[Lnc-business] Website/twitter concern

Thu Jun 27 23:16:04 EDT 2019

I will start a ballot tonight.

On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 11:31 AM Richard Longstreth <
richard.longstreth at lp.org> wrote:

> I will cosponsor as well and intend to vote in favor for what I consider
> obvious reasons.
>
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
> Libertarian National Committee
> richard.longstreth at lp.org
> 931.538.9300
>
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> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019, 05:05 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
>> Alright, if we get another we can tweak wording but i suggesting
>>
>> Move that the “silence is consent” tweet be deleted from the national
>> twitter feed and that the source webpage on LP.org be removed pending
>> revision by the Executive Director who will submit to the LNC for final
>> approval and amendment.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 5:57 AM John Phillips <john.phillips at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Yes
>> >
>> >
>> > John Phillips
>> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>> > Cell 217-412-5973
>> >
>> > On Jun 27, 2019 1:53 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > The motion I am considering would include
>> > 1. Deleting the tweet
>> > 2. Directing the Executive Director to rewrite that text on the page and
>> > submit to the LNC for final approval/amendments.  I would normally say
>> > submit to APRC but since we have decided it is a black hole from which
>> no
>> > information can emit and members deserve to be privy to the resolution
>> on
>> > this, the LNC it is.
>> >
>> > I am not inclined to support any kind of forced apology.    It is a
>> > difference of opinion and there is no malice.  Forced apologies are
>> > generally useless.  I just would like to have this corrected.  I have
>> zero
>> > interest in a pound of flesh.  This is about party messaging not any
>> kind
>> > of sin of moral turpitude.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 11:35 PM Joshua Smith <joshua.smith at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I will certainly co sponsor.
>> >
>> > -Joshua
>> >
>> > On Jun 26, 2019 10:11 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Would anyone like to co-sponsor a motion on this?  I don't want to waste
>> > our time if there is not support.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 10:40 PM John Phillips <john.phillips at lp.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > My personal inbox is flooded with similar.
>> > >
>> > > It absolutely needs to be addressed.  ASAP, and honestly an apology
>> and
>> > > clarification posted.  Volunteers make mistakes, shit happens, not
>> > saying
>> > > we need to come down on anyone, but the if we don't address it
>> > immediately
>> > > shit is not just happening, we are stepping in it barefoot.
>> > >
>> > > John Phillips
>> > > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>> > > Cell 217-412-5973
>> > >
>> > > On Jun 26, 2019 11:24 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>> > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > From a member, reposted with permission:
>> > >
>> > > Caryn Ann,
>> > > I saw today that LPnational made a tweet stating that silence is
>> > consent.
>> > > The overall point of fighting back against the status quo is
>> admirable,
>> > > but
>> > > SILENCE IS NOT CONSENT!
>> > >
>> > > I saw a screenshot, so I googled it, and it turns out the same
>> phrasing
>> > is
>> > > on LP.org in the FAQ. Which is probably where the social media person
>> > got
>> > > it.
>> > >
>> > > This is unacceptable wording to any libertarian for obvious reasons,
>> and
>> > > politically disasterous messaging.
>> > >
>> > > I hope this issue is dealt with swiftly and as delicately as
>> possible. I
>> > > don't believe anyone at National actually believes what the tweet or
>> faq
>> > > stated.
>> > >
>> > > I would suggest replacing it with "In order for evil to flourish good
>> > men
>> > > must do nothing" or something along those lines.
>> > >
>> > > Thank you,
>> > > Elijah
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 8:53 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> > caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>> > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I am hoping someone can tell me when this was approved in the first
>> > > > place.  The website was completely redone while I was on the APRC
>> and
>> > > > everything was put back before the APRC for review.  I don't recall
>> > this
>> > > > being one of them. That was a crazy time so I could have missed it
>> but
>> > I
>> > > > also went back and searched through my APRC archive and I don't see
>> > it,
>> > > but
>> > > > then again, I know that some of that stuff was posted as links and
>> not
>> > > text
>> > > > so word search is not entirely reliable.
>> > > >
>> > > > My point is, if that was not approved by APRC it should not be up
>> > until
>> > > > done so.  I can't imagine that was approved by APRC.  But then
>> again,
>> > > hail
>> > > > satan on easter escaped our notice.
>> > > >
>> > > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 7:38 PM Joshua Smith via Lnc-business <
>> > > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> I agree. It's a terrible message and should be removed.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> The tweet too..
>> > > >>
>> > > >> -Joshua
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Jun 26, 2019 2:14 PM, John Phillips via Lnc-business <
>> > > >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Agreed.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> John Phillips
>> > > >> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>> > > >> Cell 217-412-5973
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Jun 26, 2019 3:50 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>> > > >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> There was a tweet that went out saying silence is consent but it’s
>> > not
>> > > >> original to the tweeter - it’s from our website, and members have
>> > been
>> > > >> complaining and I think they are absolutely right.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Can that page be pulled pending APRC review?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I don’t recall that page ever coming up for review in the first
>> place
>> > > but
>> > > >> I’m old and can miss things.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> See attached.
>> > > >> --
>> > > >>
>> > > >> *  In Liberty,*
>> > > >>
>> > > >> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>> > > >> Caryn.Ann.
