[Lnc-business] Resolution Condemning Conversion Therapies

Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) alex.merced at lp.org
Fri Apr 12 20:12:24 EDT 2019


I will co-sponsor

Alex Merced
Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP

> On Apr 12, 2019, at 7:39 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> 
> Ahh but he is an alternate and cannot sponsor
> 
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 5:31 PM Richard Longstreth <
> richard.longstreth at lp.org> wrote:
> 
>> Time stamp 1037 today in this thread.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard Longstreth
>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>> Libertarian National Committee
>> richard.longstreth at lp.org
>> 931.538.9300
>> 
>> Sent from my Mobile Device
>> 
>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 14:22 Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I don’t see where he has agreed to my wording
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 3:14 PM Richard Longstreth <
>>> richard.longstreth at lp.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I believe Lyons as well.
>>>> 
>>>> Richard Longstreth
>>>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>> richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>>> 931.538.9300
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my Mobile Device
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 11:26 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I sponsor.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So we have me, Phillips, Longstreth
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mr Smith can you agree to this one?  Or Mr Merced?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m at the AR convention so might be a little slow
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 1:00 PM John Phillips <john.phillips at lp.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> *Mr Lyons.  Sorry Jeff, trying to go to fast.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John Phillips
>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>>>> Cell 217-412-5973
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2019 12:22 PM, John Phillips via Lnc-business <
>>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> She did, and she also helped Mr Lynch with his.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Absolutely.  Safe Travels.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here is Ms Harlos' tweaked alternate proposal.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party asserts that all individuals have the
>>>>>> right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives, and have the
>>>>> right to
>>>>>> live in whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly
>>>>>> interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner
>>>>> they
>>>>>> choose;
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> WHEREAS while children have not reached sufficient maturity to be the
>>>>> full
>>>>>> custodian of their rights which are entrusted to their parents or
>>>>>> guardians, their rights to bodily integrity and personal
>>>>> identification of
>>>>>> their growing awareness of who they are inalienable and coerced
>>>>> action that
>>>>>> would fundamentally deny these rights is abusive;
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> WHEREAS, parents, or other guardians, have the right to raise their
>>>>>> children according to their own standards and beliefs, provided that
>>>>> the
>>>>>> rights of children to be free from abuse and neglect are also
>>>>> protected;
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> WHEREAS, conversion therapy has been used in the past as a form of
>>>>>> punishment for homosexuality and gender identity which does not
>>>>> conform to
>>>>>> traditional expectations; and the rights to gender and sexual
>>>>> identity are
>>>>>> fundamental rights;
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> WHEREAS, this conversion therapy has it's roots in unethical treatment
>>>>>> used since the 70's in issues such as drug use, psychiatric
>>>>> disorders, and
>>>>>> learning disabilities, that describe humiliation, sleep deprivation,
>>>>> sexual
>>>>>> abuse, starvation, and isolation as "treatment techniques", methods
>>>>> that in
>>>>>> any other pursuit are considered cruel and unusual punishment and
>>>>> torture;
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> WHEREAS, children are often subjected to this type of therapy against
>>>>>> their will, even by loving and well-intentioned parents who are
>>>>> unaware
>>>>>> that the methods used in conversion therapy are extremely forceful and
>>>>>> abusive;
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> WHEREAS, any therapy similar to this has been shown to result in
>>>>> suicide
>>>>>> attempts by 20% of these patients: a five-fold increase in the risk of
>>>>>> suicide attempts compared to other teens, increases that are the same
>>>>> as
>>>>>> other victims of repeated abuse, an increased risk that continues
>>>>> through
>>>>>> later life;
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that therapy modeled off these abusive
>>>>>> institutions, protected and/or funded by the State, constitutes
>>>>> consumer
>>>>>> fraud and forceful abuse, which the Libertarian Party opposes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> FURTHER, BE IT RESOLVED, the Libertarian Party opposes subjecting
>>>>>> unwilling participants through force or coercion, especially
>>>>> children, to
>>>>>> any therapy that violates the non-aggression principle through any
>>>>> method
>>>>>> that would be considered abuse or torture."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John Phillips
>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>>>> Cell 217-412-5973
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2019 12:01 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ms Lynch approved enthusiastically of the one I proposed.  Mr.
>>>>> Phillips,
>>>>>> I’m in a plane right to - can you post mine for consideration.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:45 AM Jeff Lyons via Lnc-business <
>>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd be open to broadening the scope to include things that Ms. Lynch,
>>>>> whom
>>>>>> is an expert, wished to be included but I also want a resolution that
>>>>> is
>>>>>> specific and impactful in creating conversations with young rebellious
>>>>>> future Libertarian voters.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks again John.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Jeff
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:21 PM -0400, "John Phillips" <
>>>>>> john.phillips at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would support and co-sponsor EITHER resolution. The one Mr Lyons
>>>>> and I
>>>>>> worked on, or the one Ms Harlos authored and I tweaked just a bit.
>>>>> Both
>>>>>> are good, both address the needs in different ways, with different
>>>>> pros and
>>>>>> cons.
>>>>>> The short answer is that this type of "therapy" is absolutely
>>>>> negative and
>>>>>> torturous to those forced into it.  We should 100% be against both
>>>>> torture
>>>>>> and force, and are, so lets find a way to make this work.
>>>>>> Perhaps Ms Harlos would share hers here for more discussion?
>>>>>> I do not find the two mutually exclusive, and think even a combination
>>>>>> would work, tho perhaps be overly long.
>>>>>> I know Ms Lynch has helped with both, and her input is more than
>>>>> welcome.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John Phillips
>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>>>> Cell 217-412-5973
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> *  In Liberty,*
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>>>>> Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>>>>>> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>> 
>>>>> *  In Liberty,*
>>>>> 
>>>>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>>>>> Caryn.Ann.
>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
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>>> 
>>> *  In Liberty,*
>>> 
>>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>>> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>>> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
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>>> All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
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>>> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
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> 
> *  In Liberty,*
> 
> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
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> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
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> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> Eliminate Regulation *
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