[Lnc-business] Website/twitter concern

Thu Jun 27 13:31:47 EDT 2019

I will cosponsor as well and intend to vote in favor for what I consider
obvious reasons.

Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
Libertarian National Committee
richard.longstreth at lp.org
931.538.9300

Sent from my Mobile Device

On Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 05:05 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Alright, if we get another we can tweak wording but i suggesting
>
> Move that the “silence is consent” tweet be deleted from the national
> twitter feed and that the source webpage on LP.org be removed pending
> revision by the Executive Director who will submit to the LNC for final
> approval and amendment.
>
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 5:57 AM John Phillips <john.phillips at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes
> >
> >
> > John Phillips
> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> > Cell 217-412-5973
> >
> > On Jun 27, 2019 1:53 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > The motion I am considering would include
> > 1. Deleting the tweet
> > 2. Directing the Executive Director to rewrite that text on the page and
> > submit to the LNC for final approval/amendments.  I would normally say
> > submit to APRC but since we have decided it is a black hole from which no
> > information can emit and members deserve to be privy to the resolution on
> > this, the LNC it is.
> >
> > I am not inclined to support any kind of forced apology.    It is a
> > difference of opinion and there is no malice.  Forced apologies are
> > generally useless.  I just would like to have this corrected.  I have
> zero
> > interest in a pound of flesh.  This is about party messaging not any kind
> > of sin of moral turpitude.
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 11:35 PM Joshua Smith <joshua.smith at lp.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > I will certainly co sponsor.
> >
> > -Joshua
> >
> > On Jun 26, 2019 10:11 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> > Would anyone like to co-sponsor a motion on this?  I don't want to waste
> > our time if there is not support.
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 10:40 PM John Phillips <john.phillips at lp.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > My personal inbox is flooded with similar.
> > >
> > > It absolutely needs to be addressed.  ASAP, and honestly an apology and
> > > clarification posted.  Volunteers make mistakes, shit happens, not
> > saying
> > > we need to come down on anyone, but the if we don't address it
> > immediately
> > > shit is not just happening, we are stepping in it barefoot.
> > >
> > > John Phillips
> > > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> > > Cell 217-412-5973
> > >
> > > On Jun 26, 2019 11:24 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > From a member, reposted with permission:
> > >
> > > Caryn Ann,
> > > I saw today that LPnational made a tweet stating that silence is
> > consent.
> > > The overall point of fighting back against the status quo is admirable,
> > > but
> > > SILENCE IS NOT CONSENT!
> > >
> > > I saw a screenshot, so I googled it, and it turns out the same phrasing
> > is
> > > on LP.org in the FAQ. Which is probably where the social media person
> > got
> > > it.
> > >
> > > This is unacceptable wording to any libertarian for obvious reasons,
> and
> > > politically disasterous messaging.
> > >
> > > I hope this issue is dealt with swiftly and as delicately as possible.
> I
> > > don't believe anyone at National actually believes what the tweet or
> faq
> > > stated.
> > >
> > > I would suggest replacing it with "In order for evil to flourish good
> > men
> > > must do nothing" or something along those lines.
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Elijah
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 8:53 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <
> > caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am hoping someone can tell me when this was approved in the first
> > > > place.  The website was completely redone while I was on the APRC and
> > > > everything was put back before the APRC for review.  I don't recall
> > this
> > > > being one of them. That was a crazy time so I could have missed it
> but
> > I
> > > > also went back and searched through my APRC archive and I don't see
> > it,
> > > but
> > > > then again, I know that some of that stuff was posted as links and
> not
> > > text
> > > > so word search is not entirely reliable.
> > > >
> > > > My point is, if that was not approved by APRC it should not be up
> > until
> > > > done so.  I can't imagine that was approved by APRC.  But then again,
> > > hail
> > > > satan on easter escaped our notice.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 7:38 PM Joshua Smith via Lnc-business <
> > > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I agree. It's a terrible message and should be removed.
> > > >>
> > > >> The tweet too..
> > > >>
> > > >> -Joshua
> > > >>
> > > >> On Jun 26, 2019 2:14 PM, John Phillips via Lnc-business <
> > > >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Agreed.
> > > >>
> > > >> John Phillips
> > > >> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> > > >> Cell 217-412-5973
> > > >>
> > > >> On Jun 26, 2019 3:50 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> > > >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> There was a tweet that went out saying silence is consent but it’s
> > not
> > > >> original to the tweeter - it’s from our website, and members have
> > been
> > > >> complaining and I think they are absolutely right.
> > > >>
> > > >> Can that page be pulled pending APRC review?
> > > >>
> > > >> I don’t recall that page ever coming up for review in the first
> place
> > > but
> > > >> I’m old and can miss things.
> > > >>
> > > >> See attached.
> > > >> --
> > > >>
> > > >> *  In Liberty,*
> > > >>
> > > >> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> > > >> Caryn.Ann.
> > > >> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> > > >> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> > > >> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> > > >> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > =========================================================================
> > > >> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism *
> > Re-Legalize
> > > >> All
> > > >> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
> Laws
> > *
> > > >> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed *
> > End
> > > >> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the
> > Income
> > > >> Tax
> > > >> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
> > > >> Services
> > > >> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector
> > *
> > > >> Eliminate Regulation *
> > > >>
> > > >> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <
> > > http://www.lp.org/>*
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > =========================================================================
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > *  In Liberty,*
> > > >
> > > > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> > > Caryn.Ann.
> > > > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> > > > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> > > > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> > > > facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > =========================================================================
> > > > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism *
> Re-Legalize
> > > All
> > > > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws
> > *
> > > > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed *
> > End
> > > > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the
> Income
> > > Tax
> > > > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
> > > Services
> > > > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector
> *
> > > > Eliminate Regulation *
> > > >
> > > > *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <
> > > http://www.lp.org/>*
> > > >
> > >
> > =========================================================================
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > *  In Liberty,*
> > >
> > > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> > > Caryn.Ann.
> > > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> > > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> > > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> > > facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> > >
> > >
> > =========================================================================
> > > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
> > All
> > > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
> > > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
> > > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income
> > Tax
> > > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
> > Services
> > > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> > > Eliminate Regulation *
> > >
> > > *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <
> > http://www.lp.org/>*
> > >
> > >
> > =========================================================================
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> >
> > *  In Liberty,*
> >
> > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> > Caryn.Ann.
> > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> > facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> >
> > =========================================================================
> > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
> All
> > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
> > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
> > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income
> Tax
> > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
> Services
> > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> > Eliminate Regulation *
> >
> > *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <
> http://www.lp.org/>*
> >
> > =========================================================================
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > *  In Liberty,*
> >
> > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> Caryn.Ann.
> > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> > facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
> >
> > =========================================================================
> > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
> All
> > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
> > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
> > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income
> Tax
> > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
> Services
> > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> > Eliminate Regulation *
> >
> > *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <
> http://www.lp.org/>*
> > =========================================================================
> >
> >
> > --
>
> *  In Liberty,*
>
> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>
> =========================================================================
> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> Eliminate Regulation *
>
> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/
> >*
> =========================================================================
>