>> > > >> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>> > > >> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>> > > >> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>> > > >> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> >
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>> > Re-Legalize
>> > > >> All
>> > > >> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
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>> > *
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>> > End
>> > > >> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the
>> > Income
>> > > >> Tax
>> > > >> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
>> > > >> Services
>> > > >> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private
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>> > > >>
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>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > >
>> > > > *  In Liberty,*
>> > > >
>> > > > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>> > > Caryn.Ann.
>> > > > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>> > > > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>> > > > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>> > > > facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> =========================================================================
>> > > > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism *
>> Re-Legalize
>> > > All
>> > > > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun
>> Laws
>> > *
>> > > > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed *
>> > End
>> > > > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the
>> Income
>> > > Tax
>> > > > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
>> > > Services
>> > > > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private
>> Sector *
>> > > > Eliminate Regulation *
>> > > >
>> > > > *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <
>> > > http://www.lp.org/>*
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> =========================================================================
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > >
>> > > *  In Liberty,*
>> > >
>> > > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>> > > Caryn.Ann.
>> > > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>> > > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>> > > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>> > > facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> =========================================================================
>> > > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
>> > All
>> > > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws
>> *
>> > > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed *
>> End
>> > > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income
>> > Tax
>> > > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
>> > Services
>> > > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
>> > > Eliminate Regulation *
>> > >
>> > > *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <
>> > http://www.lp.org/>*
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> =========================================================================
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > *  In Liberty,*
>> >
>> > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>> > Caryn.Ann.
>> > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>> > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>> > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>> > facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>> >
>> >
>> =========================================================================
>> > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
>> All
>> > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
>> > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
>> > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income
>> Tax
>> > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
>> Services
>> > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
>> > Eliminate Regulation *
>> >
>> > *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <
>> http://www.lp.org/>*
>> >
>> >
>> =========================================================================
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > *  In Liberty,*
>> >
>> > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>> Caryn.Ann.
>> > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>> > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>> > Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>> > facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>> >
>> >
>> =========================================================================
>> > Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize
>> All
>> > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
>> > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
>> > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income
>> Tax
>> > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
>> Services
>> > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
>> > Eliminate Regulation *
>> >
>> > *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <
>> http://www.lp.org/>*
>> >
>> =========================================================================
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>>
>> *  In Liberty,*
>>
>> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
>> Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
>> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
>> Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
>> facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/
>>
>> =========================================================================
>> Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
>> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
>> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
>> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
>> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
>> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
>> Eliminate Regulation *
>>
>> *VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/
>> >*
>> =========================================================================
>>
> --

*  In Liberty,*

*Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
*Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/

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Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
* Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
Eliminate Regulation *

*VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>*
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