[Lnc-business] BALLOT 190628-1: DIRECTIVE REGARDING SOCIAL MEDIA POST AND WEB PAGE

Sat Jun 29 14:42:01 EDT 2019

Elizabeth, I forgot.  A lot going on in my personal life right now.  Please
forgive me.

I never intentionally misaddress (or misgender) anyone.

On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 12:38 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:

> IOW, maybe one of them did.
>
> Can’t tell you.
>
> On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 12:37 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Ms. Mattson, I wish I could tell you.  There was but it was on APRC.
>> Draw your own conclusions on why I started this request for sponsors as to
>> how that discussion went - or at least part of it. I want to give details
>> because without them I fear the wrong conclusion will be drawn - but the
>> ridiculous secrecy means I can’t.
>>
>> I think when it comes to things like this the secrecy hampers the ability
>> of the LNC.
>>
>> All I can see is that if BOTH the Chair and the ED agreed there was a
>> need to change I would be fine.  They BOTH didn’t.
>>
>> That is all I can say.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 5:46 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Was there a conversation with the Chair and ED before just initiating an
>>> email ballot?  If so, could someone fill us in on how that went?
>>>
>>> -Alicia
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 3:31 PM Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via
>>> Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I agree with Sam and Justin and Vote No
>>> >
>>> > I agree regarding the problems with the tweet, and agree LNC serve
>>> members
>>> > but doesn’t mean every action as LNC members must be an official
>>> action.
>>> >
>>> > By bringing this up the LNC and staff this can easily be deleted and
>>> > addressed. If there was push back against deleting the tweet or
>>> amending
>>> > the website then I’d see the possible desire for a vote.
>>> >
>>> > Although more than likely this can be fixed and addressed by mere
>>> informal
>>> > discussion (which is happening) and be done before this vote even
>>> expires.
>>> >
>>> > Alex Merced
>>> > Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
>>> >
>>> > > On Jun 28, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Ms. Van Horn, member attraction is a sinking ship without member
>>> > > retention.  People do not stay where they think everything is up to
>>> the
>>> > top
>>> > > and they have no voice.
>>> > >
>>> > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 2:08 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>> > carynannharlos at gmail.com>
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> If that scenario were true, we would have been intervening a million
>>> > times
>>> > >> already.  The Policy Manual provides for LNC intervention for a
>>> reason.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 1:32 PM Elizabeth Van Horn <
>>> > >> elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>> On this motion: I vote No.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> ------------------------------
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> I wasn't aware of the tweet, until an LP member brought it to my
>>> > >>> attention on Wednesday. I agree the tweet is bad optics.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> I'd recommend that we consult with our ED, and work together to
>>> > >>> understand how best to avoid this type of situation in the future.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Trying to delete the tweet after the fact, could reignite the
>>> > >>> controversy.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> This brings us to the real issue, that those who're upset, are
>>> mostly
>>> > LP
>>> > >>> members and supporters.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> The people we're trying to attract to the LP, aren't even the ones
>>> > >>> paying attention.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> I think that efforts should be focused on overall social media
>>> > strategy,
>>> > >>> and ways to attract new people to the LP.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> EVH
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> ---
>>> > >>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> On 2019-06-28 12:05, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> > >>>> BALLOT 20190628-1:  DIRECTIVE REGARDING SOCIAL MEDIA POST AND WEB
>>> PAGE
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> We have an electronic mail ballot.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JULY 5, 2019 at
>>> 11:59:59 pm
>>> > >>>> Pacific time.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Co-Sponsors:  Harlos, Longstreth, Phillips, Smith
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> =============================================
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Motion: Move that the tweet made on the Party on the official
>>> Twitter
>>> > >>>> account including the quote that “silence equals consent” be
>>> deleted
>>> > >>>> and
>>> > >>>> that the corresponding text on LP.org be removed.  The Executive
>>> > >>>> Director
>>> > >>>> is instructed to rewrite that text to address member and LNC
>>> concerns
>>> > >>>> and
>>> > >>>> submit to the LNC for final approval/amendment.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> =============================================
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
>>> > >>>> http://tinyurl.com/ballot190628-1.  Votes are noted with a link
>>> to
>>> > the
>>> > >>>> actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that
>>> the
>>> > >>>> manual
>>> > >>>> tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Please notify me of any discrepancies.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> --
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> --
>>> > >>
>>> > >> *  In Liberty,*
>>> > >>
>>> > >> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>>> > Caryn.Ann.
>>> > >> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>>> > >> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>>> > >> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>>> > >> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> >
>>> =========================================================================
>>> > >> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism *
>>> Re-Legalize
>>> > All
>>> > >> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
>>> Laws *
>>> > >> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed *
>>> End
>>> > >> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the
>>> Income
>>> > Tax
>>> > >> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
>>> > Services
>>> > >> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private
>>> Sector *
>>> > >> Eliminate Regulation *
>>> > >>
>>> > >> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <
>>> > http://www.lp.org/>*
>>> > >>
>>> >
>>> =========================================================================
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >
>>> > > --
>>> > >
>>> > > *  In Liberty,*
>>> > >
>>> > > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>>> > Caryn.Ann.
>>> > > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>>> > > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>>> > > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>>> > > facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> =========================================================================
>>> > > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism *
>>> Re-Legalize
>>> > All
>>> > > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
>>> Laws *
>>> > > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed *
>>> End
>>> > > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the
>>> Income
>>> > Tax
>>> > > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
>>> > Services
>>> > > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector
>>> *
>>> > > Eliminate Regulation *
>>> > >
>>> > > *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <
>>> > http://www.lp.org/>*
>>> > >
>>> =========================================================================
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>> --
>>
>> *  In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>>
>> =========================================================================
>> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
>> All Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
>> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
>> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
>> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
>> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
>> Eliminate Regulation *
>>
>> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org
>> <http://www.lp.org/>*
>> =========================================================================
>>
> --
>
> *  In Liberty,*
>
> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>
> =========================================================================
> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> Eliminate Regulation *
>
> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>*
> =========================================================================
>
-- 

*  In Liberty,*

*Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
*Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/

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Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
* Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
Eliminate Regulation *

*VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>*
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