[Lnc-business] Website/twitter concern

Thu Jun 27 08:05:29 EDT 2019

Alright, if we get another we can tweak wording but i suggesting

Move that the “silence is consent” tweet be deleted from the national
twitter feed and that the source webpage on LP.org be removed pending
revision by the Executive Director who will submit to the LNC for final
approval and amendment.

On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 5:57 AM John Phillips <john.phillips at lp.org> wrote:

> Yes
>
>
> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> Cell 217-412-5973
>
> On Jun 27, 2019 1:53 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>
> The motion I am considering would include
> 1. Deleting the tweet
> 2. Directing the Executive Director to rewrite that text on the page and
> submit to the LNC for final approval/amendments.  I would normally say
> submit to APRC but since we have decided it is a black hole from which no
> information can emit and members deserve to be privy to the resolution on
> this, the LNC it is.
>
> I am not inclined to support any kind of forced apology.    It is a
> difference of opinion and there is no malice.  Forced apologies are
> generally useless.  I just would like to have this corrected.  I have zero
> interest in a pound of flesh.  This is about party messaging not any kind
> of sin of moral turpitude.
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 11:35 PM Joshua Smith <joshua.smith at lp.org> wrote:
>
> I will certainly co sponsor.
>
> -Joshua
>
> On Jun 26, 2019 10:11 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> Would anyone like to co-sponsor a motion on this?  I don't want to waste
> our time if there is not support.
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 10:40 PM John Phillips <john.phillips at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
> > My personal inbox is flooded with similar.
> >
> > It absolutely needs to be addressed.  ASAP, and honestly an apology and
> > clarification posted.  Volunteers make mistakes, shit happens, not
> saying
> > we need to come down on anyone, but the if we don't address it
> immediately
> > shit is not just happening, we are stepping in it barefoot.
> >
> > John Phillips
> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> > Cell 217-412-5973
> >
> > On Jun 26, 2019 11:24 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> > From a member, reposted with permission:
> >
> > Caryn Ann,
> > I saw today that LPnational made a tweet stating that silence is
> consent.
> > The overall point of fighting back against the status quo is admirable,
> > but
> > SILENCE IS NOT CONSENT!
> >
> > I saw a screenshot, so I googled it, and it turns out the same phrasing
> is
> > on LP.org in the FAQ. Which is probably where the social media person
> got
> > it.
> >
> > This is unacceptable wording to any libertarian for obvious reasons, and
> > politically disasterous messaging.
> >
> > I hope this issue is dealt with swiftly and as delicately as possible. I
> > don't believe anyone at National actually believes what the tweet or faq
> > stated.
> >
> > I would suggest replacing it with "In order for evil to flourish good
> men
> > must do nothing" or something along those lines.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Elijah
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 8:53 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <
> caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I am hoping someone can tell me when this was approved in the first
> > > place.  The website was completely redone while I was on the APRC and
> > > everything was put back before the APRC for review.  I don't recall
> this
> > > being one of them. That was a crazy time so I could have missed it but
> I
> > > also went back and searched through my APRC archive and I don't see
> it,
> > but
> > > then again, I know that some of that stuff was posted as links and not
> > text
> > > so word search is not entirely reliable.
> > >
> > > My point is, if that was not approved by APRC it should not be up
> until
> > > done so.  I can't imagine that was approved by APRC.  But then again,
> > hail
> > > satan on easter escaped our notice.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 7:38 PM Joshua Smith via Lnc-business <
> > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I agree. It's a terrible message and should be removed.
> > >>
> > >> The tweet too..
> > >>
> > >> -Joshua
> > >>
> > >> On Jun 26, 2019 2:14 PM, John Phillips via Lnc-business <
> > >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Agreed.
> > >>
> > >> John Phillips
> > >> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> > >> Cell 217-412-5973
> > >>
> > >> On Jun 26, 2019 3:50 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> > >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> There was a tweet that went out saying silence is consent but it’s
> not
> > >> original to the tweeter - it’s from our website, and members have
> been
> > >> complaining and I think they are absolutely right.
> > >>
> > >> Can that page be pulled pending APRC review?
> > >>
> > >> I don’t recall that page ever coming up for review in the first place
> > but
> > >> I’m old and can miss things.
> > >>
> > >> See attached.
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> *  In Liberty,*
> > >>
> > >> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> > >> Caryn.Ann.
> > >> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> > >> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> > >> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> > >> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > *  In Liberty,*
> > >
> > > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> > Caryn.Ann.
> > > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> > > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> > > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> > > facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> > >
> > >
> >
> =========================================================================
> > > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
> > All
> > > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws
> *
> > > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed *
> End
> > > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income
> > Tax
> > > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
> > Services
> > > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> > > Eliminate Regulation *
> > >
> > > *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <
> > http://www.lp.org/>*
> > >
> >
> =========================================================================
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > *  In Liberty,*
> >
> > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> > Caryn.Ann.
> > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> > facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> >
> >
> =========================================================================
> > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
> All
> > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
> > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
> > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income
> Tax
> > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
> Services
> > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> > Eliminate Regulation *
> >
> > *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <
> http://www.lp.org/>*
> >
> >
> =========================================================================
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> *  In Liberty,*
>
> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>
> =========================================================================
> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> Eliminate Regulation *
>
> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>*
>
> =========================================================================
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> *  In Liberty,*
>
> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>
> =========================================================================
> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> Eliminate Regulation *
>
> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>*
> =========================================================================
>
>
> --

*  In Liberty,*

*Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
*Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/

=========================================================================
Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
* Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
Eliminate Regulation *

*VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>*
=========================================================================