[Lnc-business] Fwd: Re: Colorado joint fundraising efforts.

[Joe Bishop-Henchman]

Do you have handy the list of states that are FEC filers and those that 
are not?

JBH

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Joe Bishop-Henchman
LNC Member (At-Large)
joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
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On 2019-10-16 04:04, Daniel Fishman via Lnc-business wrote:
> ok, password is still in place. I will not remove the password from the
> page without the LNC's consent. I will wait till explicit consent comes
> through this thread. Colorado has resources poised to increase 
> membership.
> And it should be pointed out that every state can increase membership 
> to be
> counted towards delegate count right now using the traditional 
> lp.org/join
> link.
> 
> 
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> Daniel Fishman
> Executive Director
> The Libertarian Party
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> 
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 1:49 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> 
>> EVH is also right - this is part of my larger complaint of the LNC 
>> being
>> kept in the dark.  I was utterly surprised to see this come through 
>> APRC
>> and the first time an LNC member hears of something like this should 
>> not be
>> in APRC or when it goes public.  We cannot possibly keep our duties if 
>> we
>> are kept in the dark.
>> 
>> And don't anyone assume well at least the other officers know.  No 
>> they
>> don't.
>> 
>> *In Liberty,*
>> 
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>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If 
>> anyone
>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social 
>> faux
>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 11:44 PM Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> 
>> > Forwarded to list.
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Elizabeth Van Horn
>> >
>> > -------- Original Message --------
>> >
>> >                 SUBJECT:
>> >                 Re: Colorado joint fundraising efforts.
>> >
>> >                 DATE:
>> >                 2019-10-16 01:11
>> >
>> >                 FROM:
>> >                 Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>
>> >
>> >                 TO:
>> >                 John Phillips <john.phillips at lp.org>
>> >
>> >                 CC:
>> >                 Alicia Mattson <alicia.mattson at lp.org>, Dan Fishman
>> > <dan.fishman at lphq.org>, LNC Gsuite Migration <lnctest at lphq.org>, Jess
>> > Mears <jess at lphq.org>
>> >
>> > John,
>> >
>> > I'm asking questions about how this has been handled.  Which is what any
>> > LNC can, and should, be doing.  I'd appreciate you not characterizing a
>> > legitimate concern as "kvetch".
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Elizabeth Van Horn
>> > LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>> >
>> > On 2019-10-16 01:04, John Phillips wrote:
>> >
>> > > Valid objection if there is a policy - and the one about timing and
>> > informing other affiliates is as well.
>> > >
>> > > However, I did know that they were looking for an answer, and knew what
>> > the issue was, and informed my region of both the FEC issues, and another
>> > potential work around as soon as the possibility was mentioned. I would
>> > assume that was how CO knew to work on it.
>> > >
>> > > I also know that if someone brings a potential solution to an issue we
>> > have together I would try to work out the bugs with them before I started
>> > advertising it. Same as I do with any new product or service I offer in
>> > business. Same as we do/did with the CRM actually.
>> > >
>> > > We did ask them for a closer look EVH, that is how they came up with
>> the
>> > work around.  I'm not going to kvetch about someone coming up with a
>> > solution to a problem we asked them to.
>> > >
>> > > John Phillips
>> > > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>> > > Cell 217-412-5973
>> > >
>> > > On Oct 15, 2019 11:52 PM, Alicia Mattson <alicia.mattson at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Policy Manual section 3.03.1, titled "Affiliate Relationships" requires
>> > that, "Special agreements with states require the approval of the LNC."
>> > >
>> > > Part of the reason for that is to have even-handed treatment of all
>> > affiliates.
>> > >
>> > > -Alicia
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 9:40 PM Alicia Mattson <alicia.mattson at lp.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Also, does that mean that the LNC will be eating the full amount of the
>> > credit card processing fees for the state's portion of the proceeds?  I
>> > would object to us underwriting an affiliate's fundraising drive in that
>> > manner.
>> > >
>> > > -Alicia
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 9:37 PM Alicia Mattson <alicia.mattson at lp.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > There are some political ramifications to rolling this out for only one
>> > state with only a few days left before the delegate allocation deadline.
>> > Granted CO is the state that is arranging the phone effort to boost their
>> > memberships, but for the LNC to be offering help to one state at this
>> > last-minute-before-the-deadline is gonna look a bit unfair to other state
>> > affiliates competing for the same delegate allocations.
>> > >
>> > > -Alicia
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 3:33 PM Daniel Fishman <dan.fishman at lphq.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Please visit https://www.lp.org/colorado-national-combined-membership/
>> > >
>> > > Password is (Not shown on forwarded)
>> > >
>> > > History behind this.  A few months ago Jess Mears held a webinar with
>> > state and county membership directors and invited me to address questions
>> > about the possibility of a joint membership form, which had come up in a
>> > previous conversation.
>> > >
>> > > I had prior to the meeting consulted with Robert Kraus about the FEC
>> > implications and we agreed it could be done with states that are FEC
>> > filers.  I discussed this in the Membership Directors meeting, and
>> > described essentially the webpage listed above.  There was some interest
>> > among the participants.
>> > >
>> > > Fast forward to last week and Colorado approached me with a plan.  They
>> > are hiring a telemarketer to call all the registered Libertarians in
>> > Colorado and are going to get them to become members at national as well
>> as
>> > make a donation to LPCO.
>> > >
>> > > The page has cleared APRC and is explicitly approved by the LPCO chair.
>> > It has been suggested I notify the LNC of this plan and ask if there are
>> > strenuous objections to making this publicly available.  LPCO has a
>> > communication going out tomorrow, and they would like to advertise this
>> > page.
>> > >
>> > > To anticipate other questions, we can make a page like this available
>> to
>> > any state that is a FEC filers.  I would need a formal request from the
>> > state chair to proceed.
>> > >
>> > > Your reply is appreciated.
>> > >
>> > > Dan
>> > >
>> > > Dan Fishman, Executive Director,  Libertarian Party
>> > >
>> > > --
>> >
>>