[Lnc-business] Point of Inquiry - Article 7.6

Tue Mar 12 22:00:08 EDT 2019

I will cosponsor the appeal but I want to be clear that my vote but is very
much not decided here. Bylaws are my passion and and so is policy. I need
to independently review each if enough cosponsors warrant a vote.

That said, I've said before that I will cosponsor anything anyone puts up
in email because I think all matters should be open to debate and
discussion and I will remain true to my statement.

Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
Libertarian National Committee
richard.longstreth at lp.org
931.538.9300

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On Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 18:23 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> The point of Order raised was regarding the how the policy manual changes
> now affect that bylaw.
>
> Are you making a ruling that this was always the policy but we’ve actually
> ignored the bylaws for years and actively told alternates that it wasn’t
> required they attend meetings?
>
> That would be quite disturbing if that’s the case and I would want to know
> why we flagrantly disregarded the bylaws.
>
> In any event I would appeal sheerly in bylaws grounds.  “members” by RONR
> definition have full voting rights.  Alternates do not.
>
> I can articulate in more detail but IIRC Ms. Mattson already wrote
> extensively on this in the past and I hope she can re-post.
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 7:16 PM Nicholas Sarwark <chair at lp.org> wrote:
>
> > I would note that I didn't discuss the policy manual at all.  My
> > analysis is based on the bylaws entirely.
> >
> > Specifically, Article 7.2 defines "members," and regional alternates
> > are "members" under that definition.
> >
> > The plain reading of Article 7.6 says there is an automatic vacancy if
> > a "member" misses two consecutive regular meetings.
> >
> > You may have more luck appealing the ruling if you can explain what is
> > incorrect of my reading of the bylaws.
> >
> > -Nick
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 4:19 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
> > <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > I would appeal that ruling of the Chair.  No policy manual change
> > defined them as full members.
> > >
> > > Will three people please co-sponsor this?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 4:52 PM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business <
> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> The relevant bylaws provision does appear to indicate that they have
> > >> vacated their seats automatically, though the past practice of this
> > >> board has not been to enforce that bylaws provision with regard to
> > >> Regional Alternates.
> > >>
> > >> There is at least a facially conflicting provision of the bylaws,
> > >> Article 7.8, "A National Committee Regional Representative or
> > >> Alternate may be removed and replaced only by the act of the affiliate
> > >> parties that constitute the subject region. The voting procedure for
> > >> the removal and replacement of regional representatives or alternates
> > >> shall be determined by the regions. In the absence of any such
> > >> procedures, a majority vote of the state chairs comprising the region
> > >> shall prevail."
> > >>
> > >> So we have 7.6 saying there is an automatic vacancy and 7.8 saying
> > >> that removal and replacement can only be done by the region.
> > >>
> > >> The simplest thing to do if Mr. Anderson and Dr. Olsen are still
> > >> willing and able to serve would be for their regions to indicate that
> > >> they would like to reappoint them as alternates.
> > >>
> > >> -Nick
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 12:52 PM Jeff Lyons <jeff.lyons at lp.org>
> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Good afternoon,
> > >> >
> > >> >       Point of Inquiry, Mr. Chairman- Have Mr. Anderson and Mr.
> Olsen
> > now
> > >> > vacated their seats on the National Committee as a result of being
> > >> > absent from 2 consecutive regular LNC Meetings?
> > >> >
> > >> > Reference- Bylaws Article 7.6: "A National Committee member who
> fails
> > to
> > >> > attend two consecutive regular sessions of the National Committee
> > shall
> > >> > be deemed to have vacated his or her seat. The appointing body shall
> > be
> > >> > free to reappoint the member who vacated the seat."
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > In Liberty,
> > >> > Jeff Lyons
> > >> >
> > >> > Region 8 Alternate
> > >> > https://www.lp.org/wethepeople/?f=jly
> > >> >
> > >> > Libertarian Assoc. of MA
> > >> > State Chair
> > >> > http://www.lpmass.org/join
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >   In Liberty,
> > >
> > > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
> > Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
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> *  In Liberty,*
>
> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
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> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
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