[Lnc-business] DRAFT MINUTES MARCH 9-10 VERSION 2

Mon Jun 10 04:46:52 EDT 2019

Gracias, it was not in the email ballot thread thus I did not locate it.

On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 2:01 AM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Here is the link to Mr. Phillips' posted vote for the MSC:
>
> http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/2019/016596.html
>
> Click the links there to see the text of his message and the attached
> screenshot, which I've attached for quick reference.
>
> -Alicia
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 11:27 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Ms. Mattson, I have completed the portion you noted above, but you had
> > indicated there was another email forthcoming.  Can you please advise?
> > Also I note that Mr. Philips did not post a ballot as you noted for the
> > MSC, only for the CVPC, which was correctly noted.  If you prefer I post
> > the current V3 before you next email, just let me know.
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 1:34 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Thank you, I’ll take a look.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 1:02 AM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
> >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Below are most of my comments regarding version 2 of the March 9-10 LNC
> >>> minutes.  One separate message will follow, probably later today, but
> on
> >>> a
> >>> different thread.
> >>>
> >>> p. 19, header “POLICY MANUAL AMENDMENT: ELECTRONIC EMAIL BALLOTS” has a
> >>> “19-“ inserted at the beginning of it.  Perhaps that’s an unintentional
> >>> typo, since other headings don’t have numerical prefixes?
> >>>
> >>> p. 27, on this page your numbering sequence for the main motions is
> off.
> >>> These were on 03/10, but they are numbered as 190309-x, which
> duplicates
> >>> the numbers of motions adopted the prior day.  You have corrected this
> on
> >>> some other pages, but missed these two.
> >>>
> >>> p. 27, did you intend to retain footnote 21 after repositioning the
> >>> Redpath
> >>> motion from p. 26 to its new home on p. 27?
> >>>
> >>> Appendix AA - p. 191, in several rows the table the votes do not line
> up
> >>> with the candidates, but are half-way between two candidates, making it
> >>> very hard to read
> >>>
> >>> Appendix AA – p. 191, typo in “Secretary’s notes” section:  “with five
> >>> notes” rather than “with five votes” – occurs in two places on that
> page,
> >>> repeated in table footer on other pages as well
> >>>
> >>> Appendix AA – p. 191 & 193, Most rows have the vote centered in the
> cell.
> >>> However, a few rows at the end have the votes and the totals
> >>> left-justified.
> >>>
> >>> Appendix BB - p. 192, three rows with Alex Merced, Jennifer Moore, and
> >>> Kevin Moore, their names are all wrapped within the same cell and not
> >>> aligned with their votes.
> >>>
> >>> Appendix BB – p. 194 & 196 & 198, Francisco Olvera and James Olivi are
> >>> not
> >>> in alphabetical order
> >>>
> >>> Appendix BB - p. 195, in “anomalies” in the table footer, uses
> “effected”
> >>> rather than “affected”, recurs in same table footer on p. 197
> >>>
> >>> Appendix BB – p. 195 & 197, Most rows have the vote centered in the
> cell.
> >>> However, a few rows at the end have the votes and the totals
> >>> left-justified
> >>> in a smaller font size.
> >>>
> >>> Appendix BB – p. 199, The vote totals stop after Thomas Soules.  The
> >>> totals
> >>> are not listed for the following candidates:  Kristopher Thomas, David
> >>> Valente, Kevin Warmhold, NOTA, Sam Goldstein (write-in)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ALL REMAINING COMMENTS BELOW PERTAIN TO APPENDIX F – SECRETARY’S REPORT
> >>>
> >>> On the v1 draft of the minutes, my comment on Appendix F was, “The
> >>> secretary’s report included here seems to be version 1, which doesn’t
> yet
> >>> incorporate the changes we already saw in version 2, but the minutes
> >>> elsewhere indicate there is another version 3 in existence.”  Now in v2
> >>> of
> >>> the minutes, the Appendix F footer says the secretary's report is v3,
> but
> >>> the body of the secretary's report still retains all the errors I noted
> >>> in
> >>> version 1 of the report, though the appendix has addressed some of my
> >>> comments from version 2 of your report.  It’s a mix of different
> >>> versions.
> >>>
> >>> For the results of email ballots 190214-1 and 190214-2, I recommend you
> >>> add
> >>> a note to refer to the appendix of your report with the details of the
> >>> roll
> >>> call votes.   Otherwise they may not notice that those details are
> >>> available.
> >>>
> >>> On the MSC OpaVote result tables, you have added a column for John
> >>> Phillips
> >>> but have not included his votes there.  The table footer incorrectly
> >>> lists
> >>> him as a person who did not post his ballot to the email list, but he
> did
> >>> post it to our email list.  The data just needs to be inserted and the
> >>> footer corrected.
> >>>
> >>> On version 2 of the secretary’s report, I noted that the CVPC table in
> >>> Appendix B says I ranked Michael Nelson #20, but I actually ranked him
> as
> >>> #10.  This has not yet been remedied.
> >>>
> >>> On version 2 of the secretary’s report, I noted that the CVPC table in
> >>> Appendix B shows that Mr. Smith’s ballot ranked two candidates (Lazerow
> >>> and
> >>> Robinson) both as #9.  Robinson should be #8, and Lazerow should be #9.
> >>> This has not yet been remedied.
> >>>
> >>> On version 2 of the secretary’s report, I noted that from RONR p. 427,
> in
> >>> preferential voting, “The tellers' report consists of a table listing
> all
> >>> candidates or propositions, with the number of ballots that were in
> each
> >>> pile after each successive distribution.”  Data from tellers’ reports
> are
> >>> entered in the minutes.  The appendices to the secretary’s report only
> >>> show
> >>> the final listing of people declared elected, but not the vote
> >>> allocations
> >>> for each round in the process.
> >>>
> >>> On version 2 of the secretary’s report, I noted that because the
> appended
> >>> tables show the votes that Lark and Smith posted to the list but that
> did
> >>> not appear in OpaVote, if a future reader is attempting to duplicate
> the
> >>> OpaVote tally, they'll have trouble.  You did put a note into the
> footer
> >>> that mentions that their votes were not posted to the software, but I
> >>> think
> >>> it should state more clearly that the OpaVote results listed in the
> >>> footer
> >>> did not factor in those two ballots that are shown in the table.
> >>>
> >>> In both appendices A and B of the secretary’s report, most of the vote
> >>> formatting centers the vote in the table’s cell.  Some rows, however,
> the
> >>> vote is a smaller font and is oriented in the top left where it’s much
> >>> harder to read without zooming way in.  Consistent formatting would be
> >>> easier for the reader.
> >>>
> >>> -Alicia
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 1:04 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> >>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Attached please find V2 of the minutes incorporating all of the input
> >>> > received.
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> >
> >>> > *  In Liberty,*
> >>> >
> >>> > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> >>> > Caryn.Ann.
> >>> > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> >>> > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> >>> > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
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> >>> >
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> >> --
> >>
> >> *  In Liberty,*
> >>
> >> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> Caryn.Ann.
> >> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> >> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> >> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> >> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> >>
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> >> All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
> Laws *
> >> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
> >> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income
> Tax
> >> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
> Services
> >> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
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> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > *  In Liberty,*
> >
> > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> Caryn.Ann.
> > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> > facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> >
> > =========================================================================
> > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
> All
> > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
> > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
> > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income
> Tax
> > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
> Services
> > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> > Eliminate Regulation *
> >
> > *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <
> http://www.lp.org/>*
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> >
>

-- 

*  In Liberty,*

*Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
*Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/

=========================================================================
Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
* Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
Eliminate Regulation *

*VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>*
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