[Lnc-business] Resolution supporting Dream and Promise Act - request for co-sponsors

Thu Sep 5 17:26:40 EDT 2019

Mr. Goldstein, the *immigrant *community that asked me to ask the LNC to
support may be observing this.  Once again, I am embarrassed at how rude we
can be.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 2:48 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:

> People often ignore co-sponsor requests.  I had to actively go get ones
> for minutes.
>
> Nick could yes.
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 1:42 PM <brent.olsen at lp.org> wrote:
>
>> Couldn't Nick just make this an email ballot himself, as that does seem
>> the appropriate thing to do considering it was removed from the agenda
>> at the last meeting in order to save time, with the idea that it would
>> be handled via email ballot...  On the other hand, if it can't get
>> enough co-sponsors, how likely is it to pass?
>> -Brent
>>
>>
>> On 2019-09-05 10:31, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>> > Nick, please consider this my request for agenda time next meeting if
>> > there
>> > are not sponsors for an email ballot.
>> >
>> > Either way, this is going to be heard.
>> >
>> > *In Liberty,*
>> >
>> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
>> > faux
>> > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 11:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
>> > <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Before I ever agree to put anything to email ballot again I will
>> >> insist on
>> >> it being sponsored then and there.  When a person agrees to shorten a
>> >> meeting, it is absolutely discourteous to not sponsor to at least get
>> >> a
>> >> vote heard.  No one needs to discuss but to agree to send to email
>> >> ballot
>> >> and then call having said email ballot is a waste of time is a crappy
>> >> thing
>> >> to do.
>> >>
>> >> *In Liberty,*
>> >>
>> >> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>> >> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
>> >> anyone
>> >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
>> >> faux
>> >> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 9:11 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business <
>> >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> As Caryn Ann pointed out and we all discussed at the time, this was
>> >>> an
>> >>> agenda item from our last meeting so I would hardly consider us
>> >>> attempting
>> >>> to wrap up a previous agenda item as a waste of time.
>> >>>
>> >>> To not resolve this discussion would be to guarantee that I never
>> >>> vote to
>> >>> push anything from a meeting to discuss by email ever again. Count on
>> >>> some
>> >>> long(er) meetings going forward if this becomes a way for items of
>> >>> discussion to be avoided all together by feigning discussion to email
>> >>> without actual intention to do so.
>> >>>
>> >>> Alternatively, I would cosponsor an e-meeting if that is the
>> >>> preference of
>> >>> the body to handle such things. Something tells me that most would
>> >>> prefer
>> >>> email instead.
>> >>>
>> >>> Richard Longstreth
>> >>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>> >>> Libertarian National Committee
>> >>> richard.longstreth at lp.org
>> >>> 931.538.9300
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my Mobile Device
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019, 08:00 Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein at lp.org>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > I will express again my concern about wasting LNC time on
>> meaningless
>> >>> > resolutions and will not co-sponsor, discuss or vote on this matter.
>> >>> > ---
>> >>> > Sam Goldstein
>> >>> > Libertarian National Committee
>> >>> > 317-850-0726 Cell
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On 2019-09-05 10:34, John Phillips via Lnc-business wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Sorry it took so long, I was reviewing the language in question.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I agree with the concerns, but I also agree with Ms Harlos' on her
>> >>> > reasoning on the answer to those concerns.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > So I will also sponsor
>> >>> >
>> >>> > John Phillips
>> >>> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>> >>> > Cell 217-412-5973
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Sep 5, 2019 8:55 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business <
>> >>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I still have concerns but since discussion isn't happening without
>> >>> > cosponsorship, I will go ahead and cosponsor and would love for
>> those
>> >>> with
>> >>> > opposition to share their thoughts.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Richard Longstreth
>> >>> > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>> >>> > Libertarian National Committee
>> >>> > richard.longstreth at lp.org
>> >>> > 931.538.9300
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Sent from my Mobile Device
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019, 18:45 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>> >>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > > Yes.  Ms. Adams objected to some of the requirements.  However,
>> these
>> >>> > are
>> >>> > > requirements that are required of citizens (whether or not we
>> agree
>> >>> with
>> >>> > > them) and do not want to support giving them a path here?
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > We can support the path here and oppose those requirements on
>> >>> everyone,
>> >>> > not
>> >>> > > just foreign nationals.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > *In Liberty,*
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
>> Syndrome
>> >>> > > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> >>> > > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
>> >>> anyone
>> >>> > > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
>> social
>> >>> > faux
>> >>> > > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 11:20 AM John Phillips via Lnc-business <
>> >>> > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > > This is the one that some people were concerned about some of
>> the
>> >>> bill
>> >>> > > > language?
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > John Phillips
>> >>> > > > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>> >>> > > > Cell 217-412-5973
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > On Sep 2, 2019 11:30 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>> >>> > > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > Bumpity.
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > *  In Liberty,*
>> >>> > > > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
>> >>> Syndrome
>> >>> > > > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> >>> > > > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
>> >>> > anyone
>> >>> > > > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
>> social
>> >>> > faux
>> >>> > > > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me
>> >>> know.
>> >>> > *
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 8:03 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> >>> > > carynannharlos at gmail.com>
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > wrote:
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > > As deferred from the last meeting to be handled by email
>> ballot, I
>> >>> > seek
>> >>> > > > > co-sponsors for the following resolution:
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > Resolved, until such time that the immigration process in the
>> >>> United
>> >>> > > > > States of America acknowledges the human right of peaceful
>> people
>> >>> to
>> >>> > > > move
>> >>> > > > > freely across national borders,  the Libertarian National
>> >>> Committee
>> >>> > > > > supports the passage of the American Dream and Promise Act by
>> the
>> >>> US
>> >>> > > > House
>> >>> > > > > and urges the US Senate to pass same.
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > Attached is the information also that is from the One Note
>> from
>> >>> last
>> >>> > > > > meeting.
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > Also here is the link from congress.gov:
>> >>> > > > > https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/6
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > *  In Liberty,*
>> >>> > > > > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
>> >>> > Syndrome
>> >>> > > > > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> >>> > > > > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.
>> If
>> >>> > anyone
>> >>> > > > > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
>> >>> social
>> >>> > > > faux
>> >>> > > > > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let
>> me
>> >>> > know.
>> >>> > > *
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>
>>
>> --
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>
>