[Lnc-business] Website/twitter concern

Thu Jun 27 09:41:44 EDT 2019

Someone get Sam a Snickers.

On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 7:21 AM John Phillips via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> I see no reason it couldn't be handled that way, honestly if anything that
> is how I would expect it to be handled.
>
>
> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> Cell 217-412-5973
>
> On Jun 27, 2019 8:02 AM, Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein at lp.org> wrote:
>
> Are we going to waste everyone's time with endless motions to
> micromanage the LP's social media or is this
> a situation that can be easily handled by the Chair and/or ED?
>
> ---
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> 317-850-0726 Cell
>
> On 2019-06-27 08:05, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> > Alright, if we get another we can tweak wording but i suggesting
> >
> > Move that the “silence is consent” tweet be deleted from the national
> > twitter feed and that the source webpage on LP.org be removed pending
> > revision by the Executive Director who will submit to the LNC for final
> > approval and amendment.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 5:57 AM John Phillips <john.phillips at lp.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Yes
> >>
> >>
> >> John Phillips
> >> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> >> Cell 217-412-5973
> >>
> >> On Jun 27, 2019 1:53 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> The motion I am considering would include
> >> 1. Deleting the tweet
> >> 2. Directing the Executive Director to rewrite that text on the page
> >> and
> >> submit to the LNC for final approval/amendments.  I would normally say
> >> submit to APRC but since we have decided it is a black hole from which
> >> no
> >> information can emit and members deserve to be privy to the resolution
> >> on
> >> this, the LNC it is.
> >>
> >> I am not inclined to support any kind of forced apology.    It is a
> >> difference of opinion and there is no malice.  Forced apologies are
> >> generally useless.  I just would like to have this corrected.  I have
> >> zero
> >> interest in a pound of flesh.  This is about party messaging not any
> >> kind
> >> of sin of moral turpitude.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 11:35 PM Joshua Smith <joshua.smith at lp.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> I will certainly co sponsor.
> >>
> >> -Joshua
> >>
> >> On Jun 26, 2019 10:11 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Would anyone like to co-sponsor a motion on this?  I don't want to
> >> waste
> >> our time if there is not support.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 10:40 PM John Phillips <john.phillips at lp.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > My personal inbox is flooded with similar.
> >> >
> >> > It absolutely needs to be addressed.  ASAP, and honestly an apology
> and
> >> > clarification posted.  Volunteers make mistakes, shit happens, not
> >> saying
> >> > we need to come down on anyone, but the if we don't address it
> >> immediately
> >> > shit is not just happening, we are stepping in it barefoot.
> >> >
> >> > John Phillips
> >> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> >> > Cell 217-412-5973
> >> >
> >> > On Jun 26, 2019 11:24 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> >> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > From a member, reposted with permission:
> >> >
> >> > Caryn Ann,
> >> > I saw today that LPnational made a tweet stating that silence is
> >> consent.
> >> > The overall point of fighting back against the status quo is
> admirable,
> >> > but
> >> > SILENCE IS NOT CONSENT!
> >> >
> >> > I saw a screenshot, so I googled it, and it turns out the same
> phrasing
> >> is
> >> > on LP.org in the FAQ. Which is probably where the social media person
> >> got
> >> > it.
> >> >
> >> > This is unacceptable wording to any libertarian for obvious reasons,
> and
> >> > politically disasterous messaging.
> >> >
> >> > I hope this issue is dealt with swiftly and as delicately as
> possible. I
> >> > don't believe anyone at National actually believes what the tweet or
> faq
> >> > stated.
> >> >
> >> > I would suggest replacing it with "In order for evil to flourish good
> >> men
> >> > must do nothing" or something along those lines.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you,
> >> > Elijah
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 8:53 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <
> >> caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> >> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I am hoping someone can tell me when this was approved in the first
> >> > > place.  The website was completely redone while I was on the APRC
> and
> >> > > everything was put back before the APRC for review.  I don't recall
> >> this
> >> > > being one of them. That was a crazy time so I could have missed it
> but
> >> I
> >> > > also went back and searched through my APRC archive and I don't see
> >> it,
> >> > but
> >> > > then again, I know that some of that stuff was posted as links and
> not
> >> > text
> >> > > so word search is not entirely reliable.
> >> > >
> >> > > My point is, if that was not approved by APRC it should not be up
> >> until
> >> > > done so.  I can't imagine that was approved by APRC.  But then
> again,
> >> > hail
> >> > > satan on easter escaped our notice.
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 7:38 PM Joshua Smith via Lnc-business <
> >> > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> I agree. It's a terrible message and should be removed.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> The tweet too..
> >> > >>
> >> > >> -Joshua
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Jun 26, 2019 2:14 PM, John Phillips via Lnc-business <
> >> > >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Agreed.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> John Phillips
> >> > >> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> >> > >> Cell 217-412-5973
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Jun 26, 2019 3:50 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> >> > >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> There was a tweet that went out saying silence is consent but it’s
> >> not
> >> > >> original to the tweeter - it’s from our website, and members have
> >> been
> >> > >> complaining and I think they are absolutely right.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Can that page be pulled pending APRC review?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I don’t recall that page ever coming up for review in the first
> place
> >> > but
> >> > >> I’m old and can miss things.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> See attached.
> >> > >> --
> >> > >>
> >> > >> *  In Liberty,*
> >> > >>
> >> > >> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> >> > >> Caryn.Ann.
