[Lnc-business] Fwd: Goodbye to a valued colleague.

Mon Jul 1 14:50:22 EDT 2019

I am reaching out to Lauren.

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 12:38 PM Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>
wrote:

> Oh, and the criteria for exit interviews is probably something our ED
> should draw-up.  The LNC could make suggestions, but not be the creators
> of the policy.  (Maybe a collaborative effort, to make the initial exit
> interview policy, but I don't think the LNC needs to become an HR
> department. : )
>
>
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>
>
> On 2019-07-01 14:33, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
> > Yes. I personally wouldn't direct a request to the Chair.  I'd ask
> > Lauren.  Then go with what she prefers.
> >
> > This also raises the issue that Joe mentioned about good HR policy. LP
> > national should have a policy in place for exit interviews.  We don't
> > currently have an HR person/department.  But, we can have a policy in
> > place that would create exit interview criteria. For future situations.
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Elizabeth Van Horn
> >
> > On 2019-07-01 14:25, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> >
> >> Elizabeth (I remembered!), I always said IF Lauren consents.  If she
> >> doesn't, next issue.  We agree.
> >>
> >> I'll ask Lauren if she consents.  She's the boss here.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 12:14 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
> >> <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'll also be blunt.  It doesn't matter what the LNC Chair says.
> >>>
> >>> Lauren has already stated:  "I think the EPCC is the best entity to
> >>> conduct an exit interview and I would prefer that they do it."
> >>>
> >>> Caryn Ann, you then responded and said:  "...It is your wishes I want
> >>> to
> >>> respect..."
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> Elizabeth Van Horn
> >>>
> >>> On 2019-07-01 13:04, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> >>>> When you get your AARP letter then you have arrived!  I'm officially
> >>>> old
> >>>> rather than older.  I'm looking forward to retiring and yelling at
> >>>> kids
> >>>> if
> >>>> their parents would ever let them out anymore.
> >>>>
> >>>> And there's no extra pay.  Not enough double.
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't need to justify why no, what I describe is not accomplished
> >>>> in
> >>>> that
> >>>> way.
> >>>>
> >>>> I request to be present.  If the chair wants to discuss with me why
> >>>> it's
> >>>> different, I welcome his call.
> >>>>
> >>>> If the chair  wants to deny my request he may and I request that an
> >>>> explanation accompany any such denial.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 10:37 AM Joe Bishop-Henchman <
> >>>> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I've just mentally recorded that today at age 38 is when I am first
> >>>>> described as an older man. Time marches on.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If I'm being treated like an officer, it's news to me. I haven't
> >>>>> spoken
> >>>>> to Nick in weeks. Though I will today.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You chose to be blunt, and I will be blunt as well. What you are
> >>>>> describing can be accomplished by a conversation between you and
> >>>>> Ms.
> >>>>> Daugherty. That's up to you and her. And if you have a reputation
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> sensitivity about sensitive matters, finding the truth without
> >>>>> distortions, and putting long-term change ahead of short-term gain,
> >>>>> it's
> >>>>> a no-brainer to happen.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> JBH
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------
> >>>>> Joe Bishop-Henchman
> >>>>> LNC Member (At-Large)
> >>>>> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> >>>>> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837 [1]
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2019-07-01 12:13, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> >>>>>> Trial?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Let me be blunt.  I want to be present for the interview if Ms.
> >>>>>> Daugherty consents.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> With all due respect, a group of older men with no female presence
> >>>>>> wanting honest feedback on why we lost such a valuable woman
> >>>>>> employee
> >>>>>> is foolish.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> After all the pomp and circumstance and forms and and trappings
> >>>>>> are
> >>>>>> followed, I just want to know what happened - human connection to
> >>>>>> human connection.  Human connections are not neat and tidy and
> >>>>>> bound
> >>>>>> with a bow.  Sanitized plastic doesn't help me as an alleged
> >>>>>> officer
> >>>>>> know what happened.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mr. Bishop-Henchman I respect the heck out of you but our chair
> >>>>>> has
> >>>>>> made you a de facto officer ahead of the people actually elected
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> those roles.   His preference may be better than the delegates but
> >>>>>> that's not what they chose and I value your input but I'm done
> >>>>>> with gatekeepers.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I want to be present.  Simple as that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 9:11 AM Joe Bishop-Henchman via
> >>>>>> Lnc-business
> >>>>>> <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> My understanding of the best practice for exit interviews is that
> >>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>> occur for all departing employees, and that they be done by an HR
> >>>>>>> professional, preferably one as far removed from the direct
> >>>>>>> supervisor
> >>>>>>> as possible. Then a couple things can happen. Management or the
> >>>>>>> Board
> >>>>>>> can get a full copy, or a summarized one. Or the HR person can
> >>>>>>> distill
> >>>>>>> the conversation into actionable recommendations and convey
> >>>>>>> those.
> >>>>>>> The
> >>>>>>> latter usually gets more candidness from the departing employee,
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> produces something useful to do. Because they are sanitized and
> >>>>>>> translated, they can be more opaque as to *why* something is a
> >>>>>>> recommendation, which can be a pro or a con depending on how you
> >>>>>>> look at
> >>>>>>> it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Exit interviews are totally uncomfortable for management but it's
> >>>>>>> important they happen because otherwise managers will assume
> >>>>>>> things
> >>>>>>> about why an employee leaves rather than knowing. I have gotten
> >>>>>>> useful
> >>>>>>> information on how to improve how I am as a manager from every
> >>>>>>> exit
> >>>>>>> interview or how I communicate what we do and structure how we do
> >>>>>>> it,
> >>>>>>> even ones from awful people who did terrible work (which is
> >>>>>>> certainly
> >>>>>>> not the case here!).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I also seriously doubt we would get useful and actionable
> >>>>>>> information
> >>>>>>> from an "exit interview" in front of the full Board, even in
> >>>>>>> closed
> >>>>>>> session. No one does that. That's a show trial.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> JBH
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ------------
> >>>>>>> Joe Bishop-Henchman
> >>>>>>> LNC Member (At-Large)
> >>>>>>> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> >>>>>>> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837 [1] [1]
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 2019-06-30 12:53, brent.olsen--- via Lnc-business wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I concur Ms. Mattson.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -Brent
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 2019-06-30 01:42, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> I would object to subjecting Lauren to a 17-person exit
> >>>>>>>>> interview
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> during
> >>>>>>>>> our limited meeting time together in Austin.  That experience
> >>>>>>> might go
> >>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>> her list of things she wants to talk about during her exit
> >>>>>>>>> interview...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I think the EPCC is the appropriate body to conduct an exit
> >>>>>>> interview,
> >>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>> our policy manual says they "shall also be available to Staff
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> discuss on
> >>>>>>>>> a confidential basis the working environment."
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -Alicia
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >
> >
> > Links:
> > ------
> > [1] http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>
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