[Lnc-business] Resolution Condemning Conversion Therapies
Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair)
alex.merced at lp.org
Fri Apr 12 20:12:24 EDT 2019
I will co-sponsor
Alex Merced
Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
> On Apr 12, 2019, at 7:39 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> Ahh but he is an alternate and cannot sponsor
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 5:31 PM Richard Longstreth <
> richard.longstreth at lp.org> wrote:
>
>> Time stamp 1037 today in this thread.
>>
>>
>> Richard Longstreth
>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>> Libertarian National Committee
>> richard.longstreth at lp.org
>> 931.538.9300
>>
>> Sent from my Mobile Device
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 14:22 Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don’t see where he has agreed to my wording
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 3:14 PM Richard Longstreth <
>>> richard.longstreth at lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I believe Lyons as well.
>>>>
>>>> Richard Longstreth
>>>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>> richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>>> 931.538.9300
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my Mobile Device
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 11:26 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I sponsor.
>>>>>
>>>>> So we have me, Phillips, Longstreth
>>>>>
>>>>> Mr Smith can you agree to this one? Or Mr Merced?
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m at the AR convention so might be a little slow
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 1:00 PM John Phillips <john.phillips at lp.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> *Mr Lyons. Sorry Jeff, trying to go to fast.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Phillips
>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>>>> Cell 217-412-5973
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2019 12:22 PM, John Phillips via Lnc-business <
>>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She did, and she also helped Mr Lynch with his.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Absolutely. Safe Travels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is Ms Harlos' tweaked alternate proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party asserts that all individuals have the
>>>>>> right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives, and have the
>>>>> right to
>>>>>> live in whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly
>>>>>> interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner
>>>>> they
>>>>>> choose;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WHEREAS while children have not reached sufficient maturity to be the
>>>>> full
>>>>>> custodian of their rights which are entrusted to their parents or
>>>>>> guardians, their rights to bodily integrity and personal
>>>>> identification of
>>>>>> their growing awareness of who they are inalienable and coerced
>>>>> action that
>>>>>> would fundamentally deny these rights is abusive;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WHEREAS, parents, or other guardians, have the right to raise their
>>>>>> children according to their own standards and beliefs, provided that
>>>>> the
>>>>>> rights of children to be free from abuse and neglect are also
>>>>> protected;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WHEREAS, conversion therapy has been used in the past as a form of
>>>>>> punishment for homosexuality and gender identity which does not
>>>>> conform to
>>>>>> traditional expectations; and the rights to gender and sexual
>>>>> identity are
>>>>>> fundamental rights;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WHEREAS, this conversion therapy has it's roots in unethical treatment
>>>>>> used since the 70's in issues such as drug use, psychiatric
>>>>> disorders, and
>>>>>> learning disabilities, that describe humiliation, sleep deprivation,
>>>>> sexual
>>>>>> abuse, starvation, and isolation as "treatment techniques", methods
>>>>> that in
>>>>>> any other pursuit are considered cruel and unusual punishment and
>>>>> torture;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WHEREAS, children are often subjected to this type of therapy against
>>>>>> their will, even by loving and well-intentioned parents who are
>>>>> unaware
>>>>>> that the methods used in conversion therapy are extremely forceful and
>>>>>> abusive;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WHEREAS, any therapy similar to this has been shown to result in
>>>>> suicide
>>>>>> attempts by 20% of these patients: a five-fold increase in the risk of
>>>>>> suicide attempts compared to other teens, increases that are the same
>>>>> as
>>>>>> other victims of repeated abuse, an increased risk that continues
>>>>> through
>>>>>> later life;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that therapy modeled off these abusive
>>>>>> institutions, protected and/or funded by the State, constitutes
>>>>> consumer
>>>>>> fraud and forceful abuse, which the Libertarian Party opposes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FURTHER, BE IT RESOLVED, the Libertarian Party opposes subjecting
>>>>>> unwilling participants through force or coercion, especially
>>>>> children, to
>>>>>> any therapy that violates the non-aggression principle through any
>>>>> method
>>>>>> that would be considered abuse or torture."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Phillips
>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>>>> Cell 217-412-5973
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2019 12:01 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ms Lynch approved enthusiastically of the one I proposed. Mr.
>>>>> Phillips,
>>>>>> I’m in a plane right to - can you post mine for consideration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:45 AM Jeff Lyons via Lnc-business <
>>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd be open to broadening the scope to include things that Ms. Lynch,
>>>>> whom
>>>>>> is an expert, wished to be included but I also want a resolution that
>>>>> is
>>>>>> specific and impactful in creating conversations with young rebellious
>>>>>> future Libertarian voters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks again John.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:21 PM -0400, "John Phillips" <
>>>>>> john.phillips at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would support and co-sponsor EITHER resolution. The one Mr Lyons
>>>>> and I
>>>>>> worked on, or the one Ms Harlos authored and I tweaked just a bit.
>>>>> Both
>>>>>> are good, both address the needs in different ways, with different
>>>>> pros and
>>>>>> cons.
>>>>>> The short answer is that this type of "therapy" is absolutely
>>>>> negative and
>>>>>> torturous to those forced into it. We should 100% be against both
>>>>> torture
>>>>>> and force, and are, so lets find a way to make this work.
>>>>>> Perhaps Ms Harlos would share hers here for more discussion?
>>>>>> I do not find the two mutually exclusive, and think even a combination
>>>>>> would work, tho perhaps be overly long.
>>>>>> I know Ms Lynch has helped with both, and her input is more than
>>>>> welcome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Phillips
>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>>>> Cell 217-412-5973
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> * In Liberty,*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>>>>> Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>>>>>> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>>>>>> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> --
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>>>>> * In Liberty,*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>>>>> Caryn.Ann.
>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
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>>> * In Liberty,*
>>>
>>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
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> * In Liberty,*
>
> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
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> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
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