[Lnc-business] Resolution Condemning Conversion Therapies

Fri Apr 12 19:39:34 EDT 2019

Ahh but he is an alternate and cannot sponsor

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 5:31 PM Richard Longstreth <
richard.longstreth at lp.org> wrote:

> Time stamp 1037 today in this thread.
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>
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
> Libertarian National Committee
> richard.longstreth at lp.org
> 931.538.9300
>
> Sent from my Mobile Device
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> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 14:22 Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I don’t see where he has agreed to my wording
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 3:14 PM Richard Longstreth <
>> richard.longstreth at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe Lyons as well.
>>>
>>> Richard Longstreth
>>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>> richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>> 931.538.9300
>>>
>>> Sent from my Mobile Device
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 11:26 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I sponsor.
>>>>
>>>> So we have me, Phillips, Longstreth
>>>>
>>>> Mr Smith can you agree to this one?  Or Mr Merced?
>>>>
>>>> I’m at the AR convention so might be a little slow
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 1:00 PM John Phillips <john.phillips at lp.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > *Mr Lyons.  Sorry Jeff, trying to go to fast.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > John Phillips
>>>> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>> > Cell 217-412-5973
>>>> >
>>>> > On Apr 12, 2019 12:22 PM, John Phillips via Lnc-business <
>>>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > She did, and she also helped Mr Lynch with his.
>>>> >
>>>> > Absolutely.  Safe Travels.
>>>> >
>>>> > Here is Ms Harlos' tweaked alternate proposal.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > "WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party asserts that all individuals have the
>>>> > right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives, and have the
>>>> right to
>>>> > live in whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly
>>>> > interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner
>>>> they
>>>> > choose;
>>>> >
>>>> > WHEREAS while children have not reached sufficient maturity to be the
>>>> full
>>>> > custodian of their rights which are entrusted to their parents or
>>>> > guardians, their rights to bodily integrity and personal
>>>> identification of
>>>> > their growing awareness of who they are inalienable and coerced
>>>> action that
>>>> > would fundamentally deny these rights is abusive;
>>>> >
>>>> > WHEREAS, parents, or other guardians, have the right to raise their
>>>> > children according to their own standards and beliefs, provided that
>>>> the
>>>> > rights of children to be free from abuse and neglect are also
>>>> protected;
>>>> >
>>>> > WHEREAS, conversion therapy has been used in the past as a form of
>>>> > punishment for homosexuality and gender identity which does not
>>>> conform to
>>>> > traditional expectations; and the rights to gender and sexual
>>>> identity are
>>>> > fundamental rights;
>>>> >
>>>> > WHEREAS, this conversion therapy has it's roots in unethical treatment
>>>> > used since the 70's in issues such as drug use, psychiatric
>>>> disorders, and
>>>> > learning disabilities, that describe humiliation, sleep deprivation,
>>>> sexual
>>>> > abuse, starvation, and isolation as "treatment techniques", methods
>>>> that in
>>>> > any other pursuit are considered cruel and unusual punishment and
>>>> torture;
>>>> >
>>>> > WHEREAS, children are often subjected to this type of therapy against
>>>> > their will, even by loving and well-intentioned parents who are
>>>> unaware
>>>> > that the methods used in conversion therapy are extremely forceful and
>>>> > abusive;
>>>> >
>>>> > WHEREAS, any therapy similar to this has been shown to result in
>>>> suicide
>>>> > attempts by 20% of these patients: a five-fold increase in the risk of
>>>> > suicide attempts compared to other teens, increases that are the same
>>>> as
>>>> > other victims of repeated abuse, an increased risk that continues
>>>> through
>>>> > later life;
>>>> >
>>>> > THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that therapy modeled off these abusive
>>>> > institutions, protected and/or funded by the State, constitutes
>>>> consumer
>>>> > fraud and forceful abuse, which the Libertarian Party opposes.
>>>> >
>>>> > FURTHER, BE IT RESOLVED, the Libertarian Party opposes subjecting
>>>> > unwilling participants through force or coercion, especially
>>>> children, to
>>>> > any therapy that violates the non-aggression principle through any
>>>> method
>>>> > that would be considered abuse or torture."
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > John Phillips
>>>> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>> > Cell 217-412-5973
>>>> >
>>>> > On Apr 12, 2019 12:01 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Ms Lynch approved enthusiastically of the one I proposed.  Mr.
>>>> Phillips,
>>>> > I’m in a plane right to - can you post mine for consideration.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:45 AM Jeff Lyons via Lnc-business <
>>>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I'd be open to broadening the scope to include things that Ms. Lynch,
>>>> whom
>>>> > is an expert, wished to be included but I also want a resolution that
>>>> is
>>>> > specific and impactful in creating conversations with young rebellious
>>>> > future Libertarian voters.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks again John.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > -Jeff
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Get Outlook for Android
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:21 PM -0400, "John Phillips" <
>>>> > john.phillips at lp.org> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > I would support and co-sponsor EITHER resolution. The one Mr Lyons
>>>> and I
>>>> > worked on, or the one Ms Harlos authored and I tweaked just a bit.
>>>> Both
>>>> > are good, both address the needs in different ways, with different
>>>> pros and
>>>> > cons.
>>>> > The short answer is that this type of "therapy" is absolutely
>>>> negative and
>>>> > torturous to those forced into it.  We should 100% be against both
>>>> torture
>>>> > and force, and are, so lets find a way to make this work.
>>>> > Perhaps Ms Harlos would share hers here for more discussion?
>>>> > I do not find the two mutually exclusive, and think even a combination
>>>> > would work, tho perhaps be overly long.
>>>> > I know Ms Lynch has helped with both, and her input is more than
>>>> welcome.
>>>> >
>>>> > John Phillips
>>>> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>> > Cell 217-412-5973
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> >
>>>>
>>> > *  In Liberty,*
>>>> >
>>>> > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>>>> Caryn.Ann.
>>>> > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>> > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>>>> > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
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>>>> >
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>>>> *  In Liberty,*
>>>>
>>>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>>>> Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>>>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
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>> *  In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
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>> All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
>> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
>> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
>> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
>> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
>> Eliminate Regulation *
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*  In Liberty,*

*Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
*Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/

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Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
* Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
Eliminate Regulation *

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