[Lnc-business] Resolution supporting Dream and Promise Act - request for co-sponsors

Thu Sep 5 16:48:56 EDT 2019

People often ignore co-sponsor requests.  I had to actively go get ones for
minutes.

Nick could yes.

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 1:42 PM <brent.olsen at lp.org> wrote:

> Couldn't Nick just make this an email ballot himself, as that does seem
> the appropriate thing to do considering it was removed from the agenda
> at the last meeting in order to save time, with the idea that it would
> be handled via email ballot...  On the other hand, if it can't get
> enough co-sponsors, how likely is it to pass?
> -Brent
>
>
> On 2019-09-05 10:31, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> > Nick, please consider this my request for agenda time next meeting if
> > there
> > are not sponsors for an email ballot.
> >
> > Either way, this is going to be heard.
> >
> > *In Liberty,*
> >
> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
> > faux
> > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 11:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
> > <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Before I ever agree to put anything to email ballot again I will
> >> insist on
> >> it being sponsored then and there.  When a person agrees to shorten a
> >> meeting, it is absolutely discourteous to not sponsor to at least get
> >> a
> >> vote heard.  No one needs to discuss but to agree to send to email
> >> ballot
> >> and then call having said email ballot is a waste of time is a crappy
> >> thing
> >> to do.
> >>
> >> *In Liberty,*
> >>
> >> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> >> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> >> anyone
> >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
> >> faux
> >> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 9:11 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business <
> >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> As Caryn Ann pointed out and we all discussed at the time, this was
> >>> an
> >>> agenda item from our last meeting so I would hardly consider us
> >>> attempting
> >>> to wrap up a previous agenda item as a waste of time.
> >>>
> >>> To not resolve this discussion would be to guarantee that I never
> >>> vote to
> >>> push anything from a meeting to discuss by email ever again. Count on
> >>> some
> >>> long(er) meetings going forward if this becomes a way for items of
> >>> discussion to be avoided all together by feigning discussion to email
> >>> without actual intention to do so.
> >>>
> >>> Alternatively, I would cosponsor an e-meeting if that is the
> >>> preference of
> >>> the body to handle such things. Something tells me that most would
> >>> prefer
> >>> email instead.
> >>>
> >>> Richard Longstreth
> >>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
> >>> Libertarian National Committee
> >>> richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >>> 931.538.9300
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my Mobile Device
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019, 08:00 Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein at lp.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > I will express again my concern about wasting LNC time on meaningless
> >>> > resolutions and will not co-sponsor, discuss or vote on this matter.
> >>> > ---
> >>> > Sam Goldstein
> >>> > Libertarian National Committee
> >>> > 317-850-0726 Cell
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On 2019-09-05 10:34, John Phillips via Lnc-business wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Sorry it took so long, I was reviewing the language in question.
> >>> >
> >>> > I agree with the concerns, but I also agree with Ms Harlos' on her
> >>> > reasoning on the answer to those concerns.
> >>> >
> >>> > So I will also sponsor
> >>> >
> >>> > John Phillips
> >>> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> >>> > Cell 217-412-5973
> >>> >
> >>> > On Sep 5, 2019 8:55 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business <
> >>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > I still have concerns but since discussion isn't happening without
> >>> > cosponsorship, I will go ahead and cosponsor and would love for those
> >>> with
> >>> > opposition to share their thoughts.
> >>> >
> >>> > Richard Longstreth
> >>> > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
> >>> > Libertarian National Committee
> >>> > richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >>> > 931.538.9300
> >>> >
> >>> > Sent from my Mobile Device
> >>> >
> >>> > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019, 18:45 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> >>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > Yes.  Ms. Adams objected to some of the requirements.  However,
> these
> >>> > are
> >>> > > requirements that are required of citizens (whether or not we agree
> >>> with
> >>> > > them) and do not want to support giving them a path here?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > We can support the path here and oppose those requirements on
> >>> everyone,
> >>> > not
> >>> > > just foreign nationals.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > *In Liberty,*
> >>> > >
> >>> > > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> Syndrome
> >>> > > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> >>> > > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> >>> anyone
> >>> > > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
> social
> >>> > faux
> >>> > > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 11:20 AM John Phillips via Lnc-business <
> >>> > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > > This is the one that some people were concerned about some of the
> >>> bill
> >>> > > > language?
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > John Phillips
> >>> > > > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> >>> > > > Cell 217-412-5973
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > On Sep 2, 2019 11:30 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> >>> > > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Bumpity.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > *  In Liberty,*
> >>> > > > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> >>> Syndrome
> >>> > > > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> >>> > > > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> >>> > anyone
> >>> > > > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
> social
> >>> > faux
> >>> > > > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me
> >>> know.
> >>> > *
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 8:03 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <
> >>> > > carynannharlos at gmail.com>
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > > As deferred from the last meeting to be handled by email
> ballot, I
> >>> > seek
> >>> > > > > co-sponsors for the following resolution:
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > Resolved, until such time that the immigration process in the
> >>> United
> >>> > > > > States of America acknowledges the human right of peaceful
> people
> >>> to
> >>> > > > move
> >>> > > > > freely across national borders,  the Libertarian National
> >>> Committee
> >>> > > > > supports the passage of the American Dream and Promise Act by
> the
> >>> US
> >>> > > > House
> >>> > > > > and urges the US Senate to pass same.
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > Attached is the information also that is from the One Note from
> >>> last
> >>> > > > > meeting.
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > Also here is the link from congress.gov:
> >>> > > > > https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/6
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > *  In Liberty,*
> >>> > > > > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> >>> > Syndrome
> >>> > > > > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> >>> > > > > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.
> If
> >>> > anyone
> >>> > > > > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
> >>> social
> >>> > > > faux
> >>> > > > > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me
> >>> > know.
> >>> > > *
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>
>
> --

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *