[Lnc-business] BALLOT 190628-1: DIRECTIVE REGARDING SOCIAL MEDIA POST AND WEB PAGE

Sat Jun 29 14:37:11 EDT 2019

Ms. Mattson, I wish I could tell you.  There was but it was on APRC.  Draw
your own conclusions on why I started this request for sponsors as to how
that discussion went - or at least part of it. I want to give details
because without them I fear the wrong conclusion will be drawn - but the
ridiculous secrecy means I can’t.

I think when it comes to things like this the secrecy hampers the ability
of the LNC.

All I can see is that if BOTH the Chair and the ED agreed there was a need
to change I would be fine.  They BOTH didn’t.

That is all I can say.

On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 5:46 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Was there a conversation with the Chair and ED before just initiating an
> email ballot?  If so, could someone fill us in on how that went?
>
> -Alicia
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 3:31 PM Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via
> Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> > I agree with Sam and Justin and Vote No
> >
> > I agree regarding the problems with the tweet, and agree LNC serve
> members
> > but doesn’t mean every action as LNC members must be an official action.
> >
> > By bringing this up the LNC and staff this can easily be deleted and
> > addressed. If there was push back against deleting the tweet or amending
> > the website then I’d see the possible desire for a vote.
> >
> > Although more than likely this can be fixed and addressed by mere
> informal
> > discussion (which is happening) and be done before this vote even
> expires.
> >
> > Alex Merced
> > Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
> >
> > > On Jun 28, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ms. Van Horn, member attraction is a sinking ship without member
> > > retention.  People do not stay where they think everything is up to the
> > top
> > > and they have no voice.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 2:08 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <
> > carynannharlos at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> If that scenario were true, we would have been intervening a million
> > times
> > >> already.  The Policy Manual provides for LNC intervention for a
> reason.
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 1:32 PM Elizabeth Van Horn <
> > >> elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On this motion: I vote No.
> > >>>
> > >>> ------------------------------
> > >>>
> > >>> I wasn't aware of the tweet, until an LP member brought it to my
> > >>> attention on Wednesday. I agree the tweet is bad optics.
> > >>>
> > >>> I'd recommend that we consult with our ED, and work together to
> > >>> understand how best to avoid this type of situation in the future.
> > >>>
> > >>> Trying to delete the tweet after the fact, could reignite the
> > >>> controversy.
> > >>>
> > >>> This brings us to the real issue, that those who're upset, are mostly
> > LP
> > >>> members and supporters.
> > >>>
> > >>> The people we're trying to attract to the LP, aren't even the ones
> > >>> paying attention.
> > >>>
> > >>> I think that efforts should be focused on overall social media
> > strategy,
> > >>> and ways to attract new people to the LP.
> > >>>
> > >>> EVH
> > >>>
> > >>> ---
> > >>> Elizabeth Van Horn
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> On 2019-06-28 12:05, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> > >>>> BALLOT 20190628-1:  DIRECTIVE REGARDING SOCIAL MEDIA POST AND WEB
> PAGE
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We have an electronic mail ballot.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by JULY 5, 2019 at 11:59:59
> pm
> > >>>> Pacific time.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Co-Sponsors:  Harlos, Longstreth, Phillips, Smith
> > >>>>
> > >>>> =============================================
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Motion: Move that the tweet made on the Party on the official
> Twitter
> > >>>> account including the quote that “silence equals consent” be deleted
> > >>>> and
> > >>>> that the corresponding text on LP.org be removed.  The Executive
> > >>>> Director
> > >>>> is instructed to rewrite that text to address member and LNC
> concerns
> > >>>> and
> > >>>> submit to the LNC for final approval/amendment.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> =============================================
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
> > >>>> http://tinyurl.com/ballot190628-1.  Votes are noted with a link to
> > the
> > >>>> actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the
> > >>>> manual
> > >>>> tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Please notify me of any discrepancies.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> *  In Liberty,*
> > >>
> > >> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> > Caryn.Ann.
> > >> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> > >> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> > >> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> > >> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> > >>
> > >>
> > =========================================================================
> > >> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
> > All
> > >> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws
> *
> > >> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed *
> End
> > >> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income
> > Tax
> > >> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
> > Services
> > >> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> > >> Eliminate Regulation *
> > >>
> > >> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <
> > http://www.lp.org/>*
> > >>
> > =========================================================================
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > *  In Liberty,*
> > >
> > > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> > Caryn.Ann.
> > > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> > > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> > > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> > > facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> > >
> > >
> =========================================================================
> > > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
> > All
> > > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
> > > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
> > > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income
> > Tax
> > > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
> > Services
> > > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> > > Eliminate Regulation *
> > >
> > > *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <
> > http://www.lp.org/>*
> > >
> =========================================================================
> >
> >
>
-- 

*  In Liberty,*

*Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
*Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/

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Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
* Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
Eliminate Regulation *

*VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>*
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