[Lnc-business] Fwd: Goodbye to a valued colleague.

Mon Jul 1 14:14:04 EDT 2019

I'll also be blunt.  It doesn't matter what the LNC Chair says.

Lauren has already stated:  "I think the EPCC is the best entity to 
conduct an exit interview and I would prefer that they do it."

Caryn Ann, you then responded and said:  "...It is your wishes I want to 
respect..."

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Elizabeth Van Horn

On 2019-07-01 13:04, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> When you get your AARP letter then you have arrived!  I’m officially 
> old
> rather than older.  I’m looking forward to retiring and yelling at kids 
> if
> their parents would ever let them out anymore.
> 
> And there’s no extra pay.  Not enough double.
> 
> I don’t need to justify why no, what I describe is not accomplished in 
> that
> way.
> 
> I request to be present.  If the chair wants to discuss with me why 
> it’s
> different, I welcome his call.
> 
> If the chair  wants to deny my request he may and I request that an
> explanation accompany any such denial.
> 
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 10:37 AM Joe Bishop-Henchman <
> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org> wrote:
> 
>> I've just mentally recorded that today at age 38 is when I am first
>> described as an older man. Time marches on.
>> 
>> If I'm being treated like an officer, it's news to me. I haven't 
>> spoken
>> to Nick in weeks. Though I will today.
>> 
>> You chose to be blunt, and I will be blunt as well. What you are
>> describing can be accomplished by a conversation between you and Ms.
>> Daugherty. That's up to you and her. And if you have a reputation for
>> sensitivity about sensitive matters, finding the truth without
>> distortions, and putting long-term change ahead of short-term gain, 
>> it's
>> a no-brainer to happen.
>> 
>> JBH
>> 
>> ------------
>> Joe Bishop-Henchman
>> LNC Member (At-Large)
>> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> 
>> On 2019-07-01 12:13, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>> > Trial?
>> >
>> > Let me be blunt.  I want to be present for the interview if Ms.
>> > Daugherty consents.
>> >
>> > With all due respect, a group of older men with no female presence
>> > wanting honest feedback on why we lost such a valuable woman employee
>> > is foolish.
>> >
>> > After all the pomp and circumstance and forms and and trappings are
>> > followed, I just want to know what happened - human connection to
>> > human connection.  Human connections are not neat and tidy and bound
>> > with a bow.  Sanitized plastic doesn’t help me as an alleged officer
>> > know what happened.
>> >
>> > Mr. Bishop-Henchman I respect the heck out of you but our chair has
>> > made you a de facto officer ahead of the people actually elected to
>> > those roles.   His preference may be better than the delegates but
>> > that’s not what they chose and I value your input but I’m done
>> > with gatekeepers.
>> >
>> > I want to be present.  Simple as that.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 9:11 AM Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business
>> > <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> My understanding of the best practice for exit interviews is that
>> >> they
>> >> occur for all departing employees, and that they be done by an HR
>> >> professional, preferably one as far removed from the direct
>> >> supervisor
>> >> as possible. Then a couple things can happen. Management or the
>> >> Board
>> >> can get a full copy, or a summarized one. Or the HR person can
>> >> distill
>> >> the conversation into actionable recommendations and convey those.
>> >> The
>> >> latter usually gets more candidness from the departing employee, and
>> >>
>> >> produces something useful to do. Because they are sanitized and
>> >> translated, they can be more opaque as to *why* something is a
>> >> recommendation, which can be a pro or a con depending on how you
>> >> look at
>> >> it.
>> >>
>> >> Exit interviews are totally uncomfortable for management but it's
>> >> important they happen because otherwise managers will assume things
>> >> about why an employee leaves rather than knowing. I have gotten
>> >> useful
>> >> information on how to improve how I am as a manager from every exit
>> >> interview or how I communicate what we do and structure how we do
>> >> it,
>> >> even ones from awful people who did terrible work (which is
>> >> certainly
>> >> not the case here!).
>> >>
>> >> I also seriously doubt we would get useful and actionable
>> >> information
>> >> from an "exit interview" in front of the full Board, even in closed
>> >> session. No one does that. That's a show trial.
>> >>
>> >> JBH
>> >>
>> >> ------------
>> >> Joe Bishop-Henchman
>> >> LNC Member (At-Large)
>> >> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> >> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837 [1]
>> >>
>> >> On 2019-06-30 12:53, brent.olsen--- via Lnc-business wrote:
>> >>> I concur Ms. Mattson.
>> >>>
>> >>> -Brent
>> >>>
>> >>> On 2019-06-30 01:42, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
>> >>>> I would object to subjecting Lauren to a 17-person exit interview
>> >>
>> >>>> during
>> >>>> our limited meeting time together in Austin.  That experience
>> >> might go
>> >>>> on
>> >>>> her list of things she wants to talk about during her exit
>> >>>> interview...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I think the EPCC is the appropriate body to conduct an exit
>> >> interview,
>> >>>> as
>> >>>> our policy manual says they "shall also be available to Staff to
>> >>>> discuss on
>> >>>> a confidential basis the working environment."
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -Alicia
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >  --
>> >
>> >   IN LIBERTY,
>> > __
>> >
>> > LIBERTARIAN PARTY AND LIBERTARIAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE SECRETARY -
>> > Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>> > CHAIR, LP HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE - LPedia at LP.org
>> >
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>> 
> --
> 
> *  In Liberty,*
> 
> *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- 
> Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
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> All
> Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
> Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
> Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income 
> Tax
> * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency 
> Services
> * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
> Eliminate Regulation *
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