[Lnc-business] Fwd: Goodbye to a valued colleague.

Mon Jul 1 14:25:00 EDT 2019

Elizabeth (I remembered!), I always said IF Lauren consents.  If she
doesn’t, next issue.  We agree.

I’ll ask Lauren if she consents.  She’s the boss here.

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 12:14 PM Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>
wrote:

> I'll also be blunt.  It doesn't matter what the LNC Chair says.
>
> Lauren has already stated:  "I think the EPCC is the best entity to
> conduct an exit interview and I would prefer that they do it."
>
> Caryn Ann, you then responded and said:  "...It is your wishes I want to
> respect..."
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
>
>
> On 2019-07-01 13:04, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> > When you get your AARP letter then you have arrived!  I’m officially
> > old
> > rather than older.  I’m looking forward to retiring and yelling at kids
> > if
> > their parents would ever let them out anymore.
> >
> > And there’s no extra pay.  Not enough double.
> >
> > I don’t need to justify why no, what I describe is not accomplished in
> > that
> > way.
> >
> > I request to be present.  If the chair wants to discuss with me why
> > it’s
> > different, I welcome his call.
> >
> > If the chair  wants to deny my request he may and I request that an
> > explanation accompany any such denial.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 10:37 AM Joe Bishop-Henchman <
> > joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I've just mentally recorded that today at age 38 is when I am first
> >> described as an older man. Time marches on.
> >>
> >> If I'm being treated like an officer, it's news to me. I haven't
> >> spoken
> >> to Nick in weeks. Though I will today.
> >>
> >> You chose to be blunt, and I will be blunt as well. What you are
> >> describing can be accomplished by a conversation between you and Ms.
> >> Daugherty. That's up to you and her. And if you have a reputation for
> >> sensitivity about sensitive matters, finding the truth without
> >> distortions, and putting long-term change ahead of short-term gain,
> >> it's
> >> a no-brainer to happen.
> >>
> >> JBH
> >>
> >> ------------
> >> Joe Bishop-Henchman
> >> LNC Member (At-Large)
> >> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> >> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
> >>
> >> On 2019-07-01 12:13, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> >> > Trial?
> >> >
> >> > Let me be blunt.  I want to be present for the interview if Ms.
> >> > Daugherty consents.
> >> >
> >> > With all due respect, a group of older men with no female presence
> >> > wanting honest feedback on why we lost such a valuable woman employee
> >> > is foolish.
> >> >
> >> > After all the pomp and circumstance and forms and and trappings are
> >> > followed, I just want to know what happened - human connection to
> >> > human connection.  Human connections are not neat and tidy and bound
> >> > with a bow.  Sanitized plastic doesn’t help me as an alleged officer
> >> > know what happened.
> >> >
> >> > Mr. Bishop-Henchman I respect the heck out of you but our chair has
> >> > made you a de facto officer ahead of the people actually elected to
> >> > those roles.   His preference may be better than the delegates but
> >> > that’s not what they chose and I value your input but I’m done
> >> > with gatekeepers.
> >> >
> >> > I want to be present.  Simple as that.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 9:11 AM Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business
> >> > <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> My understanding of the best practice for exit interviews is that
> >> >> they
> >> >> occur for all departing employees, and that they be done by an HR
> >> >> professional, preferably one as far removed from the direct
> >> >> supervisor
> >> >> as possible. Then a couple things can happen. Management or the
> >> >> Board
> >> >> can get a full copy, or a summarized one. Or the HR person can
> >> >> distill
> >> >> the conversation into actionable recommendations and convey those.
> >> >> The
> >> >> latter usually gets more candidness from the departing employee, and
> >> >>
> >> >> produces something useful to do. Because they are sanitized and
> >> >> translated, they can be more opaque as to *why* something is a
> >> >> recommendation, which can be a pro or a con depending on how you
> >> >> look at
> >> >> it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Exit interviews are totally uncomfortable for management but it's
> >> >> important they happen because otherwise managers will assume things
> >> >> about why an employee leaves rather than knowing. I have gotten
> >> >> useful
> >> >> information on how to improve how I am as a manager from every exit
> >> >> interview or how I communicate what we do and structure how we do
> >> >> it,
> >> >> even ones from awful people who did terrible work (which is
> >> >> certainly
> >> >> not the case here!).
> >> >>
> >> >> I also seriously doubt we would get useful and actionable
> >> >> information
> >> >> from an "exit interview" in front of the full Board, even in closed
> >> >> session. No one does that. That's a show trial.
> >> >>
> >> >> JBH
> >> >>
> >> >> ------------
> >> >> Joe Bishop-Henchman
> >> >> LNC Member (At-Large)
> >> >> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> >> >> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837 [1]
> >> >>
> >> >> On 2019-06-30 12:53, brent.olsen--- via Lnc-business wrote:
> >> >>> I concur Ms. Mattson.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -Brent
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 2019-06-30 01:42, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
> >> >>>> I would object to subjecting Lauren to a 17-person exit interview
> >> >>
> >> >>>> during
> >> >>>> our limited meeting time together in Austin.  That experience
> >> >> might go
> >> >>>> on
> >> >>>> her list of things she wants to talk about during her exit
> >> >>>> interview...
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I think the EPCC is the appropriate body to conduct an exit
> >> >> interview,
> >> >>>> as
> >> >>>> our policy manual says they "shall also be available to Staff to
> >> >>>> discuss on
> >> >>>> a confidential basis the working environment."
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> -Alicia
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >  --
> >> >
> >> >   IN LIBERTY,
> >> > __
> >> >
> >> > LIBERTARIAN PARTY AND LIBERTARIAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE SECRETARY -
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> > --
> >
> > *  In Liberty,*
> >
> > *Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *-
> > Caryn.Ann.
> > Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
> > *Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
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> > All
> > Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
> > Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
> > Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income
> > Tax
> > * Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency
> > Services
> > * Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
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*  In Liberty,*

*Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary *- Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
*Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee* - LPedia at LP.org
Call me at 561.523.2250 and follow my public figure page at
facebook.com/pinkflameofliberty/

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Peaceful Commerce With All Nations * Non-interventionism * Re-Legalize All
Drugs * End Government Intrusion In The Bedroom * Repeal All Gun Laws *
Abolish All Taxation * Sound, Free-market Money * Abolish The Fed * End
Corporate & Individual Welfare * Abolish The IRS and Repeal the Income Tax
* Privatize Transportation Infrastructure * Free-market Emergency Services
* Open Migration * Transfer Government Schools To The Private Sector *
Eliminate Regulation *

*VOTE LIBERTARIAN * 800-ELECT-US or http://www.LP.org <http://www.lp.org/>*
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