> >> > >> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> >> > >> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> >> > >> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> >> > >> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >>
> =========================================================================
> >> > >> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism *
> >> Re-Legalize
> >> > >> All
> >> > >> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
> Laws
> >> *
> >> > >> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed
> *
> >> End
> >> > >> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the
> >> Income
> >> > >> Tax
> >> > >> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
> >> > >> Services
> >> > >> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private
> Sector
> >> *
> >> > >> Eliminate Regulation *
> >> > >>
> >> > >> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <
> >> > http://www.lp.org/>*
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >>
> =========================================================================
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > >
> >> > > *  In Liberty,*
> >> > >
> >> > > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> >> > Caryn.Ann.
> >> > > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> >> > > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> >> > > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> >> > > facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> =========================================================================
> >> > > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism *
> Re-Legalize
> >> > All
> >> > > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
> Laws
> >> *
> >> > > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed *
> >> End
> >> > > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the
> Income
> >> > Tax
> >> > > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
> >> > Services
> >> > > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private
> Sector *
> >> > > Eliminate Regulation *
> >> > >
> >> > > *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <
> >> > http://www.lp.org/>*
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> =========================================================================
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> > *  In Liberty,*
> >> >
> >> > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> >> > Caryn.Ann.
> >> > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> >> > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> >> > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> >> > facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> =========================================================================
> >> > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism *
> Re-Legalize
> >> All
> >> > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws
> *
> >> > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed *
> End
> >> > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the
> Income
> >> Tax
> >> > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
> >> Services
> >> > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector
> *
> >> > Eliminate Regulation *
> >> >
> >> > *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <
> >> http://www.lp.org/>*
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> =========================================================================
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> *  In Liberty,*
> >>
> >> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> >> Caryn.Ann.
> >> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> >> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> >> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> >> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> >>
> >>
> =========================================================================
> >> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
> >> All
> >> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws
> >> *
> >> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed *
> >> End
> >> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income
> >> Tax
> >> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
> >> Services
> >> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> >> Eliminate Regulation *
> >>
> >> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org
> >> <http://www.lp.org/>*
> >>
> >>
> =========================================================================
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> *  In Liberty,*
> >>
> >> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> >> Caryn.Ann.
> >> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> >> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> >> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> >> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> >>
> >>
> =========================================================================
> >> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
> >> All
> >> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws
> >> *
> >> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed *
> >> End
> >> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income
> >> Tax
> >> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
> >> Services
> >> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> >> Eliminate Regulation *
> >>
> >> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org
> >> <http://www.lp.org/>*
> >>
> =========================================================================
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >
> > *  In Liberty,*
> >
> > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> > Caryn.Ann.
> > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> > facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> >
> >
> =========================================================================
> > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
> > All
> > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
> > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
> > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income
> > Tax
> > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
> > Services
> > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> > Eliminate Regulation *
> >
> > *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org
> > <http://www.lp.org/>*
> >
> =========================================================================
>
>
> --

*  In Liberty,*

*Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
*Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/

=========================================================================
Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
* Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
Eliminate Regulation *

*VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>*
=========================================================================