[Lnc-business] Resolution supporting Dream and Promise Act - request for co-sponsors

[Sam Goldstein]

Exactly my point, Dr. Olsen!

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Sam Goldstein
Libertarian National Committee
317-850-0726 Cell

On 2019-09-05 15:42, brent.olsen--- via Lnc-business wrote:
> Couldn't Nick just make this an email ballot himself, as that does
> seem the appropriate thing to do considering it was removed from the
> agenda at the last meeting in order to save time, with the idea that
> it would be handled via email ballot...  On the other hand, if it
> can't get enough co-sponsors, how likely is it to pass?
> -Brent
> 
> 
> On 2019-09-05 10:31, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>> Nick, please consider this my request for agenda time next meeting if 
>> there
>> are not sponsors for an email ballot.
>> 
>> Either way, this is going to be heard.
>> 
>> *In Liberty,*
>> 
>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If 
>> anyone
>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social 
>> faux
>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 11:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos 
>> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Before I ever agree to put anything to email ballot again I will 
>>> insist on
>>> it being sponsored then and there.  When a person agrees to shorten a
>>> meeting, it is absolutely discourteous to not sponsor to at least get 
>>> a
>>> vote heard.  No one needs to discuss but to agree to send to email 
>>> ballot
>>> and then call having said email ballot is a waste of time is a crappy 
>>> thing
>>> to do.
>>> 
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> 
>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's 
>>> Syndrome
>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If 
>>> anyone
>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social 
>>> faux
>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 9:11 AM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business <
>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> As Caryn Ann pointed out and we all discussed at the time, this was 
>>>> an
>>>> agenda item from our last meeting so I would hardly consider us 
>>>> attempting
>>>> to wrap up a previous agenda item as a waste of time.
>>>> 
>>>> To not resolve this discussion would be to guarantee that I never 
>>>> vote to
>>>> push anything from a meeting to discuss by email ever again. Count 
>>>> on some
>>>> long(er) meetings going forward if this becomes a way for items of
>>>> discussion to be avoided all together by feigning discussion to 
>>>> email
>>>> without actual intention to do so.
>>>> 
>>>> Alternatively, I would cosponsor an e-meeting if that is the 
>>>> preference of
>>>> the body to handle such things. Something tells me that most would 
>>>> prefer
>>>> email instead.
>>>> 
>>>> Richard Longstreth
>>>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>> richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>>> 931.538.9300
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my Mobile Device
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019, 08:00 Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein at lp.org> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> > I will express again my concern about wasting LNC time on meaningless
>>>> > resolutions and will not co-sponsor, discuss or vote on this matter.
>>>> > ---
>>>> > Sam Goldstein
>>>> > Libertarian National Committee
>>>> > 317-850-0726 Cell
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On 2019-09-05 10:34, John Phillips via Lnc-business wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Sorry it took so long, I was reviewing the language in question.
>>>> >
>>>> > I agree with the concerns, but I also agree with Ms Harlos' on her
>>>> > reasoning on the answer to those concerns.
>>>> >
>>>> > So I will also sponsor
>>>> >
>>>> > John Phillips
>>>> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>> > Cell 217-412-5973
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sep 5, 2019 8:55 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business <
>>>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I still have concerns but since discussion isn't happening without
>>>> > cosponsorship, I will go ahead and cosponsor and would love for those
>>>> with
>>>> > opposition to share their thoughts.
>>>> >
>>>> > Richard Longstreth
>>>> > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
>>>> > Libertarian National Committee
>>>> > richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>>> > 931.538.9300
>>>> >
>>>> > Sent from my Mobile Device
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019, 18:45 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>>>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Yes.  Ms. Adams objected to some of the requirements.  However, these
>>>> > are
>>>> > > requirements that are required of citizens (whether or not we agree
>>>> with
>>>> > > them) and do not want to support giving them a path here?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > We can support the path here and oppose those requirements on
>>>> everyone,
>>>> > not
>>>> > > just foreign nationals.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > *In Liberty,*
>>>> > >
>>>> > > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>>>> > > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>>> > > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
>>>> anyone
>>>> > > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
>>>> > faux
>>>> > > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 11:20 AM John Phillips via Lnc-business <
>>>> > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > This is the one that some people were concerned about some of the
>>>> bill
>>>> > > > language?
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > John Phillips
>>>> > > > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>>>> > > > Cell 217-412-5973
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > On Sep 2, 2019 11:30 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>>>> > > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Bumpity.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > *  In Liberty,*
>>>> > > > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
>>>> Syndrome
>>>> > > > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>>> > > > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
>>>> > anyone
>>>> > > > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
>>>> > faux
>>>> > > > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me
>>>> know.
>>>> > *
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 8:03 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>> > > carynannharlos at gmail.com>
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > > As deferred from the last meeting to be handled by email ballot, I
>>>> > seek
>>>> > > > > co-sponsors for the following resolution:
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > Resolved, until such time that the immigration process in the
>>>> United
>>>> > > > > States of America acknowledges the human right of peaceful people
>>>> to
>>>> > > > move
>>>> > > > > freely across national borders,  the Libertarian National
>>>> Committee
>>>> > > > > supports the passage of the American Dream and Promise Act by the
>>>> US
>>>> > > > House
>>>> > > > > and urges the US Senate to pass same.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > Attached is the information also that is from the One Note from
>>>> last
>>>> > > > > meeting.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > Also here is the link from congress.gov:
>>>> > > > > https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/6
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > *  In Liberty,*
>>>> > > > > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
>>>> > Syndrome
>>>> > > > > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>>> > > > > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
>>>> > anyone
>>>> > > > > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
>>>> social
>>>> > > > faux
>>>> > > > > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me
>>>> > know.
>>>> > > *
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> 
>>>