[Lnc-business] Point of Inquiry - Article 7.6

Tue Mar 12 22:02:04 EDT 2019

Sponsorship does not equal approval - so thank you.

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 8:00 PM Richard Longstreth <
richard.longstreth at lp.org> wrote:

> I will cosponsor the appeal but I want to be clear that my vote but is
> very much not decided here. Bylaws are my passion and and so is policy. I
> need to independently review each if enough cosponsors warrant a vote.
>
> That said, I've said before that I will cosponsor anything anyone puts up
> in email because I think all matters should be open to debate and
> discussion and I will remain true to my statement.
>
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
> Libertarian National Committee
> richard.longstreth at lp.org
> 931.538.9300
>
> Sent from my Mobile Device
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019, 18:23 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
>> The point of Order raised was regarding the how the policy manual changes
>> now affect that bylaw.
>>
>> Are you making a ruling that this was always the policy but we’ve actually
>> ignored the bylaws for years and actively told alternates that it wasn’t
>> required they attend meetings?
>>
>> That would be quite disturbing if that’s the case and I would want to know
>> why we flagrantly disregarded the bylaws.
>>
>> In any event I would appeal sheerly in bylaws grounds.  “members” by RONR
>> definition have full voting rights.  Alternates do not.
>>
>> I can articulate in more detail but IIRC Ms. Mattson already wrote
>> extensively on this in the past and I hope she can re-post.
>>
>> -Caryn Ann
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 7:16 PM Nicholas Sarwark <chair at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> > I would note that I didn't discuss the policy manual at all.  My
>> > analysis is based on the bylaws entirely.
>> >
>> > Specifically, Article 7.2 defines "members," and regional alternates
>> > are "members" under that definition.
>> >
>> > The plain reading of Article 7.6 says there is an automatic vacancy if
>> > a "member" misses two consecutive regular meetings.
>> >
>> > You may have more luck appealing the ruling if you can explain what is
>> > incorrect of my reading of the bylaws.
>> >
>> > -Nick
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 4:19 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>> > <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I would appeal that ruling of the Chair.  No policy manual change
>> > defined them as full members.
>> > >
>> > > Will three people please co-sponsor this?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 4:52 PM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business <
>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> The relevant bylaws provision does appear to indicate that they have
>> > >> vacated their seats automatically, though the past practice of this
>> > >> board has not been to enforce that bylaws provision with regard to
>> > >> Regional Alternates.
>> > >>
>> > >> There is at least a facially conflicting provision of the bylaws,
>> > >> Article 7.8, "A National Committee Regional Representative or
>> > >> Alternate may be removed and replaced only by the act of the
>> affiliate
>> > >> parties that constitute the subject region. The voting procedure for
>> > >> the removal and replacement of regional representatives or alternates
>> > >> shall be determined by the regions. In the absence of any such
>> > >> procedures, a majority vote of the state chairs comprising the region
>> > >> shall prevail."
>> > >>
>> > >> So we have 7.6 saying there is an automatic vacancy and 7.8 saying
>> > >> that removal and replacement can only be done by the region.
>> > >>
>> > >> The simplest thing to do if Mr. Anderson and Dr. Olsen are still
>> > >> willing and able to serve would be for their regions to indicate that
>> > >> they would like to reappoint them as alternates.
>> > >>
>> > >> -Nick
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 12:52 PM Jeff Lyons <jeff.lyons at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Good afternoon,
>> > >> >
>> > >> >       Point of Inquiry, Mr. Chairman- Have Mr. Anderson and Mr.
>> Olsen
>> > now
>> > >> > vacated their seats on the National Committee as a result of being
>> > >> > absent from 2 consecutive regular LNC Meetings?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Reference- Bylaws Article 7.6: "A National Committee member who
>> fails
>> > to
>> > >> > attend two consecutive regular sessions of the National Committee
>> > shall
>> > >> > be deemed to have vacated his or her seat. The appointing body
>> shall
>> > be
>> > >> > free to reappoint the member who vacated the seat."
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > In Liberty,
>> > >> > Jeff Lyons
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Region 8 Alternate
>> > >> > https://www.lp.org/wethepeople/?f=jly
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Libertarian Assoc. of MA
>> > >> > State Chair
>> > >> > http://www.lpmass.org/join
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > >
>> > >   In Liberty,
>> > >
>> > > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
>> > Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>> > > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>> > > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>> > facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>> > >
>> > >
>> =========================================================================
>> > > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
>> > All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
>> Laws *
>> > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
>> > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income
>> Tax
>> > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
>> Services
>> > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
>> > Eliminate Regulation *
>> > >
>> > > VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org
>> > >
>> =========================================================================
>> >
>> --
>>
>> *  In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>> Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>>
>> =========================================================================
>> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
>> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
>> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
>> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
>> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
>> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
>> Eliminate Regulation *
>>
>> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/
>> >*
>> =========================================================================
>>
> --

*  In Liberty,*

*Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
*Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/

=========================================================================
Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
* Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
Eliminate Regulation *

*VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>*
=========================================================================