[Lnc-business] Fwd: LNC Contact Form - re: [ Lnc-business] Primaries

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

Mr Bishop-Henchman I did not mean you.  Please understand I had private
discussions with Mr Fishman that give me insight into the persuasive intent.

But it is indisputable that NO negatives were brought up in the
“suggestion” and I have a problem with that.

And as I warned Mr Fishman, there are a lot of irritated people in region
1.  He maybe very familiar with the eastern seaboard, but I know the
mountain west and I spent too long healing the relationships with national
to have us step in toes like that.

Plus why we so up in the affiliates’ business?  We shouldn’t be.

Dog. Tail.  We are the latter not the former.

I have some other issues that I’m not ready to bring up to the list.  If
you’d like to know what they are, let’s talk.  Honestly you’ve ignored my
many collaboration overtures in the past which is part of the reason I feel
we are a dysfunctional body.  If I’ve offended you in some way, let’s talk
it out.  But I am quite frankly stung by the prior cold shoulders.

-Caryn Ann

-Caryn

On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 1:03 PM Joe Bishop-Henchman <
joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org> wrote:

> I, at least, am not dismissive of the point you raised. I took the time
> to re-read what Dan's email said. I went and pulled the plank that you
> said was violated by asking state chairs if they are holding primaries.
> Not quite 20 emails were exchanged on the topic, and I read them all.
> Ultimately I wasn't persuaded, and said so.
>
> Mr. Perry addressed his question to Mr. Olsen, but I'll just say I've
> seen states hold primary elections before without his listed parade of
> horribles coming to pass. So, disagreeing with Ms. Harlos, I do not
> think Mr. Perry is correct when he says all things may happen if states
> hold primaries.
>
> The only point I'll flag is Mr. Perry and I may have a definitional
> difference over "ridiculously high standards" for presidential
> candidates. The Democrats for instance, to participate in their first
> debate, required either (1) at least 1% support in three polls either
> nationally or in IA/NH/NV/SC, or (2) donations from 65,000 unique
> donors, including at least 200 donors in 20 states each. That's a very
> low threshold for the Democrats - they've since raised the bar
> considerably for subsequent debates - but I would argue would be a
> ridiculously high standard for us. However, filing FEC reports showing
> active fundraising, getting media coverage, having more than a skeleton
> staff, having a website, and ultimately having some demonstrated support
> from the delegates who will make the nomination decision - those I
> wouldn't consider ridiculously high.
>
> In fact, I would benefit from any tried-and-true criteria that anyone is
> aware of, for DC's presidential preference thing we're starting to plan.
>
> JBH
>
> ------------
> Joe Bishop-Henchman
> LNC Member (At-Large)
> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>
> On 2019-09-28 14:19, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> > Darryl is right.  And I’m still stewing on that state chairs email.
> > And for anyone saying it wasn’t salting the soup in favour then
> > where was the discussion if the tax theft?
> >
> > Here is the litmus for me.  If that communication had to go through
> > APRC I don’t think it would have passed.
> >
> > I’m concerned that advance concerns about controversy are dismissed.
> >  If an LNC member expresses concern it should be brought to the LNC.
> >
> > I’ll say it again.  The officers are kept in the dark and only Nick
> > and Dan know what’s going on.  I seriously doubt that’s what the
> > delegates think is the practice.  There is zero communication from the
> > chair outside of meetings if you do t count purposeful social media
> > planned dramas.
> >
> > This is not functional.  And we are NOT just another political party.
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 11:41 AM Joe Bishop-Henchman via Lnc-business
> > <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Forwarded as requested.
> >>
> >> JBH
> >>
> >> ------------
> >> Joe Bishop-Henchman
> >> LNC Member (At-Large)
> >> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
> >> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837 [1]
> >>
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> Subject: LNC Contact Form - re: [Lnc-business] Primaries
> >> Date: 2019-09-28 13:26
> >> From: Libertarian Party <web at lp.org>
> >> Reply-To: darryl at darrylwperry.com
> >>
> >> LNC Contact Form - re: [Lnc-business] Primaries
> >>
> >> CONTACT LNC MEMBERS:
> >>
> >> Contact all LNC members
> >>
> >> Your Information
> >>
> >> SUBJECT
> >>
> >> re: [Lnc-business] Primaries
> >>
> >> AFFILIATE
> >>
> >> LPNH
> >>
> >> NAME
> >>
> >> Darryl Perry
> >>
> >> EMAIL
> >>
> >> darryl at darrylwperry.com
> >>
> >> STATE
> >>
> >> New Hampshire
> >>
> >> ADDRESS
> >>
> >> United States
> >> Map It [1]
> >>
> >> MESSAGE
> >>
> >> In response to Vent Olsen's email to the LNC list saying the LP
> >> should
> >> act like a "real political party"; I have to wonder if he thinks:
> >> the
> >> LNC should set ridiculously high standards for recognizing
> >> Presidential
> >> candidates, only promote those deemed to be front-runners,
> >> discourage
> >> grassroots activism/involvement in the party, find a way to have
> >> taxpayers fund our conventions, and allow people who aren't members
> >> of
> >> the party to have input on who we run as candidates?
> >>
> >> PS
> >> Of states that have primary elections for partisan office, 19 allow
> >> parties to opt-out of having a taxpayer-funded primary.
> >>
> >> PPS
> >> Someone please make sure my comments are addressed in the LNC
> >> Discussion
> >> list, as I want this to be addressed in a public manner. Thank you.
> >>
> >> EMAIL CONFIRMATION
> >>
> >> * I want to receive email communication from the Libertarian
> >> Party.
> >>
> >> Links:
> >> ------
> >> [1] http://maps.google.com/maps?q=United+States
> >  --
> >
> > IN LIBERTY,
> >
> > __
> >
> > _ PERSONAL NOTE:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> > anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
> > social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _
> >
> >
> >
> > Links:
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> > [1] http://www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>
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*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *