would want to know
why we flagrantly disregarded the bylaws.

In any event I would appeal sheerly in bylaws grounds.  “members” by RONR
definition have full voting rights.  Alternates do not.

I can articulate in more detail but IIRC Ms. Mattson already wrote
extensively on this in the past and I hope she can re-post.

-Caryn Ann

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 7:16 PM Nicholas Sarwark <chair at lp.org> wrote:

> I would note that I didn't discuss the policy manual at all.  My
> analysis is based on the bylaws entirely.
>
> Specifically, Article 7.2 defines "members," and regional alternates
> are "members" under that definition.
>
> The plain reading of Article 7.6 says there is an automatic vacancy if
> a "member" misses two consecutive regular meetings.
>
> You may have more luck appealing the ruling if you can explain what is
> incorrect of my reading of the bylaws.
>
> -Nick
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 4:19 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
> >
> > I would appeal that ruling of the Chair.  No policy manual change
> defined them as full members.
> >
> > Will three people please co-sponsor this?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 4:52 PM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> The relevant bylaws provision does appear to indicate that they have
> >> vacated their seats automatically, though the past practice of this
> >> board has not been to enforce that bylaws provision with regard to
> >> Regional Alternates.
> >>
> >> There is at least a facially conflicting provision of the bylaws,
> >> Article 7.8, "A National Committee Regional Representative or
> >> Alternate may be removed and replaced only by the act of the affiliate
> >> parties that constitute the subject region. The voting procedure for
> >> the removal and replacement of regional representatives or alternates
> >> shall be determined by the regions. In the absence of any such
> >> procedures, a majority vote of the state chairs comprising the region
> >> shall prevail."
> >>
> >> So we have 7.6 saying there is an automatic vacancy and 7.8 saying
> >> that removal and replacement can only be done by the region.
> >>
> >> The simplest thing to do if Mr. Anderson and Dr. Olsen are still
> >> willing and able to serve would be for their regions to indicate that
> >> they would like to reappoint them as alternates.
> >>
> >> -Nick
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 12:52 PM Jeff Lyons <jeff.lyons at lp.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Good afternoon,
> >> >
> >> >       Point of Inquiry, Mr. Chairman- Have Mr. Anderson and Mr. Olsen
> now
> >> > vacated their seats on the National Committee as a result of being
> >> > absent from 2 consecutive regular LNC Meetings?
> >> >
> >> > Reference- Bylaws Article 7.6: "A National Committee member who fails
> to
> >> > attend two consecutive regular sessions of the National Committee
> shall
> >> > be deemed to have vacated his or her seat. The appointing body shall
> be
> >> > free to reappoint the member who vacated the seat."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > In Liberty,
> >> > Jeff Lyons
> >> >
> >> > Region 8 Alternate
> >> > https://www.lp.org/wethepeople/?f=jly
> >> >
> >> > Libertarian Assoc. of MA
> >> > State Chair
> >> > http://www.lpmass.org/join
> >
> > --
> >
> >   In Liberty,
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*  In Liberty,*

*Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
*Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
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Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
* Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
Eliminate Regulation *

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