[Lnc-business] BALLOT 190628-1: DIRECTIVE REGARDING SOCIAL MEDIA POST AND WEB PAGE

Sat Jun 29 14:38:25 EDT 2019

IOW, maybe one of them did.

Can’t tell you.

On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 12:37 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:

> Ms. Mattson, I wish I could tell you.  There was but it was on APRC.  Draw
> your own conclusions on why I started this request for sponsors as to how
> that discussion went - or at least part of it. I want to give details
> because without them I fear the wrong conclusion will be drawn - but the
> ridiculous secrecy means I can’t.
>
> I think when it comes to things like this the secrecy hampers the ability
> of the LNC.
>
> All I can see is that if BOTH the Chair and the ED agreed there was a need
> to change I would be fine.  They BOTH didn’t.
>
> That is all I can say.
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 5:46 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
>> Was there a conversation with the Chair and ED before just initiating an
>> email ballot?  If so, could someone fill us in on how that went?
>>
>> -Alicia
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 3:31 PM Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via
>> Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> > I agree with Sam and Justin and Vote No
>> >
>> > I agree regarding the problems with the tweet, and agree LNC serve
>> members
>> > but doesn’t mean every action as LNC members must be an official action.
>> >
>> > By bringing this up the LNC and staff this can easily be deleted and
>> > addressed. If there was push back against deleting the tweet or amending
>> > the website then I’d see the possible desire for a vote.
>> >
>> > Although more than likely this can be fixed and addressed by mere
>> informal
>> > discussion (which is happening) and be done before this vote even
>> expires.
>> >
>> > Alex Merced
>> > Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
>> >
>> > > On Jun 28, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Ms. Van Horn, member attraction is a sinking ship without member
>> > > retention.  People do not stay where they think everything is up to
>> the
>> > top
>> > > and they have no voice.
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 2:08 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> > carynannharlos at gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> If that scenario were true, we would have been intervening a million
>> > times
>> > >> already.  The Policy Manual provides for LNC intervention for a
>> reason.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 1:32 PM Elizabeth Van Horn <
>> > >> elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> On this motion: I vote No.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> ------------------------------
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I wasn't aware of the tweet, until an LP member brought it to my
>> > >>> attention on Wednesday. I agree the tweet is bad optics.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I'd recommend that we consult with our ED, and work together to
>> > >>> understand how best to avoid this type of situation in the future.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Trying to delete the tweet after the fact, could reignite the
>> > >>> controversy.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> This brings us to the real issue, that those who're upset, are
>> mostly
>> > LP
>> > >>> members and supporters.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> The people we're trying to attract to the LP, aren't even the ones
>> > >>> paying attention.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I think that efforts should be focused on overall social media
>> > strategy,
>> > >>> and ways to attract new people to the LP.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> EVH
>> > >>>
>> > >>> ---
>> > >>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> On 2019-06-28 12:05, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>> > >>>> BALLOT 20190628-1:  DIRECTIVE REGARDING SOCIAL MEDIA POST AND WEB
>> PAGE
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> We have an electronic mail ballot.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JULY 5, 2019 at 11:59:59
>> pm
>> > >>>> Pacific time.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Co-Sponsors:  Harlos, Longstreth, Phillips, Smith
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> =============================================
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Motion: Move that the tweet made on the Party on the official
>> Twitter
>> > >>>> account including the quote that “silence equals consent” be
>> deleted
>> > >>>> and
>> > >>>> that the corresponding text on LP.org be removed.  The Executive
>> > >>>> Director
>> > >>>> is instructed to rewrite that text to address member and LNC
>> concerns
>> > >>>> and
>> > >>>> submit to the LNC for final approval/amendment.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> =============================================
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
>> > >>>> http://tinyurl.com/ballot190628-1.  Votes are noted with a link to
>> > the
>> > >>>> actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the
>> > >>>> manual
>> > >>>> tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Please notify me of any discrepancies.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> --
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >>
>> > >> *  In Liberty,*
>> > >>
>> > >> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>> > Caryn.Ann.
>> > >> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>> > >> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>> > >> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>> > >> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
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>> > Tax
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>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > >
>> > > *  In Liberty,*
>> > >
>> > > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>> > Caryn.Ann.
>> > > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>> > > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>> > > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>> > > facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>> > >
>> > >
>> =========================================================================
>> > > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
>> > All
>> > > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws
>> *
>> > > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed *
>> End
>> > > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income
>> > Tax
>> > > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
>> > Services
>> > > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
>> > > Eliminate Regulation *
>> > >
>> > > *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <
>> > http://www.lp.org/>*
>> > >
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>> >
>> >
>>
> --
>
> *  In Liberty,*
>
> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>
> =========================================================================
> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> Eliminate Regulation *
>
> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>*
> =========================================================================
>
-- 

*  In Liberty,*

*Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
*Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/

=========================================================================
Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
* Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
Eliminate Regulation *

*VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>*
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