[Lnc-business] DRAFT MINUTES MARCH 9-10 VERSION 2

Mon Jun 10 04:01:10 EDT 2019

Here is the link to Mr. Phillips' posted vote for the MSC:

http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/2019/016596.html

Click the links there to see the text of his message and the attached
screenshot, which I've attached for quick reference.

-Alicia

On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 11:27 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:

> Ms. Mattson, I have completed the portion you noted above, but you had
> indicated there was another email forthcoming.  Can you please advise?
> Also I note that Mr. Philips did not post a ballot as you noted for the
> MSC, only for the CVPC, which was correctly noted.  If you prefer I post
> the current V3 before you next email, just let me know.
>
> On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 1:34 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you, I’ll take a look.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 1:02 AM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Below are most of my comments regarding version 2 of the March 9-10 LNC
>>> minutes.  One separate message will follow, probably later today, but on
>>> a
>>> different thread.
>>>
>>> p. 19, header “POLICY MANUAL AMENDMENT: ELECTRONIC EMAIL BALLOTS” has a
>>> “19-“ inserted at the beginning of it.  Perhaps that’s an unintentional
>>> typo, since other headings don’t have numerical prefixes?
>>>
>>> p. 27, on this page your numbering sequence for the main motions is off.
>>> These were on 03/10, but they are numbered as 190309-x, which duplicates
>>> the numbers of motions adopted the prior day.  You have corrected this on
>>> some other pages, but missed these two.
>>>
>>> p. 27, did you intend to retain footnote 21 after repositioning the
>>> Redpath
>>> motion from p. 26 to its new home on p. 27?
>>>
>>> Appendix AA - p. 191, in several rows the table the votes do not line up
>>> with the candidates, but are half-way between two candidates, making it
>>> very hard to read
>>>
>>> Appendix AA – p. 191, typo in “Secretary’s notes” section:  “with five
>>> notes” rather than “with five votes” – occurs in two places on that page,
>>> repeated in table footer on other pages as well
>>>
>>> Appendix AA – p. 191 & 193, Most rows have the vote centered in the cell.
>>> However, a few rows at the end have the votes and the totals
>>> left-justified.
>>>
>>> Appendix BB - p. 192, three rows with Alex Merced, Jennifer Moore, and
>>> Kevin Moore, their names are all wrapped within the same cell and not
>>> aligned with their votes.
>>>
>>> Appendix BB – p. 194 & 196 & 198, Francisco Olvera and James Olivi are
>>> not
>>> in alphabetical order
>>>
>>> Appendix BB - p. 195, in “anomalies” in the table footer, uses “effected”
>>> rather than “affected”, recurs in same table footer on p. 197
>>>
>>> Appendix BB – p. 195 & 197, Most rows have the vote centered in the cell.
>>> However, a few rows at the end have the votes and the totals
>>> left-justified
>>> in a smaller font size.
>>>
>>> Appendix BB – p. 199, The vote totals stop after Thomas Soules.  The
>>> totals
>>> are not listed for the following candidates:  Kristopher Thomas, David
>>> Valente, Kevin Warmhold, NOTA, Sam Goldstein (write-in)
>>>
>>>
>>> ALL REMAINING COMMENTS BELOW PERTAIN TO APPENDIX F – SECRETARY’S REPORT
>>>
>>> On the v1 draft of the minutes, my comment on Appendix F was, “The
>>> secretary’s report included here seems to be version 1, which doesn’t yet
>>> incorporate the changes we already saw in version 2, but the minutes
>>> elsewhere indicate there is another version 3 in existence.”  Now in v2
>>> of
>>> the minutes, the Appendix F footer says the secretary's report is v3, but
>>> the body of the secretary's report still retains all the errors I noted
>>> in
>>> version 1 of the report, though the appendix has addressed some of my
>>> comments from version 2 of your report.  It’s a mix of different
>>> versions.
>>>
>>> For the results of email ballots 190214-1 and 190214-2, I recommend you
>>> add
>>> a note to refer to the appendix of your report with the details of the
>>> roll
>>> call votes.   Otherwise they may not notice that those details are
>>> available.
>>>
>>> On the MSC OpaVote result tables, you have added a column for John
>>> Phillips
>>> but have not included his votes there.  The table footer incorrectly
>>> lists
>>> him as a person who did not post his ballot to the email list, but he did
>>> post it to our email list.  The data just needs to be inserted and the
>>> footer corrected.
>>>
>>> On version 2 of the secretary’s report, I noted that the CVPC table in
>>> Appendix B says I ranked Michael Nelson #20, but I actually ranked him as
>>> #10.  This has not yet been remedied.
>>>
>>> On version 2 of the secretary’s report, I noted that the CVPC table in
>>> Appendix B shows that Mr. Smith’s ballot ranked two candidates (Lazerow
>>> and
>>> Robinson) both as #9.  Robinson should be #8, and Lazerow should be #9.
>>> This has not yet been remedied.
>>>
>>> On version 2 of the secretary’s report, I noted that from RONR p. 427, in
>>> preferential voting, “The tellers' report consists of a table listing all
>>> candidates or propositions, with the number of ballots that were in each
>>> pile after each successive distribution.”  Data from tellers’ reports are
>>> entered in the minutes.  The appendices to the secretary’s report only
>>> show
>>> the final listing of people declared elected, but not the vote
>>> allocations
>>> for each round in the process.
>>>
>>> On version 2 of the secretary’s report, I noted that because the appended
>>> tables show the votes that Lark and Smith posted to the list but that did
>>> not appear in OpaVote, if a future reader is attempting to duplicate the
>>> OpaVote tally, they'll have trouble.  You did put a note into the footer
>>> that mentions that their votes were not posted to the software, but I
>>> think
>>> it should state more clearly that the OpaVote results listed in the
>>> footer
>>> did not factor in those two ballots that are shown in the table.
>>>
>>> In both appendices A and B of the secretary’s report, most of the vote
>>> formatting centers the vote in the table’s cell.  Some rows, however, the
>>> vote is a smaller font and is oriented in the top left where it’s much
>>> harder to read without zooming way in.  Consistent formatting would be
>>> easier for the reader.
>>>
>>> -Alicia
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 1:04 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Attached please find V2 of the minutes incorporating all of the input
>>> > received.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> > *  In Liberty,*
>>> >
>>> > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>>> > Caryn.Ann.
>>> > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>>> > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>>> > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>>> > facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>>> >
>>> >
>>> =========================================================================
>>> > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
>>> All
>>> > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
>>> > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
>>> > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income
>>> Tax
>>> > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
>>> Services
>>> > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
>>> > Eliminate Regulation *
>>> >
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>>> =========================================================================
>>> >
>>>
>> --
>>
>> *  In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>>
>> =========================================================================
>> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
>> All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
>> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
>> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
>> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
>> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
>> Eliminate Regulation *
>>
>> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org
>> <http://www.lp.org/>*
>> =========================================================================
>>
>
>
> --
>
> *  In Liberty,*
>
> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>
> =========================================================================
> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> Eliminate Regulation *
>
> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>*
> =========================================================================
>
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